It’s just not the same anymore. The euphoria is basically gone and you need to stack it with something else to get something similar to the OG like phenibut
It’s a good pre workout and puts you in the zone once you start getting in your groove and music, but to put this in the same tier as doomsday hardcore is a stretch… maybe doomsday is a good comparison as you actually HAVE to have the will first.
Sooo @Hockeyman1019 convinced me to try phenibut + excelsior the day of and… I don’t like it. There’s a buzz feeling (like weed) where you feel a bit high and euphoric but everything is slow paced.
It feels like you’re floating but at the same the energy kick you usually get from excelsior is...
Oh definitely a strong warning. My buddy suggested I take pure phenibut along with excelsior for maximum efficiency and enhanced effects but that’s a slippery slope I wouldn’t dare try.
You’re right that phenibut doesn’t help you sleep, it only helps while you’re already asleep but boy do you...
What I like with phenibut is that the sleep actually feels like you slept and got rest while it feels like my body did a “time skip” and I wake feeling tired and groggy if I took a benzo
Just be careful if you try because phenibut can behighly addictive. It’s a 1 time per week kinda thing.
Personally I use somatomax at 1 scoop and then 2 scoops excelsior the next morning
The forbidden mix is phenibut the night before for a good sleep followed by excelsior the next day for a good workout
Feels like phenibut brings back the missing euphoria found in the old excelsior batches
ngl that actually feels like my experience taking excelsior. That fruit punch wiff along with the spicy feeling when I dry scoops brings all sorts of PTSD
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