so the tiredness has went away thankfully. I have been running the 600mg a day.. diet has not been perfect but feel like my mid section is tightening up a little bit.
I have some animal cuts at the house as well. Any reason to not take this with the 11-oxo? I believe that to be all natural...
think i just want something mild to reduce the chances of getting gyno in the first place.. not have to take a serm to stop it from happening... i will give it a few more days and see how i feel. nothing is worth feeling shitty and messing up the body
not sure.. just feel a lot more tired lol. i think the rebound gyno is the issue more then getting it on cycle. I really didnt want to go the serm route. something about it worries me.
Maybe i will give the 11-oxo a few more days and see how i feel. read a bunch of people who ran it solo with...
also isnt epi andro just a test booster anyways?
I will look into it. Is epi-andro gonna cause any issues without a serm? Main concern is rebound gyno as I had issues with that when I was younger.
no serm on hand.. i was running the 11-oxo solo because from my research a serm was not necessary. I have the kings blood and rebirth on hand for pct as of now. With 11-oxo solo at the 600mg i just feel very tired. If I added in something like epi-andro I was curious if the serm was needed or...
so i decided to just run the 11-oxo solo. I am using cycle support and was going to run just an otc pct as all i have read said that 11-oxo was minimally supressive at doeses lower than 600mg. I have the kings blood and rebirth on hand. What are your guys thoughts? Also I am on day 3 and have...
I wish someone else would chime in because you have not answered any questions. I agree with you that all aas are surpressive and you will have less natural test and less estrogen. That is not my question. You have not given any suggestions on proper OCT or PCT.
If anyone else can give some...
I understand that. My research showed that 11-oxo was minimally suppressive and therefor an otc pct (kings blood + rebirth) would be sufficient. I am also taking my on cycle support to be safe on cycle. Do you disagree with this?
i have done alot of research on the 11-oxo and was under the impression that otc pct was more then enough at lower doses. I am also taking on cycle support with the protex. If this is not sufficient please let me know your thoughts.
I only ask about the epi andro and 4ad because it was...
My questions would then be what is proper PCT? I have the kingsblood and rebirth for PCT since from research 11-oxo only required a otc pct. Does adding in epiandro require a serm or additional pct?
is the dermacrine or 4-ad just for a test booster? I have Kings Blood on hand, should I stack with that? Will the test booster help with the lethargy though?
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