Trenazone is the shiznit...my friend did a 3,5 week, gained 7lbs, not much, but pct is now finished, just da old novedex xt and anatropin..and some on zma. Libido was good the entire time, and during pct. Lethargy was a biatch though. He is now up total 9lbs... No loss, no problems, otc pct...