im using trenavar, and epi staked. treanavar dosing is 30mg, 15mg a.m, 15mg p.m. epi is 20 mg a.m 20mg p.m. i am 10 days in am all is going good. i started out 194 and as of this morning 203. treanavar is a good prod. but it is a little expensive to run. i would say its a lot like superdrol...