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  1. Non Hormonal or Very Mild Pro Hormone

    Actually the opposite is bro science. How is 300g of protein going to return more gains? It seems those callories would be better spent on carbs.

  2. Stalled progress?

    I wasn't recommending. I told him but instead of parroting other post and shoving stuff down his throat I told him. OTC is better than nothing. I said I want a low suppressive hormone for next cycle. I knew what dmz was.

  3. Non Hormonal or Very Mild Pro Hormone

    Yeah your right. I really mean he was wasting his time by not eating for 2 years. He completely wasted his Time and he could be very large if e had been doing it right for that time. First 8 months of lifting I went from 140-190 pounds.

  4. Non Hormonal or Very Mild Pro Hormone

    I'm saying as long as you hit your callories and macros and 160g protein at the least you will be fine. Eating healthy isn't really going to improve body composition. Also don't listen to people saying eat like 250-300g of protein. It's stupid, doesn't do anything extra and if I am correct 25%...

  5. Stalled progress?

    So should I up my dmz dosage for this run to 48 mg or keep it the same? Will I just get more sides and no extra gains if I increase?

  6. Non Hormonal or Very Mild Pro Hormone

    No x gels. I've seen studies where it doesn't do anything. It's placebo. Also eating well doesn't do anything exept for maybe health. Don't be afraid of fats. I eat 110+ g of fat a day at 3.9k Cals. Anabeta eliete I would try. Sounds good but I rather buy the dmz with pct.

  7. Non Hormonal or Very Mild Pro Hormone

    Op, don't waste money on non hormonal supps exept creatine, protein in case you don't hit 150-180 g of protein in a day, and some vitamins like six star from Walmart to save money. Also some fish oil caps even tho the six star pack has some fish oil in it.

  8. Non Hormonal or Very Mild Pro Hormone

    Sounds like op is to immature to use anabolics even if he was 25+. Just started eating to gain mass? So you wasted 2 years of traning for no reason? Also op, if your dead set on it I've heard havoc is good, and also you could try xtreme dmz that comes with OTC pct. I would also get some hawthorn...

  9. Stalled progress?

    Well the bottle is 90 caps of 16 mg each so 2 bottles aren't needed. Also what's a non methyl ph that will produce dry gains and minimal shutdown. I want to run another cycle again but I fear for my liver health and recovery health. I rather not use SERMS so that's why I need a low suppressive...

  10. Stalled progress?

    ive been eating 3900k Cals. I might up it to 4000k. Also I do a ppl with 1-5 reps on the compounds and 8-10 reps on the iso. For example push would be like bench 1-5 dips 1-5 db flies 8-10 tricep push downs 8-10. Same idea for pull and for legs I just do squats and deadlifts 1-5 and do military...

  11. Stalled progress?

    1-5 reps on compound exercises 10 reps on isolation. A good strength base? What do you want me to say?

  12. Stalled progress?

    I've been taking xtreme dmz for 3 weeks now at 32mg per day and the first 2 weeks I went from 183 to 198 and my bench max went up 20 pounds or so and now i can't seem to increase it much more and my weight isint going up anymore. (Just started deadlifts and squats again due to injury so we will...

  13. Part way through dmz cycle

    yeah I knew a lot was water. Also, can I go 6 weeks on with dmz? Should I just quit at 4 and run the last 2 weeks after pct?

  14. Part way through dmz cycle

    So I'm about 2 weeks in on my dmz cycle and my strength is coming good and I've gained 10 pounds but for some reason it's not even noticeable... It's almost like I haven't gained anything. I weigh 195 but just look very thick. Is it my around 20 bodyfat that is hiding this 10 pounds?

  15. 2 week cycle

    I don't want to run a long cycle. I want a fast recovery and don't want to deal with getting a SERM. Seems like SERMS side effects would be worse than a 2 week cycle itself.

  16. 2 week cycle

    Because this stuff was cheap and easy to get. I don't even plan on getting into this stuff. I got it for a steal and decided to run it as safely as I could. I also need to hit my strength before I cut and I also imagine bulking with it would be better.

  17. 2 week cycle

    Sup guys, I wanted to know what you guys thought about this. If I used some dmz for 2 weeks and did a 3-4 week pct with some off time then did another 2 weeker. Also would I want to do 32 mg of dmz a day or 48 mg? Would this make my recovery faster and I would keep more gains without a SERM...

  18. Xtreme dmz and xtreme pct

    Would it be possible to run 3 caps for the first 1-2 weeks then drop down to 2 for a week then start pct and take 1 cap and keep going down and down? In my head it seems that should help but you all know how my head seems to be hard. Haha

  19. Xtreme dmz and xtreme pct

    What happened when you didn't run a SERM?

  20. Xtreme dmz and xtreme pct

    I can't get a SERM because of various issues. I have enough erase to hold me over if I need it. I guess I'll have to take 2 caps daily. And about me not keeping gains without serm, is this 100% true? I know serms are important but an AIs are going to have to cut it. I'm sorry for all the...
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