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  1. This is a hobby goddamn it!!!

    I shake my head daily at the lengths some go to in this hobby. I've had girlfriends that were knee deep into the culture and I just couldn't take it. I like to live life, not life out of tupperware. Huge difference in being healthy and being in shape per industry standards. I'd argue the...
  2. The New Product Release Thread

    Not sure on the pre, but likely 2. We're really struggling on flavor here. It's such a huge formula with so many ingredients, it's hard. We have a high standard and I hate to compromise on it. We're one of the only companies that will be Prop 65 compliant with our pre (when it comes to full...
  3. Flavored EAA's

    Taste is insanely objective, one of the hardest parts of flavoring a product. We have a dozen flavors in flag ship. Mango/BlueRaz are typically hit the spot for most people. I like the black cherry in perform, but default to mango quite a bit. We'll have peak02 bulk out in primaforce in 10...
  4. Flavored EAA's

    I've been unable to find data showing issues as long as there is balance. Often times NA intake is through the roof with no potassium offset. I'll have to go through my notes which are buried somewhere. Coming off a holiday weekend, may take a few days.
  5. The New Product Release Thread

    Huge F up on my part. Doing flavor sample tasting of the pre today, drank 6 samples (1-2oz each). Went into a meeting and someone handed me a monster. Wasn't thinking about prior intake. Everyone in the office hates me now.
  6. Flavored EAA's

    Some companies do honest labeling. Example, if you say you have 5g of BCAA peptide, you actually don't have 5g of bcaa's. You have around 2-2.5g because of the peptide. The yield for sodium/potassium is fractional, hence the higher number yielding 230/190. It's almost impossible to find...
  7. The New Product Release Thread

    AGPC is a great ingredient, but so expensive it's rarely cost effective.
  8. Peak APT vs PEak 02...your experiences and which one you prefer...

    AGPC is a good ingredient, just very expensive. Patent holders love their margin
  9. Xtend Perform one month run

    Freaking awesome
  10. The New Product Release Thread

    Full disclosure on label.
  11. Peak APT vs PEak 02...your experiences and which one you prefer...

    Cordyceps isn't new, you're right. CS-4 has data showing none of it is actually cordyceps. The question with mushrooms is what are the drivers for the results. Peak02 has data on it, specific to that formula.
  12. The New Product Release Thread

    Our 4 new xtend flavors are the best we've done. We'll roll 1 out per month. The pre, taste won't be it's strong point, over 20g of ingredients lol
  13. The New Product Release Thread

    The pre has grown, it's more than 10 ingredients now lol. My accounting team hates me right now.
  14. Peak APT vs PEak 02...your experiences and which one you prefer...

    I should clarify my comments on Peak ATP. Given the cost, we didn't see it as worth the cost. Not that it had zero value, but against the cost, didn't make it commercially viable. Which is why companies have struggled to implement it into products. It has been around for over a decade. I...
  15. Peak APT vs PEak 02...your experiences and which one you prefer...

    Invalid Link Removed Price plow just did a big article on it
  16. Peak APT vs PEak 02...your experiences and which one you prefer...

    I don't recall exact pricing, but 120g, would be around 19.99 to consumers. The study on peak02 used 4g per day. More studies are being done now at lower dosing. There are more questions than answers on mushrooms as there are many unknown factors. I prefer blends due to BG content. I use it...
  17. Peak APT vs PEak 02...your experiences and which one you prefer...

    We will have Peak02 in bulk via primaforce in 7-10 days, you can try for yourself. We played around with peak atp for awhile and never saw much from it in testing. We tested lots of people at VERY high doses and were not impressed at all.
  18. NP Bulk Powders... What do you want to see??

    2 weeks away in primaforce
  19. The New Product Release Thread

    Clinical dosing will be the word everyone gets sued for in the next 24 months.
  20. The New Product Release Thread

    Between Scivation and Primaforce there will be around a dozen releases between September-Feb. New pre is coming around end of year, new flavors of xtend, reworked xtend free that is way better, new version of GO along with new flavors, new perform flavors, flexatril in smaller tabs with better...
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