Do to the fact that you will be shut down from the msten anyway. The osta is to prevent the catabolic state or your hormones rebalancing equating to lost gains. Which by the way no serm except for hcg will combat immediately. Osta isn't noticable at high doses either it's just glorified...
Like this
Msten 10/10/20/20/30/30
Serm 0/0/0/0/0/0/40/40/20/20/10/10
Osta 12.5mg & armistane25mg 0/0/0/0/0/0/2c/2c/2c/1c
Natural test boost 0/0/0/0/0/0/0/0/0/0/x/x/x/x/
On cycle support up untill pct
And x is what ever variable you like as your t booster
I do not advise 8 weeks of hard orals...
This is exactly correct thats why you should flip that. As people are loosely throwing around the term "shut down". Osta supresses which is why i chose to throw it in at the end because the msten will shut you down. Hence why osta and armistane for 4 weeks with your pct accompanied by an...
I ran and like the results
Dmz 2.0 0/0/20/40/60/60
Alpha 1 20/40/60/60/0/0
Osta shred 0/0/0/0/0/0/2c/2c/2c/1c
Tamox 0/0/0/0/0/0/40/20/20/20/10
Super cadarine 0/0/0/0/0/0/30/30/30/30/20/20/20/20
The easiest way to tell if it's real or not is atrophy by the end of the cycle. Gets me everytime, as far as not taking a pct ide never risk that. My dmz came from a1 im on my 3rd week of my pct atm. Stay away from amazon thats where all the bogus stuff has come from.
I actually found somthing on evo "the perfect pct" backing alot of the reasons im doing it this way. Can't post the link but i think it's worth a read homies.
I've seen bloods that went both ways for people that ran it with a pct. I figured ill just get some bloods done at the end to see how i respond. My test seems to come back fairly quick because im still young. Worst case scenario ill just trt my self at 200mgs and hcg. But i do appreciate you...
Iv'e ran epi multiple times at this point i would recommend taking ad3 pct which has armistane in it and your standard other things milk thistle etc. It's non methylated and has worked well for me in the past armistane is allways part of my pct. Yohimbe seems to also work well for me in...
Im currently running cardarine with osta shred and nolvadex as a recomp/pct. After a dmz 2.0 0/1/2/4/6 alpha 1 1/2/2/2/2 cycle.
Super cardarine 30mg ed 8weeks
Osta shred 50mg armistane 25mg ostrine 8weeks
Nolvadex 40/20/20/10
Igf1 a possible for week 4-8
The only real sides cardarine has...
Yes i guess if he were to run it at a super high dose this would be problematic. Although there are many articles you can find that state desensitization only happens when it's ran to high or to long. And im like 95% sure this is what hcg is used for all the time but thats just my 2cents i can't...
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