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  1. So, I thought id start at the safer side of steroids (oral)

    yes, but if they where both new to the game, the one doing it natural would build muscle that will stick if he has to take some time off the gym and cycles... but if one cycles several times yearly while the other goes natural.. he will offcourse be left in the dust... But one cycle now, will...

  2. So, I thought id start at the safer side of steroids (oral)

    I`d have you gain atleast 10lbs naturally in 2 months if I trained you, and showeled food and good supps down your throat... I put 15lbs on a friend in 3 months....and he had trained for 10 years prior,, Spend this year eating big and training heavy, then diet down a bit next spring... if your...

  3. So, I thought id start at the safer side of steroids (oral)

    2 months...2 MONTHS! totally useless to run anything... you`ll just blow up a bit, then shrink back... and probably gain even slower later without. You need a foundation to really appraciate this stuff... You`ll get just as good results from creatine... use mono, regular loading for a week...

  4. So, I thought id start at the safer side of steroids (oral)

    that will take some time and use.... but you got it wrong, orals are the worst.. everyone more or less agrees on that here, if you want to do it safe, you either dont use them(like me) or you go for plain test injections... few sides besides the suppression of hpta over time (ball shrink)...

  5. PMAG: is a SERM needed, or just PCT?

    If you can get one, i agree, better to be safe. Also, its a drag going to the doc complaining about problems with either gyno, libido or both... Just to maybe get a serm then...

  6. PMAG: is a SERM needed, or just PCT?

    Btw... If you get tender puffy or leaky nipples, and do bloodwork, I ll swear they wil show you have high estradiol...I have checked 3 times...the more they can be felt, the higher estradiol levels.. i can use daa for one week, i feel really alpha and strong, one more week, and strengh and...

  7. PMAG: is a SERM needed, or just PCT?

    From what i experienced my one and only havoc cycle, but also from reading here... During, after all depends on your body and what stuff you are using. With epi, nothing until after pct with nolva ... But i had existing minor gyno, not visible only a small penny sized flat gland... They swelled...

  8. PMAG: is a SERM needed, or just PCT?

    Dunno. I know people who have run trenazone at 1 ml for 4 weeks, with no loss of libido or gyno issues, and just did otc pct. One did daa plus erase, one novedex xt with anatropin... The last one is in pct still, he gained like 7lbs on trenazone, and continues to gain a bit with that pct... so...

  9. It's here....ANDROENHANCE GEL

    pct for this? Looks interrresting..

  10. Best OTC test booster

    unfortunatly the second was a spur of the moment test my doc wanted to see if my estrogen where normal now, he likes to take time between them. He just called and wanted me to test ( maybe he thinks i use roids, which I have not before or after last years havoc test, to get into my summer shape...

  11. Best OTC test booster

    I took bloods on daa plus erase.. measures in nmol. dunno what they are in american standard... could perhaps find a converter. last fall total testosterone was 27(range 8-35) and estradiol high at 18 (0,5-14) different lab this time, testo 17(range 10-40) and estradiol 10 (0,05-11) that on daa...

  12. Prohormone vs. Injectable

    I did havoc with nolva pct last year, boodwork just a few days after last 10mg nolva. Liver values where perfect... I even had a few drinks during the end of pct. Nolva is a drug they put people on for years, less toxic than ibuprofen. Btw. High doses of painkillers will show up on liver...

  13. Am i overtraining? (full routine)

    Main thing is to vary exercises reps,sets, intensity...spilts or amount of days, not that important. Just stay away from the extrme hit things...i spent years not growing from mentzer brainwashing. I had my best gains (natural...before my one month of havoc and pct, that lead to nothing other...

  14. Am i overtraining? (full routine)

    I like this one, its not very many people who it, but it does wonders for both strength and arms. chest- triceps. ( closegrip bench and or dips should be on this day) Back-biceps. (close reversegrip pulldowns, and some machine work for biceps, more pump related strict work for biceps, heavy and...

  15. activate xtreme + erase pro = gyno?

    It s not very visible, just coin sized flatish glands... They where however visible when they first arrived, swollen and very painful. Nolva will take them down from a swollen state, but not remove the glands... But even at 6-7% bodyfat, they where not visible like one see in some bb pics...

  16. activate xtreme + erase pro = gyno?

    I took bloodwork right after havoc (nolva pct) last year. Ranges testosterone 10-40 , estradiol 0,5-14 , free test 3-14 uk ranges..nmol. Results after pct : test 27, estradiol 24, free test 7..Everything else midrange. Livervalues perfect etc.. Nipples where a bit tender and i could press out...

  17. Any recommendations for pre workout supps? Dont say Jack3D

    After not using craze for a week... I get morning wood hardness even jerking off 6-8 times a day, and come easy and hard. Today morning wood was solid as steel and i considered peeing while doing handstands lol. So i figured, lets try the craze again. Incredible workout, kept it short to see if...

  18. Any recommendations for pre workout supps? Dont say Jack3D

    vasotropin actually is not half bad... if you can time it with a good carb meal 1 hour plus before workouts. Seems to work well the times I workout late, 1-2 hours after a regular family dinner.. When stims won`t do jack due to too much food in the system.. Took 4 pills along with a pasta dish...

  19. Triazole / Activate Extreme Log

    Anti estrogen supps seam to have a bigger impact on those with high estrogen, like me. Pes erase worked insanly good. Leaner , stronger very quickly..Hate being off..

  20. DS Craze Lawsuit and FDA Action

    Tried a sample of craze, it was the most amazing energy and pump I ve had. It even beat anadrol for preworkout! I did not crash, and slept as a baby a few hours later...but the level of effect with craze makes me kinda wonder...wtf. Did they put in this to make i so much better than everything...
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