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  1. zufir

    Excelsior pre workout

    Still the best pre workout
  2. zufir

    Excelsior pre workout

    It’s just not the same anymore. The euphoria is basically gone and you need to stack it with something else to get something similar to the OG like phenibut
  3. zufir

    Excelsior pre workout

    It’s a good pre workout and puts you in the zone once you start getting in your groove and music, but to put this in the same tier as doomsday hardcore is a stretch… maybe doomsday is a good comparison as you actually HAVE to have the will first.
  4. zufir

    Excelsior pre workout

    Kill switch is…. Okay. but my receptors may be cooked
  5. zufir

    Excelsior pre workout

    That’s pretty bad… how long did the symptoms last ?
  6. zufir

    Excelsior pre workout

    Did you have any withdrawals when you stopped?
  7. zufir

    Excelsior pre workout

    ...I slept 12 hours right after my cocktail so at least there's no trouble with sleep haha
  8. zufir

    Excelsior pre workout

    Sooo @Hockeyman1019 convinced me to try phenibut + excelsior the day of and… I don’t like it. There’s a buzz feeling (like weed) where you feel a bit high and euphoric but everything is slow paced. It feels like you’re floating but at the same the energy kick you usually get from excelsior is...
  9. zufir

    Excelsior pre workout

    Why'd you stop ? haha
  10. zufir

    Excelsior pre workout

    The next closest to excelsior is thermal spark 😂😂😂
  11. zufir

    Excelsior pre workout

    Oh definitely a strong warning. My buddy suggested I take pure phenibut along with excelsior for maximum efficiency and enhanced effects but that’s a slippery slope I wouldn’t dare try. You’re right that phenibut doesn’t help you sleep, it only helps while you’re already asleep but boy do you...
  12. zufir

    Excelsior pre workout

    What I like with phenibut is that the sleep actually feels like you slept and got rest while it feels like my body did a “time skip” and I wake feeling tired and groggy if I took a benzo
  13. zufir

    Excelsior pre workout

    Just be careful if you try because phenibut can behighly addictive. It’s a 1 time per week kinda thing. Personally I use somatomax at 1 scoop and then 2 scoops excelsior the next morning
  14. zufir

    Excelsior pre workout

    The forbidden mix is phenibut the night before for a good sleep followed by excelsior the next day for a good workout Feels like phenibut brings back the missing euphoria found in the old excelsior batches
  15. zufir

    Excelsior pre workout

    As long as its half as good as excelsior then it’s worth it because it’s half as expensive. I would use it as a daily if I like it
  16. zufir

    Excelsior pre workout

    ngl that actually feels like my experience taking excelsior. That fruit punch wiff along with the spicy feeling when I dry scoops brings all sorts of PTSD
  17. zufir

    Excelsior pre workout

    convinved me. I grabbed 2
  18. zufir

    Excelsior pre workout

    i'll take your thermal spark too
  19. zufir

    Excelsior pre workout

    if you're looking for something similar you'd have to take doomsday hardcore
  20. zufir

    Excelsior pre workout

    I'll shake your tub in my belly :)
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