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  1. Worst protein powder award of the century goes to...

    juicy thread. sales dont worry me, i think it comes down to how greedy a company wants to be (spiking and making money) and thats anyones educated guess, basic whey can be had under 10 bucks a lb and thats without buying in bulk like companies do, so im not going to lose sleep buying bogos...

  2. PES preworkout

    my favorite stack i recommend, HV plus caffeine tabs, perfect for the person who doesnt drink tons of stims. thats the issue though, a good chunk of people who like pres drink too much stims to properly enjoy something so simple and awesome. i imagine its quite hard to find that balance...

  3. PES preworkout

    imo The average person is not going to want to bother adding stims, your typical consumer wants an all in one package and cant tell you what a pump is much less care to add in separate ingredients, and if anything would rather spend 30 dollars on something packed with energy vs pure ergogenics...

  4. Supplements for 24hr refeed days on Keto diet.......?

    would like to hear you expand on those thoughts.

  5. Supplements for 24hr refeed days on Keto diet.......?

    perhaps im totally out of touch with what keto dieting involves but.... given that its veryyy minimal carbs...i would naturally think insulin sensitivity is through the roof, why would you need an insulin mimicker to put you in a state its already naturally in.... seems redundant to say the least.

  6. Pre workout info

    good stuff man, hope you have a huge hit on your hands. sounds like we will be waiting for a bit, but itll be one of the very select pres ill have to try.

  7. Next PES Insider Deal???

    I know right.. ive been on forskolin containing products for quite a few months though, latest being ABE of course (AA forsk-->shift-->ABE), taking a month off or so, hopefully my cut will be done by then (doubtful). on norco and added Y-hcl right now. if need be, ill throw in the new forskolin...

  8. Next PES Insider Deal???

    true, you know if anyone has been penciled in for the weekly pes pre thread yet? ill sign up either one of the next 2 sundays if theres any vacancies. on a srs note, ill take 6 of anything.

  9. Next PES Insider Deal???

    are we having pes support fights? dem insider withdrawals. RELEASE THE KRAKEN PES, we need our fix. 8bottlesofPESforskolininmycloset.jpeg

  10. AMP Citrate

    25mg hits me nicely. will just add an extra 100mg caffeine when i need to, tolerance isnt building up fast like i expected. but i also dont dose stims to get "stim high", i do it for a boost. i do question whether that variable plays into peoples opinion of sources, aka, dosing things super...

  11. Next PES Insider Deal???

    2 ways to take this: -foreshadowing the near future -stating the obvious (something is coming inevitably, aka a teaser) CC is always ready for release though, will try not to over think it, lol.

  12. AMP Citrate

    ive heard a lot of mixed things about a popular vendor, as far as "googling for it", top source is generally the one thats most talked about good and bad. although i also think part of the problem is people are stim junkies used to popping 400mg+ caffeine plus other stims pre workout then...

  13. Pre workout info

    you what...custom steroid synthesis? unrelated? what exactly are you working all on right now champ?

  14. Multi-Vitamins

    Ant already touched on reasoning behind good multi selections, if you base that on OTs label, its pretty darn solid bang for your buck. i havent seen anything cheaper that uses as many full spectrum (or close to) forms of things, ie, vitamin a and e in cheaper options almost always have singular...

  15. ABE dosig scheme

    usually quite a while, i typically fast in the mornings till late lunch as i have an insane appetite while cutting and hate having small meals. ABE seems to have little effect if at all on hunger for me personally, be it bulking or cutting, which is nice.

  16. ABE dosig scheme

    indeed. wasnt trying to minimize all the different things it possibly brings to the table, was just meaning im not aware of too many effects that would matter with or w/o food, although i do see why its generally recommended the way it is. kbayne, im taking my first serving of ABE with Y-hcl...

  17. Supplement: Is Cheap the way to go?

    cellucors coming out with cn3, straight creatine nitrate+vitamin c. certainly not bulk, but they tend to do a decent job with sales and such.

  18. ABE dosig scheme

    iirc, forskolin is more optimal on an empty stomach does it not? aside from stomach upset, do the potential gda properties really outweigh the tried and true forskolin benefits (not implying food leaves forskolin useless, but still)? 1 side (taking it w/o food) has more evidence pointing towards...

  19. Supplement: Is Cheap the way to go?

    i had no intention of putting words in your mouth, or nit pick your decision fwiw, was just curious if you had any sound evidence behind your opinion, but sometimes personal logic has to triumph in these ordeals and i understand, because i do agree theres lots of over hyping in this industry, no...

  20. Can vitamin K have a big impact on muscle growth

    please expand on your thoughts on K forms sir. was curious myself if its worthwhile to add in, although eating a healthy diet is an obvious no brainer.
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