Sorry I'm just a lurker. Just wanted to give some feedback on a pre workout. I don't know if it's as good as Excelsior, I never tried it because of the reports of the crashes it gives you. As for phenta it great if you like pre's that make you lose track of time. It constantly keeps me moving...
I ordered a tub from them too. The top came with ridges. It does seem to have something extra in it. I thoroughly enjoy it. It gives me very clean and focused energy that's lasts throughout the day with no crash.
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