Love how this forum and you in particular are never combative! We are always positive an civil. I agree with your conclusion. And for me, i want the additional flavanols of CocaoVia even if it means lower epicatechin(given i am 50 and working every angle!!!) - if that goal changes SNS Epi...
Seems the memory is less epicatechin in that flavanol extract so who knows. But I love the Cardio one as i get the same ingredients used in the trial study which includes 450 epi.
Thank you it does. Since so many other products i take have contain bioperine so no need for more. And i want the add heast benefits so CocoaVIa is it.
But if you need more Epicatechin at a lower price and dont need the additional heart benefits of the CocoaVia, SNS FTW as always!
SNS is...
Just as a help to all, CocaoVia Heart is the best source for epicatechin - its outside of the bodybuilding world but is the gold standard and a 30d supply is $38 on AZMN...you get 500mg of Cocoa flavanols of which 85% are epicatechin, or 425mg.
@MadStax that really means you are at a 1.25:1 ratio mg/mg which is what matters as not every bottle of T is 250mg/ml nor is every bottle of Dece 200mg/ml.
To add to @HIT4ME : What is the range given for the Free T. Free T is what matters and if you have lower SHBG your Free T can easily be mid-range even with total T in the lower end.
Also you mentioned you and your doctor guessed Free T would be at 700-800 - this must have been based on you...
I just get the Ghiradelli 100% Unsweetened Cocao off amazon for $3.98 for 8oz. i tablespoon per 1 scoop vanilla whey is a a kick ass dark chocolate flavor and you get the benefits of the cocoa. I will also add in .5 tablespoon per scoop of whey of cinnamon sometimes for a chocolate cinnamon...
Loads of great stuff in that! I convert my vanilla whey to chocolate with 1 tablespoon of cocoa(unsweetened) per scoop of whey. Sure it has 15cal per table spoon but there are so many good flavanoids in that cocoa!
@GQdaLEGEND : I would say i am feeling actually pretty good - more endurance and going harder in the gym. I have zero complaints about this stack and would definialty recommend it.
@Drolball : they arent exactly the same, i update the post with the results from end of Feb but i started about 4...
I found in all the research i did the BMP, Follidrone 2.0, AE and MTest consistently got the best reviews and they all hit different paths which is why i decided to combine them in my stack and rotate 1 item in and out. I started with BMP, F2 and AE with good results except my low T symptoms...
@GQdaLEGEND I does 3 caps am(around 5am) and the other 3 caps pm(around 330pm). The F2.0 and BMP is at the same time
@TommyTuffGuy I agree, just hedging here since i will be doing another test in about 6 weeks. But man in just over a week libido, happiness and drive are up and sleep is better.
While is could be placebo, the last 2 nights have been better sleep and even though I am generally happy and motivated, the last 2 days have taken those aspects up noticably.
After about 8 weeks on Mtest to see if any increases happen. I have symptoms of low T as historically i am a exceedingly happy and very driven guy. Im still very happy and driven but its like i have a weight on my back and a veil over my eyes.
Ok all, updated numbers including E and SHBG. My T and Free T are lower but at least the E and SHBG are not out of whack. Seems primed for TRT if alternative measures dont work.
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