Clearly I expected suppression, hence the dermacrine and epiandro to deal with the suppression effects and serm for pct. I didn't expect full shutdown in 4 weeks.
I'm with you in thinking these people are clearly getting suppressed and just not experiencing the sides. I'm just a little floored that some people are running it and feeling nothing negative while I'm over here with a broken dick after 4 weeks. Obviously I agree that there needs to be serm pct...
I've read a lot of logs and I can't say I've ever seen one where someone has claimed full shutdown on LGD. You can go over to reddit and see thread after thread and recommendation after recommendation of people running LGD for 8 weeks at 5mg or 10mg without a PCT and without experiencing any...
It's my understanding that dermacrine is just topical DHEA and basically worthless for anything other than increasing your circulating DHEA, and epiandro also seems like a pretty light compound - so no, I didn't expect full shut down. Dermacrine/epiandro alone wouldn't shut you down.
Obviously...
Why only 4 weeks? Good move... I see everyone else running lgd for 8 weeks but after 4 weeks on Mass GH plus dermacrine/epiandro my dick stopped working entirely so I came off and started pct a couple days ago.
My first cycle was about 3.5 weeks and I came off when I started getting weaker...
I hear you and I agree. I definitely don't want to fuk up anything long term.
I'm still unable to get a decent hardon but my loads are bigger so I really don't know what's going on.
Thanks for the response. I think you're right. Any idea how long I should wait before my next cycle? I'm thinking just 2 weeks of pct, assuming things go well and then another week or two to achieve homeostasis before hopping onto a new cycle without the damn mk677.
That's awesome. Glad to hear it. Sweet stack with the andros and dermacrine.
How's your libido / erection strength?
Soon as my boner issues dissipate I'm going to do a very similar run with 4andro, epiandro, dermacrine, and lgd.
Thanks, Rob. I've got some ar1macare that has P5P and L-Dopa for prolactin control so I just took a dose of that in addition to the torem at 60. In the middle of the night and when I woke up I'd say I had a 60% hardness event which is certainly improvement over yesterday's impotence. I forced...
I don't run multiple sarms. MK677 is not a sarm. It's a GH secretagogue, and it's not suppressive to the HPTA (for most users anyway). Increase in appetite and body composition make it a good stacker with the LGD for a bulk. Problem is, after 3 weeks or so the lethargy and libido/weak boners is...
You're running LGD AND RAD? Jesus. I'd be afraid my nuts would fall off at this rate. But really, at this point in my research, I don't think that my boner problem is attributable to the sarm - but rather my odd reaction to the MK 677.
Are you really taking regular oral DHEA? The...
Ya know, I think you're right after specifically looking for this issue in other logs. I got ****ty advice from other boards regarding shutdown. It seems like MK works great for most people but for a couple here and there, it murders their libido to the point where cialis won't even work. That's...
Hmm. Can you point me to any other logs where you've seen similar issues? I'd certainly be interested in trying to piece it together. So you think it's a prolactin issue stemming from the MK?
Maybe I'll try the solo LGD next cycle and see if not having the MK in there makes a difference. Or if...
I'm one of the three non anonymous bloodwork states. What should I do? If I could go get that **** done I'd do it no problem. ****ing anti privacy state government.
Have any theories as to what's going on here, friend? I've asked around on other boards and everyone shouts "your lgd is bunk, it's a ph!" which is not very helpful.
Thanks for the response. I definitely freaked out a bit when my dick stopped working. I've asked around and heard a variety of things - cortisol, low estro, ect. How/which of these compounds causes prolactin buildup? I have been taking 600mg epiandro I dropped everything today and started torem...
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