Will almost certainly do it. It's either than or kickstart with dbol, and I don't really want to order more gear (it's fuarking stressful).
Interesting to find out if you start seeing gains in the first couple weeks, rather than just feeling like you're on.
Taper down the Clomid. 50/50/25/25 or something like that. Don't go 50 straight though and then dump it.
May also want to consider running Nolva either with or instead of Clomid. Clomid is the one with the common emotional sides. If you're going to run it, might as well run the Nolva alongside...
Which site do you find more comfortable, btw?
I'm seriously considering a front load. If I run 3 vials straight through it'd be 18 weeks, which is too long. Might as well use the extra up front I guess.
Looks like we're both about the same age and size, running almost identical first cycles.
Interested to see what people suggest with the Adex. Especially during the dbol kickstart.
Question is in regards to a real 14-16 week AAS cycle. But would like to find the possible kickstart without the stress of ordering more AAS.
Goal is simply to get the most out of the run. Week 12 or 13 will be my next powerlifting meet. Would like to have 12 or 13 full weeks of strength gains...
I'm not saying ~450 is a great number for someone your age. I'm just saying its way higher than docs generally consider a problem.
Could always hop on something like 100mg/week of test and see if you suddenly feel a million times better I imagine.
Fair enough. I realize some people don't have good experiences with it.
It does definitely hurt my sex drive and performance. Which is why I'll probably only use it on cycle from now on (when there is so much T that it shouldn't matter anyway).
Know most people use dbol. I want to save that for down the road some.
Is there a milder compound that would serve as a good 4-week kickstart? Maybe Msten or Trest?
Will probably run it without one, but am just weighing options.
I know people talk about DHT being important for strength, but I've never noticed any drop in strength using Fin at low (.5mg daily) doses. I was using it during my last Smolov Jr cycle and still put 25lbs on my bench in 3 weeks (not on gear).
Is there a topical that's actually proven to be as...
I'm yet to run my first test cycle, so I don't know first hand. But I just assumed you may recover quicker on cycle? Meaning you might need fewer days before hitting the same movement again?
Just wondering how you guys approach this. If you're benching or squatting 2x per week off cycle, would you increase that? Or do you all keep your training split the same?
I would go 450 for as long as it would last maybe? It won't be as long, but since you're already "on", I don't know if it will take as long to kick in.
Adex at .5mg EOD should be plenty.
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