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  1. johnl1800

    Panther sports nutrition???

    I came across their products at online auction sites and wondered about them as well. If the products contain what the labels claim that they do they certainly look good but I haven't seen any reviews from anyone who has actually taken them.
  2. johnl1800

    Xcel Sports Prohormone

    Since you're going with the Black Lion products (Rebirth, Viron) for your PCT you may also want to pick up a bottle of their new estrogen blocker/aromastase inhibitor Letrone too just to be on the safe side.
  3. johnl1800

    Alpha Lab Technologies (former Anabolic Technologies)

    I came across this at prohormonedb.com "In various circles, Dymethazine has been touted as the replacement to Superdrol. While it's almost identical in in structure, the results have proven to be less reliable. Some users achieve very good gains with limited sides, while others see little to no...
  4. johnl1800

    Alpha Lab Technologies (former Anabolic Technologies)

    Which Xtreme DMZ did you run the old one by Anabolic Technologies or the new one by AlphaLab Technologies? I haven't had the chance to buy any of the new AlphaLab line so I can't comment on them but I purchased some of the old Anabolic Technologies Xtreme Mass and Xtreme DMZ shortly after the...
  5. johnl1800

    Alpha Lab Technologies (former Anabolic Technologies)

    All valid points. I think that sometimes people, especially first timers, may have unrealistic expectations from these products and when they don't immediately get huge and turn into the Hulk are quick to proclaim that the said product doesn't work or was fake. Yes they do work but they aren't...
  6. johnl1800

    Xcel Sports Prohormone

    As I recall Iron Mag Labs originally owned a piece of Blackstone but at some point Blackstone bought out their interest and the two companies are entirely independent of each other today. The **** products look pretty good, I plan on picking up a few bottles of the ******. That being said they...
  7. johnl1800

    Alpha Lab Technologies (former Anabolic Technologies)

    I'm interested in hearing if anyone has run any of their new products as well. Last year when they were still Anabolic Technologies their Xtreme Mass and Xtreme DMZ were good products. I was planning on picking up some of their new Xtreme Shred but I have such a back log stocked up from last...
  8. johnl1800

    It's Coming . . . SDMZ-RX 4.0

    For anyone interested, while the Super DMZ 4.0 bottle says "proprietary blend" I got the following from the IML forum: SUPER-DMZ Rx 4.0 60 Capsules Serving size: 1 capsule 3b-hydroxy-androst-4-en-17-one (4-Andro) - 100mg 3-hydroxy-5a-androst-1-en-17-one (1-Andro) - 50mg...
  9. johnl1800

    It's Coming . . . SDMZ-RX 4.0

    If IML only charged $20-30 for this I can't see how they could expect to make any kind of profit. Even bottles of stuff like glucosamine and creatine cost $20+. The andros, ostarine and laxogenin that it contains don't come cheap. In all fairness to IML the closest supplements to their new...
  10. johnl1800

    Alpha Lab Tech?

    Alpha Lab Technologies used to be Anabolic Technologies which was 100% legitimate. I haven't had the chance to take any of the new Alpha Lab Tech. products yet but looking over the labels on their website they look pretty good. If you know where to look online there's still a lot of the old...
  11. johnl1800

    It's Coming . . . SDMZ-RX 4.0

    While I completely understand their decision to discontinue M-Sten and Super DMZ 3.0, and the new Super DMZ 4.0 may well be a very good product in and of itself. The problem is their decision to name it "DMZ" when it doesn't contain any actual DMZ in it. It's an andro blend which is fine, but...
  12. johnl1800

    It's Coming . . . SDMZ-RX 4.0

    I hate to turn this into a "Let's bash IML" thread, because as I stated earlier on, I do like their products, I have bought many of them in the past, and most likely will continue to buy many of them in the future. However that being said I'd like to hear how they justify charging more money for...
  13. johnl1800

    It's Coming . . . SDMZ-RX 4.0

    I don't think that M-Sten or DMZ are officially banned. I think that the decision by IML and others to discontinue was based on the concern that they could be banned on as little as 30 days notice and they didn't want to get stuck investing a lot of money into stocking an inventory of product...
  14. johnl1800

    It's Coming . . . SDMZ-RX 4.0

    I'm actually a big fan of IML products but this is not just a disappointment but smacks of false advertizing as well. It may well be a pretty good product but when you name your product "DMZ" the implication is that it actually contains DMZ, or some variant of it, like the new Alphalab...
  15. johnl1800

    Possible fake Havoc? PCT still?

    I bought some Super DMZ 2.0, Xtreme Mass and Xtreme DMZ from him. As far as I can tell the Super DMZ "looks" legit but I haven't taken it yet. The Xtreme Mass and Xtreme DMZ had the plastic safety seal on the top stamped with the Anabolic Technologies logo on it so I was pretty confident that...
  16. johnl1800

    Best mass building ph cycle

    Anabolic Technologies Xtreme DMZ and Xtreme Mass (Msten) are still readily available too.
  17. johnl1800

    DHEA and the ban

    I would think that DHEA would be fairly low on the priority list especially when you consider that M-Sten and Super DMZ still haven't technically been added/banned yet. The problem is that no one has any idea how zealous they will be in adding anything new to the ban list. At the very least I...
  18. johnl1800

    what is left with this ban.

    Sorry but this law is complete crap and this is possibly one of the worst defenses of it that I've seen. On the list of all the kinds of stupid things that high school kids are likely to do pro hormones are probably very near the bottom of the list. I'm 51 years old, I don't need the government...
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