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  1. Bulking- Non methyl's that don't convert to estrogen?

    ^ So what would you suggest on the dosing of tr3st for four weeks?
  2. Bulking- Non methyl's that don't convert to estrogen?

    Just checked the black lion research site. "Acts as a 5-alpha reductase inhibitor" Looks like I'll stay away from it. So back to square one again..... I could run a low dose of epitren or something tren based alongside with lots of prolactrone and likely be fine. Trying to keep the liver...
  3. Bulking- Non methyl's that don't convert to estrogen?

    Epiandro converts to DHT. Formeron inhibts DHT formation and activity. Am I wrong with this? I'm still new, this is just what I'm understanding from reading up on the compounds.
  4. Bulking- Non methyl's that don't convert to estrogen?

    I wasn't going to run the formeron on cycle since it would likely cancel out the epiandro, which has dht conversion.
  5. Bulking- Non methyl's that don't convert to estrogen?

    The halo is a 6 week run, I'm just introducing a new compound for the last 4 weeks. Trest can cause estro sides though, correct?
  6. Bulking- Non methyl's that don't convert to estrogen?

    Due to the mild nature of halo/epiandro, what else should I toss in then? I'm not set on the msten, it just seemed like the best option with the lowest estrogen related sides for bulking. Understandable on the 12lb LBM. I'm hoping to shoot up about 20lbs total, which shouldn't be too...
  7. Bulking- Non methyl's that don't convert to estrogen?

    Plan on gaining a hell of a lot more than 12lbs due to being a first cycle and high calories. Don't really care if I gain some fat along with it, I can just cut later. Trying to use this as an opportunity to gain as much strength/size as I can. Also, how would formeron be in PCT as opposed to...
  8. Bulking- Non methyl's that don't convert to estrogen?

    I'm the complete opposite. I'd rather sacrifice some gains to make sure I recover properly in good health.
  9. Bulking- Non methyl's that don't convert to estrogen?

    Obviously not going to follow it haha. Trying to stay away from injections.
  10. Bulking- Non methyl's that don't convert to estrogen?

    Wise words. So keep the cycle as is, add in 20mg msten for 4 weeks, or add in 4 caps of 1andro rx for 4 weeks?
  11. Bulking- Non methyl's that don't convert to estrogen?

    I don't have the links with me (on phone), but you can just google nolva gyno reduction. When taken for an extended period of time it has been shown to shrink the gyno. If it doesn't work, ralox seems to be the next best bet. I've had this for the past 15 years. Should I just do a tr3n cycle...
  12. Bulking- Non methyl's that don't convert to estrogen?

    I've seen studies that show nolva, letro, and ralox for extended periods of 2+months can shrink it. Lots of people have had positive results with this too. Figure that it can't hurt. EDIT: Obviously not all of them... Just sticking with one of them.
  13. Bulking- Non methyl's that don't convert to estrogen?

    Cycle support Nolva 20mg Erase Will introduce DAA a couple weeks in as well.
  14. Bulking- Non methyl's that don't convert to estrogen?

    Well, that's everyone's ideal goal, isnt it....
  15. Bulking- Non methyl's that don't convert to estrogen?

    A bit over a week. Trying to stay away from any prolactin or estrogen products for that very reason. Epiandro converts to dht, which is shown to shrink gyno. Halo doesn't have any direct effect on it either from my understanding. I'm also going to be running nolva for an extended period to kill...
  16. Bulking- Non methyl's that don't convert to estrogen?

    Yes, first cycle. Trying to maximize what I can now so I don't run continuous cycles in the future. Trying to do a "one and done," just to take my physique and strength a bit further.
  17. Bulking- Non methyl's that don't convert to estrogen?

    I'm under the impression that at 20mg it is. I could be wrong though. Should I just run tr3n for the four weeks and add in an anti prolactin?
  18. Bulking- Non methyl's that don't convert to estrogen?

    20mg msten, 75mg halo
  19. Bulking- Non methyl's that don't convert to estrogen?

    Never said it would make everything ok. Considering that I'm only going to be running 3 caps halo and 2 caps msten, both of which are fairly mild, toxicity levels shouldn't be anything to be concerned with as long as I up the cycle support and keep water intake high. At least I think this is...
  20. Bulking- Non methyl's that don't convert to estrogen?

    Thanks for the reply. I've been leaning towards msten at 20mg for four weeks. I'll just up the liver support a bit.
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