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  1. Iconic Formulations wants YOU to name our new product

    This brown eye situation chaps my ass.

  2. PRE Dymethazine (DMZ) Research Log

    Today was a rest day for the subject. 7 workouts in 6 days he was pretty beat down. He did look leaner in the midsection this morning so his body is adjusting to the increase cals. Subject was moving various items around his living area today and it seemed as if he was experiencing minor back...

  3. TRT thoughts.

    Yeah that’s what I do, he’s a good guy and good general doc. He just doesn’t know TRT. I’ve done a little experimenting with it. I feel like I get more out of less if I go sub q from a mood perspective. However my libido doesn’t seem as high as when I do IM. Personally I think this has to do...

  4. TRT thoughts.

    100mg once a month is a terrible idea. You will feel terrible on that. I personally am doing 125mg 2x a week. I would start at 100-150mg per week. You can do one or two injections. Some guys are fine on 100 once a week, others need 50 twice a week. Basically start low and build up until you...

  5. PRE Dymethazine (DMZ) Research Log

    Day 4 of 30mg dosing split into 2 doses. Test subject is visibly more vascular when exercising. The blood volume pumped into the muscles has been significant. Today the subject did a chest workout and he seemed to be moving his normal weights easier. Appetite has been pretty good but today is...

  6. PRE Dymethazine (DMZ) Research Log

    Awesome thanks for following! Tag me in on the Hex if you don’t mind. I haven’t heard much on it.

  7. PRE Dymethazine (DMZ) Research Log

    Starting today I will be running a research log on a primate. The substance being tested is DMZ or Dymethazine from Premier Research Essentials (PRE). I must stress this product is not approved for human consumption so please refrain from asking any questions about how this substance will affect...

  8. Any DMZ left?

    Don’t confuse fructose with High fructose corn syrup. He’s referencing the natural fructose is fruit as opposed to the refined syrup in soda etc. I have no idea if it works as I’ve never ran an liver toxic oral. I just thought it was interesting that’s what he claims works for him. Generally...

  9. Any DMZ left?

    Ah yeah that wouldn’t be good lol he claims the small amount of fructose stimulates the liver which causes it to help cleanse itself if I remember correctly. So the theory revolves around the natural fruit sugars not necessarily OJ.

  10. Any DMZ left?

    This is going to sound stupid but have you ever tried drinking 3-4oz of ORange Juice 3 times a day while on an oral to keep appetite up? I was listening to a pro BB (Stan Efferding) and he claims this keeps his appetite up and helps his liver values when using orals.

  11. Any DMZ left?

    I’m about to start a log on PREs DMZ tomorrow. It’s a research log as it’s a research chemical and clearly not for human consumption but the animal research i plan to conduct should be pretty telling.

  12. EGGS are bad for you - article

    Stan Efferding has a YouTube series called “rhinos rants” and he said in one that you don’t know anything about training, nutrition or supplementation because for every “study” there’s another that someone else has done that disproves your study. So he recommends personal experimentation. If...

  13. EGGS are bad for you - article

    The most recent research indicates that dietary cholesterol has no effect on blood cholesterol levels in the majority of the population. Those who are impacted are hyper sensitive, think peanut allergy.

  14. Doctor wants to put me on trt at 18

    Look up Stan Efferdings Vertical diet concept. Eat like this for 6 months. Get on private md labs and buy a blood test Total test, free t, e2, t3/t4, shbg , d3, cholesterol. Research your results, supp with vitamin D3 If it’s low. Get a set sleep schedule, 10-6 or 11-7am ideally for your...

  15. JDM23’s Lipo 6 log

    Thanks! :) I saved a couple capsules because I was able to buy a bottle of the full dose off a friend really cheap so I’m going to use those to work into the full bottle but I’m going to take a month or two off of the heavy stims.

  16. JDM23’s Lipo 6 log

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  17. JDM23’s Lipo 6 log

    Ok so final review. Full discloser when I realized it was a lower dose than I was used to I was fully expecting to be disappointed. However, I really enjoyed the lower dose for the first week to 10 days but then I would have liked the higher dosed pills just to keep from taking 4 per day. I...

  18. JDM23’s Lipo 6 log

    Ok sorry about missing yesterday. Not sure what changed but I’ve felt crappy since yesterday afternoon. Bloated, tired, no energy, muscles look flat, no vascularity, etc. As a result diet was crap today. Workout was flat. I’m thinking maybe it is some adrenal fatigue as I’ve been on stims for...

  19. JDM23’s Lipo 6 log

    Invalid Link Removed meal 2. 1 cup white rice, 4oz smoked hot Italian deer sausage, 1 egg, 1 tbls Parmesan garlic sauce and olive oil. Measured my waist and it’s down another half inch! Checked arms and they were the same size so the weight lost is coming off the right places!

  20. Swim's cut

    Your arms are significantly leaner than they were a few months ago. Doing awesome bro.
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