Odds are that most "normal" teens *do* have high levels though. And physiological range Test (at least according to a lot of the research) isn't *all* that important for muscle gains any way. The Dr's Nadulsky were both in the 400's IIRC, Bhasin's studies didn't show all that much improvement...
This is a long copy/paste, sorry. It's from another forum so I don't think it can be linked. You can Google "At what age is the male endocrine system fully developed". I also have no opinion on this guys data - just the messenger - evaluate yourself. My *only* source of the "wait til you're 26"...
The DHEA-S test is about $54. I'd get a before and after (which you can do quickly as this is a daily supplement and you should peak after about 2 hrs). Dermacrine was 14.4mg DHEA per pump, which was 72mg for the 5 pump max. Using another product supplying 100mg, my DHEA-S only rose 20 points...
This is aimed at the "Reads the Ads, Doesn't Research" crowd (which I get). A high % of the members here already know this. Sadly, the "Class of 2018 Nineteen Year Old Ad Readers" is what keeps some unscrupulous people in business - year, after year, after year...
Sticking a syringe in my a$$ :D Sorry man, lost interest in PHs since going on TRT. I still may do some 1-Andro tho - what more do you need with the anecdotal plus university study on it? Like you, I looked up 6-Keto and didn't find much - you'd think it would be everywhere if it was that good...
If you're on TRT, just get around High SHBG by using more Testosterone - which is what a TRT specialist will do. I wish 3,4 Div had actual N=Many studies done on it in vivio - same for Eurycoma Longifolia - but there aren't. Then quality of source becomes an issue and you're adding at least...
You get your trough levels checked at 170mg yet? Depending on SHBG, I bet you are pretty happy. Everyone is different obviously, but I was in the 7's (trough) at 120mg - Crisler moved me up to 140 with bloods coming up soon. His hCG protocol is a little different though - 10 units/day to mimic...
There is IGF-1 in other stuff, has been for a long time. Hormones given to cows have been shown to end up in the Milk. Bio-Grow had it. Even the Deer Antler had it. So what - it's oral and gets raped by the adult digestive system. Even if your levels go up a bit - what does that translate to in...
Not unless you check your Blood Pressure while starting low and ramping up, testing each time - would be my opinion. Combining a Beta 3 Agonist with an A2 Antagonist *could* do funny things to the Heart.
I don't worry about Leucine since I'm not a Vegan. Whey, Casein, Chicken, Eggs, Beef, Fish at about 2g/kg is enough Leucine for me - especially with IF and eating only 2-3 big meals. 10g of Leucine isn't better than 5g and I definitely get 5g each feeding, from my food/cow powder. I've...
Suppversity has 4 or 5 positive outcome studies in athletes (including weightlifters) for HMB-Ca. No need for mice or test tubes, and the stuff if $55 a kilo - just take it :D
If your Ostarine was legit, and you took 20mg/day - you were suppressed. See UncleSARM's blood work below. What you *felt* doesn't matter - tons of people feel great even when hypo-gonadal - I am one of them. But who knows, it was just as likely to be Rice Flower... they recco'd 50mg! on the...
My cherry run was with 1-Andro and 4-AD (Sublingual from AMS). Just start with those two, IMO. The 4-AD will increase T (as a base) better than a TD DHEA product - since you are taking a drug any way (1-Andro), the 4-AD isn't going to cause any (much?) additional support damage (Liver Values...
The Preg is feel good for anyone, the DHEA prob makes older guys feel good. There's only 2 PubMed studies on TD DHEA and Testosterone - in those, Test only jumped a few points, ie. a really small amount in range. Since most use it as a base with drugs, bloodwork as far as Test goes wouldn't tell...
The guy above found what I was thinking of. Your lab had a lower max normal - which is what I was curious about. What is your PRL now, after using the drug? Glad to see it was Dr. supervised, couldn't tell by the post.
Yeah, it *is* easier - I just don't like the occasional lumps in that location- weirds me out. I do 10 units of hCG there though - piece of (painlness) cake for sure.
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