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  1. muad33b

    EvoMuse Presents: Epitome™

    higher bf% here - I'm not noting any increase in appetite - I'm in the camp that has a hard time finishing meals if I've dosed Epitome pre-meal, so I actually dose with a meal to try to avoid the appetite crush, since I need to get my protein in... woke up late today and was working out a couple...
  2. muad33b

    EvoMuse Presents: Epitome™

    Discussed here: Invalid Link Removed I don't know the ingredients, but from my readings I know that it's basically the leptin part without the AMPK part... the idea being that for folks who have a lot of fat to loose we could do Rebirth upon waking and before going to sleep, along with Epitome...
  3. muad33b

    EvoMuse Presents: Epitome™

    dsade, what's the ETA on Rebirth?
  4. muad33b

    EvoMuse Presents: Epitome™

    I hear ya, but here's my thinking. I'm trying to make some rapid fat loss progress even if that means I halt muscle growth. i know the ideal protocol that dsade spoke of either earlier in this thread or another thread was Rebirth upon waking and before going to bed, for the leptin side of the...
  5. muad33b

    EvoMuse Presents: Epitome™

    Is that the estimate for Epitome, 3 weeks? Cool. Do you know the estimate for Rebirth? Oh, and thanks, even though you were trying to help out JudoJosh... at least *I* didn't take it all. :cough: mr.cooper :cough: :tongue2:
  6. muad33b

    EvoMuse Presents: Epitome™

    Also, what's the ETA on rebirth? As I know that adding that in would be better than going to 3x/day with Epitome. Just started it yesterday btw, not much to report just yet. Also running low dose osta (to preserve muscle mass) and gw501516, along with some low dose olive leaf extract, and eating...
  7. muad33b

    EvoMuse Presents: Epitome™

    Actually, I bought 2 of the 6 (thinking I'd leave you some) so it's only 66% mr. cooper's fault. This is what I needed to keep myself going for the next few months. I'm toying with the idea of jumping on S4 and going to 3 caps of Epitome a day since I'm in the 20+% bodyfat area and sick of...
  8. muad33b

    andro factory & 711 spray stacked

    Andro Factory = (former) Primordial Performance "Andro series" clones. They're non methylated DHEA based stuff, which are unmethylated, moderately effective, and very expensive. If you're running the stronger options for a bulk, I would save the 11 spray for a bridge, and the 7 spray for PCT. I...
  9. muad33b

    DIM good or bad??

    Yup, I was gonna say I3C > DIM, but you've gone the extra mile to present D_'s explanation as to why - good post.
  10. muad33b

    11 spray side effects

    I think it stacks great with anything if you're on a recomp type anabolic cycle. If you're on a bulker, I'd say if anything go with UR spray to avoid fat gain, and save the 11 for more of a recomp/cut timeframe.
  11. muad33b

    PH evolution

    Yea, I didn't have that problem, but I was high dosing Hawthorne berry + CoQ10 + Garlic, used UR Spray on-cycle, really watched my sodium intake and upped my potassium intake (to reduce water retention) as I knew the BP issue could be a problem.
  12. muad33b

    PH evolution

    Yea, sides on SD are brutal to be sure. I've only run it once, after running around 7 cycles previously, all but one of which were hdrol or epi based (tried pplex once, sides on that weren't fun either)... and at this point I'm going to cut until I about as lean as you are, at which point we'll...
  13. muad33b

    PH evolution

    I can agree with taking things step wise, but we're not talking about a crazy stack here, we're talking about test (which, depending on the dosage is nothing more than akin to taking a test booster) as a base for a var or tbol cycle... if I were to ever go to the dark side, this is the kind of...
  14. muad33b

    PH evolution

    Yea, as I said, the word is that Oral Turinabol (tbol) is a good choice from a price perspective, some even prefer it over var. To be honest, since I haven't tried either, I can't say anything other than "try one then the other out and then you'll know from experience".
  15. muad33b

    PH evolution

    Glad that was what you were looking for; you're welcome. Route of administration, injection vs. oral, in the short term is more of a personal preference than a health issue, as long as you take care of your liver (i.e. for the most part the only difference between oral and injectible is liver...
  16. muad33b

    PH evolution

    I'll take a swing at this one for Patrick. There are a couple of things going on here... one is that after a few cycles the results that you get from a particular compound seem to taper off... i.e. the major effect that compound will have on your genetics will approach it's maximum... which is...
  17. muad33b

    Pump spray application

    I hear ya, it was tough for me to spare the skin for some 11-spray lol
  18. muad33b

    Pump spray application

    Yea, I'm currently running 11-spray + Pump Spray and cutting. The tough part about measuring fat loss/gain is the way your body reacts visually at different bodyfat levels (for instance, you can from 18% to 16% and see nothing, but then going from 16% to 15% might be huge, depending on your...
  19. muad33b

    Pump spray application

    I continue to see slow steady progress (fat loss + muscle preservation if a eat less, improved muscularity if I eat more) out beyond that point. How are you measuring? Are you sure that it's Pump/UR spray that's the issue with your stalled progress? What are your goals? Anyhow, if I was going...
  20. muad33b

    Pump spray application

    I agree... it's already my favorite natural supplement of all time. :-)
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