I think Mesomorph still has it also and the old Maximize can still be found.
I agree, once I switched to caffeine and 1,3 caps the feeling was not the same. There was something missing indeed.
The MT marketing dept. are evil geniuses *insert dastardly laugh*.... this is THE MOST hype I've ever seen from a supp. that's not even available yet. Whether negative or positive they've got their product on everyone's radar.
I'm a firm believer that one can make use of almost any supplement if training and diet are in order (notice I put training before diet, JMHO). So I'm certainly gonna give it a go, might even hit a muscle group multiple times a day every other day... we'll see. Nonetheless you've made your point.
You have valid points, however can you at least understand the skepticism? I'm not saying that the data isn't valid, what I'm saying is that it's 1 study with nothing to compare it to.
I was under the impression that 3.2g - 4.4g of leucine was required to maximize MPS....according to the chart on Layne's website that's only ~5oz. of beef, pork, or chicken. Just trying to soak up info here to further my own knowledge base.
It looked to me that the article was stating that if you get enough protein via your diet then supplementing with more leucine won't yield any measurable difference. Per se if you're 200lbs eating 200g of protein what exactly would be the point of using more leucine on top of it?
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