A couple months ago, I took Assault Labs Msten for 3 weeks, building up the dose from 16 mg the first week, to around 24 mg the second, and 30 mg the third week. For the fourth week I tried LGI Msten at 40 mg. The whole time I also took Pharmatec Epistane, ramping up like this: 20/20/30/40/60...