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  1. Havoc and lethargy

    Well to be honest my expectations have been more than reached from this so far, i was looking at adding 8-10 pounds lean while keeping my bodyfat about the same which i think is around 10 to 12%. I've gained 12lbs to date and if anything i think i've lost BF but hard to say without measuring...

  2. Havoc and lethargy

    Ah ok cool, i've been using a multivitamin but not a vitamin b or b complex aswell. I can source this kind of thing no problem here. One more thing, would adding more carbs around the time i train be of benefit to the lethargy issue, maybe more simple carbs like adding honey or energy drink pre...

  3. Havoc and lethargy

    Hi guys, first of all i'm new to posting on this site, read a lot of threads and gained a fair amount of info from here so thanks to the guys who contribute their knowledge for the less informed to learn. At the moment i'm on my third week of a havoc cycle, had some amazing gains so far...
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