3 grams citrulline with 2 grams of agmatine (sns or prima, dun care) and 1gram of HICA 30 mins pre workout gaves me honest to buddha all day pumps. At another point i was takin 1gram agmatine, 1g argnine, 750mg velvet bean (std l-dopa) 45min to hour before bed when i had to quit smoking weed...