U can use them both. Winny can be used to cut "dry u out" and the clen seems to increase ur endurance while doing intense cardio, hence the weight loss. Together they make for a sweaty workout session. A lot of ppl use winny as a cutting cycle but in conjunction with clen t does a lot for weight...
Hi oak new to this whole forum thing so I thought I would share my personal experience with u. SWIM has been running clen since Jan with winny in 1 week cycles. In off week I do an Eca stack. I go to the gym at least 4-5 days a week doing 30-40 min of intense cardio and weight training. I try...
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