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  1. NYiron

    Am I cheating myself by skipping abs?

    By not specifying and using the word core loosely, as you have, you actually have specified in this instance. By saying an individual, in lordosis and/or anterior pelvic tilt during an OHP, has a lack of core activation your are in fact assigning the function of the core to spinal flexion and...
  2. NYiron

    Am I cheating myself by skipping abs?

    That's why in one of my posts I asked for your definition of core. Then I followed it with an inquiry asking if I was reading your statements wrong. When no response to either was given coupled with your statement about core lacking activation in an OHP due to hyperextension of the spine I...
  3. NYiron

    Am I cheating myself by skipping abs?

    The point was that spinal rotation is not a primary function of the abdominal complex. If he is using good form and as previously stated, is not lordotic or kyphotic through the movements stated then he is utilizing the abdominal complex in its primary function, maintaining and stabilizing a...
  4. NYiron

    Am I cheating myself by skipping abs?

    The degree of acceptable spinal rotation at any point suggests that the primary function of the abdominal complex is not to initiate rotation but rather to resist it. Thus protecting the spine from excess torque and resulting in dynamic stability and power through the proximal and most distal...
  5. NYiron

    Am I cheating myself by skipping abs?

    Bench most definitely will activate the muscles involved with core/spinal stabilization. It will be even more so if he is utilizing leg drive in his press.
  6. NYiron

    Am I cheating myself by skipping abs?

    What is your definition of core? As far as core strengthening exercises, I'd say those the OP listed are spot on regarding spinal stabilization. All of which have prime mover applications utilizing the core in its intended fashion. I've gotta say I'm an advocate of planks and variations as...
  7. NYiron

    Am I cheating myself by skipping abs?

    OP, What is your definition of abdominal training?
  8. NYiron

    Begginer Question

    No I have never read it, I have never really been one to follow anyone else's templates. I will probably read it eventually though to see what all the fuss is about. Even when I have (PHAT) I used it as more of a skeleton and worked in my own details/methodologies, that I know work for me. So...
  9. NYiron

    Begginer Question

    Good luck! Keep on hammering away and the size/strength will come.
  10. NYiron

    Begginer Question

    Were you dropping weight intentionally? Take a look at your diet because your just spinning your wheels if its not where it needs to be to grow. As far as programs go, my personal preference has been to never follow anything strictly to how its written. My philosophy is how can anything...
  11. NYiron

    Hit a plateau

    I agree with you as well. I may have been going to the extremes on either end but it was in attempts to define the differences. My thought process was as such due to the post that attempted to blend the two seamlessly as one in the same. But at any rate, both athletes can benefit from a little...
  12. NYiron

    Hit a plateau

    I knew someone was going to post up some one that was a successful powerlifter and bodybuilder. In most cases this does not happen and the training does differ significantly. To say they are one in the same isn't the best way to put it.
  13. NYiron

    Hit a plateau

    It isn't that simple. There are most definitely considerable differences in training for strength and training for aesthetic. The two are also very different goals. Look at your strength athletes and look at bodybuilders natural and enhanced, alike. They are most often pretty different in a...
  14. NYiron

    Any used Layne Nortons P.H.A.T program?

    What's your goals?
  15. NYiron

    Hit a plateau

    For aesthetic, with goals of hypertrophy and bodybuilding the second workout is much better suited. The first one is a full body program, while it will yield results it isn't an optimal program for your goals. The potential for growth/stimulation in workout 1 especially regarding sarcoplasmic...
  16. NYiron

    Problem with muscle asymmetry?

    Go to the doctor... Edit: I dont know if its just me but this post is eerily similar to a thread/post just a couple threads down. Are you guys training together or something? Both of you benched today with goals to lower the weight and keep the bar straight with good form and only felt the...
  17. NYiron

    bodybuilding routine or p.h.a.t

    No problem
  18. NYiron

    SERIOUS muscle asymmetry problem

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  19. NYiron

    bodybuilding routine or p.h.a.t

    I hear you on that, it is a great establishment. I must say I do enjoy posting myself, in my efforts to provide sources to back my statements I often come across various studies and expand my own knowledge, as i get side tracked by interesting abstracts.
  20. NYiron

    bodybuilding routine or p.h.a.t

    1. "You will also find that your strength will start to skyrocket! I do recommend deloading once every 6-12 weeks however. A deload would consist of 1-3 weeks of lifting at 60-70% of your normal weights. This will be enough to maintain your strength, but light enough to allow you to actively...
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