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Donald Trump running for president

Beau said:
Chicken or the egg?

Is what is going on coincidental to us having the weakest POTUS or ....

Because we have the weakest POTUS?

I choose answer 2.
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i'll go with answer #3--there are too many democrats that hate this country and everyone who loves this country.
 
I don't see how we will avoid going to war.
He is not stopping.

Not only do we have the weakest leader that has played a huge role in this bullshit.
Our citizens that voted the fookface in are weak! Hopefully this brings some light to democrats bullshit but idk.

The great el rushbo swore Americans need strife and struggles of war every 20 years or so to remind them who we are.

God I forgot about Yemen.
 
democrats call my religion a fantasy...well my belief is why i get up every morning and say how grateful i am for another day, and grateful to have my family around me, and grateful to have my health and the life i have, and grateful to live in the USA..as much bad, and evil as there is in this world i can still wake up each day and find so many things to be grateful for and i believe it is my faith in GOD that i can be grateful for so much even with so many reasons why i could just become a bitter old man.

i say the serenity prayer every morning, i highly recommend it.
 
Quest said:
I don't see how we will avoid going to war.
He is not stopping.

Not only do we have the weakest leader that has played a huge role in this bullshit.
Our citizens that voted the fookface in are weak! Hopefully this brings some light to democrats bullshit but idk.

The great el rushbo swore Americans need strife and struggles of war every 20 years or so to remind them who we are.

God I forgot about Yemen.
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It's astounding how easily liberal dems can turn a blind eye to Biden's role in all this. And I can be pretty sure the far left Marxist/Socialist camp is even worse...!!

Talking to a liberal lady here at work over lunch. She mocked the Trucker convoy and keystone pipeline. On the subject of Ukraine she said 'how can you blame Joe Biden for what Putin does' and 'tell me the same thing wouldn't have happened if Trump was still president'.

Clueless!!

My answer was that we KNOW it wouldn't have happened because while Trump was president for 4 years this sh1t DIDN'T happen!!! Jeeeez....

F'em all. Let them burn the whole damn thing to the ground with their incompetance and weak/woke green energy bullshit. Then rebuild without them...
 
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BamBam54 said:
It's astounding how easily liberal dems can turn a blind eye to Biden's role in all this. And I can be pretty sure the far left Marxist/Socialist camp is even worse...!!

Talking to a liberal lady here at work over lunch. She mocked the Trucker convoy and keystone pipeline. On the subject of Ukraine she said 'how can you blame Joe Biden for what Putin does' and 'tell me the same thing wouldn't have happened if Trump was still president'.

Clueless!!

My answer was that we KNOW it wouldn't have happened because while Trump was president for 4 years this sh1t DIDN'T happen!!! Jeeeez....

F'em all. Let them burn the whole thing damn thing to the ground with their incompetance and weak/woke green energy bullshit. Then rebuild without them...
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GOD did that once with the great flood, yet here we are again...
 
BamBam54 said:
Or maybe there was no godly great flood, and humans wiped themselves out as we appear very prone to do.... wash and repeat
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i will not push my belief on to you, but we can agree that there was a great flood that wiped out a lot of civilization-eh?

a lot of historians use the Bible as reference.
 
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thebigt said:
i will not push my belief on to you, but we can agree that there was a great flood that wiped out a lot of civilization-eh?

a lot of historians use the Bible as reference.
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I am not a Bible guy, myself. But more power to ya - BigT! If nothing else, it seems like a very good moral compass.

I have read the bible but too many things make no logical sense to me. They lost me at Noah being 800 years old. 😉

I read the Koran to see what that was all about, and it was a tough slog. Couple of amusing things I stumbled across though.

And scientology? Ooofa!

So many religions all fighting over who is right but never accepting that the others must be wrong.... other than it can't be them. 😀

If anything, I am more of a Zen philosophy guy, non-religious.
 
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if putin were smart he would set up anti-aircraft weapon systems at the kaliningrad enclave which borders poland and shoot down those fighter jets once they cross ukrainian border--geez, i can't believe they are advertising military strategies out in the open:unsure:

there has been something really 'OFF" about this 'WAR' from the start, imo.
 
BamBam54 said:
That's good news for the Ukranians!

Possibly bad news for life continuing on earth if Russia decides to send missile strikes into Poland as retaliation.

But at this point, I am thinking we draw some cards and ante up!
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My best hope is Russia just realizes they can’t “win” or afford to keep the war going and ends asap.
 
during the build up to this 'WAR' why didn't putin have anti-aircraft systems in place and at the onset shoot down ukrainian air force?

putin has satellites and missiles, why didn't he knock out all of the anti-aircraft systems the ukrainians had in place and gain air dominance from the start much like we did with iraq?

we are advertising giving ukraine weapons, why doesn't putin lock down the borders and prevent these weapons from getting thru--here again putin has satellites and could monitor movements?

and lastly, why the hell are we advertising every move we are making?
 
thebigt said:
if putin were smart he would set up anti-aircraft weapon systems at the kaliningrad enclave which borders poland and shoot down those fighter jets once they cross ukrainian border--geez, i can't believe they are advertising military strategies out in the open:unsure:

there has been something really 'OFF" about this 'WAR' from the start, imo.
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There probably also is a lot we don’t know and they are simply using this just a a distraction (not that it won’t help) but this is just a wild guess.
 
thebigt said:
during the build up to this 'WAR' why didn't putin have anti-aircraft systems in place and at the onset shoot down ukrainian air force?

putin has satellites and missiles, why didn't he knock out all of the anti-aircraft systems the ukrainians had in place and gain air dominance from the start much like we did with iraq?

we are advertising giving ukraine weapons, why doesn't putin lock down the borders and prevent these weapons from getting thru--here again putin has satellites and could monitor movements?

and lastly, why the hell are we advertising every move we are making?
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Maybe he does, as of now they haven’t needed much of that but we will see what happens.
 
ax1 said:
My best hope is Russia just realizes they can’t “win” or afford to keep the war going and ends asap.
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i have read that if putin 'loses' this war he is done and his future is not very bright....the biggest fear that I and hopefully those in power have is that putin decides to take as many with him as he can...

they should not be saying this openly, but hopefully we have better people than john kerry and blinken who are talking with russian generals to 'Remove' putin...the russian people are very much against this war and there has to be generals who see the destruction putin is causing the russian people and their country as a whole.
 
thebigt said:
i have read that if putin 'loses' this war he is done and his future is not very bright....the biggest fear that I and hopefully those in power have is that putin decides to take as many with him as he can...

they should not be saying this openly, but hopefully we have better people than john kerry and blinken who are talking with russian generals to 'Remove' putin...the russian people are very much against this war and there has to be generals who see the destruction putin is causing the russian people and their country as a whole.
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He could be replaced with someone worse. We dunno. Lots of dictators have held on to power with losing wars so we can just guess at this point.
 
ax1 said:
Maybe he does, as of now they haven’t needed much of that but we will see what happens.
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there have been reports of several russian planes and helicopters being shot down...how many planes did we lose when we took iraq?
 
thebigt said:
there have been reports of several russian planes and helicopters being shot down...how many planes did we lose when we took iraq?
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Ukrainians were better equipped and trained by the west, they have built up their military for years now and were the 22nd or 24th strongest in the world.

Iraq was almost nothing in a terrible economic state. Plus the US is far more advanced than Russia.
 
ax1 said:
He could be replaced with someone worse. We dunno. Lots of dictators have held on to power with losing wars.
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do you think that is what the allies thought when they plotted for hitlers removal?
c'mon man... :geek:
 
thebigt said:
do you think that is what the allies thought when they plotted for hitlers removal?
c'mon man... :geek:
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Also we plotted the removal of many dictators and put in worse ourselves such as Saddam Hussein.
 
ax1 said:
Ukrainians were better equipped and trained by the west, they have built up their military for years now and were the 22nd or 24th strongest in the world.

Iraq was almost nothing in a terrible economic state. Plus the US is far more advanced than Russia.
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saddams military was 4th in the world, but morale was poor--biden should take a note.
 
ax1 said:
Also we plotted the removal of many dictators and put in worse ourselves such as Saddam Hussein.
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russia has in place elections...with the removal of putin by russians i fully believe they would vote for a completely different kind of government than what they have had under putin.

i would hope we would have minimal involvement in this process.
 
thebigt said:
saddams military was 4th in the world, but morale was poor--biden should take a note.
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Also, most importantly in regards to Russia, Putin was put in by Boris Yelten with the backing of Bill Clinton. Look where that ended up today.

So thats what I mean, he could be replaced with someone worse, but you would need a real puppet who bends over to the west because I am unsure how many in Russia can survive politically and watch NATO expand powers at their borders.
 
thebigt said:
are you saying that attempting to remove hitler was a bad thing?
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Thats a different unique situation vs. Iraq, so no its not a bad thing at all....lets put it like this, if I can travel in a time machine and I came across baby Hitler I think I would consider pulling the trigger myself.
 
ax1 said:
Also, most importantly in regards to Russia, Putin was put in by Boris Yelten with the backing of Bill Clinton. Look where that ended up today.

So thats what I mean, he could be replaced with someone worse, but you would need a real puppet who bends over to the west because I am unsure how many in Russia can survive politically and watch NATO expand powers at their borders.
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i really sympathize with the russian people, they are going to be fucked for a really long time...this much i know is true.
 
ax1 said:
Thats a different unique situation vs. Iraq, so no its not a bad thing at all....lets put it like this, if I can travel in a time machine and I came across baby Hitler I think I would consider pulling the trigger myself.
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we were talking about putin you were the one who diverted to saddam and iraq...what about putin?
 
thebigt said:
we were talking about putin you were the one who diverted to saddam and iraq...what about putin?
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I meant it as in we cant assume that if Putin gets replaced that we will end up with something better. As after all, Putin was approved by the White House to have him put in power.
 
thebigt said:
i really sympathize with the russian people, they are going to be fucked for a really long time...this much i know is true.
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They are for sure, they are paying and going to pay a heavier price for decisions of a genocidal mass murdering dictator. Its not fair.
 
thebigt said:
during the build up to this 'WAR' why didn't putin have anti-aircraft systems in place and at the onset shoot down ukrainian air force?

putin has satellites and missiles, why didn't he knock out all of the anti-aircraft systems the ukrainians had in place and gain air dominance from the start much like we did with iraq?

we are advertising giving ukraine weapons, why doesn't putin lock down the borders and prevent these weapons from getting thru--here again putin has satellites and could monitor movements?

and lastly, why the hell are we advertising every move we are making?
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Yeah, gotta wonder about this. And also how slowly these giant russian armored convoys have moved to battle positions.

Maybe modern Russia is good with tech like ballistic missiles and jets.... but their troops are not well trained or disciplined to push to contact. Unable or unwilling to penetrate deep into Ukraine or quickly envelope cities. Maybe a paper tiger other than missiles??

In Iraq the US fought the 4th largest army at the time (though not high tech) and destroyed them quickly. Look up the Battle of 73 Easting for some amazing real history!
 
BamBam54 said:
Yeah, gotta wonder about this. And also how slowly these giant russian armored convoys have moved to battle positions.

Maybe modern Russia is good with tech like ballistic missiles and jets.... but their troops are not well trained or disciplined to push to contact. Unable or unwilling to penetrate deep into Ukraine or quickly envelope cities. Maybe a paper tiger other than missiles??

In Iraq the US fought the 4th largest army at the time (though not high tech) and destroyed them quickly. Look up the Battle of 73 Easting for some amazing real history!
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You also have to wonder how easy it is for Russians to blow up other Russians, and Ukrainians who seem to be like their cousins.

Its hard to imagine there arent alot of troops who may have family in Ukraine or knows another who does.
 
BamBam54 said:
Yeah, gotta wonder about this. And also how slowly these giant russian armored convoys have moved to battle positions.

Maybe modern Russia is good with tech like ballistic missiles and jets.... but their troops are not well trained or disciplined to push to contact. Unable or unwilling to penetrate deep into Ukraine or quickly envelope cities. Maybe a paper tiger other than missiles??

In Iraq the US fought the 4th largest army at the time (though not high tech) and destroyed them quickly. Look up the Battle of 73 Easting for some amazing real history!
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Just to add...

I saw this one video of a captured Russian soldier and he was like, "I grew up watching the Klitchkos fight, and Lomachenko and Usyk I watch them on TV all the time!"
 
BamBam54 said:
Yeah, gotta wonder about this. And also how slowly these giant russian armored convoys have moved to battle positions.

Maybe modern Russia is good with tech like ballistic missiles and jets.... but their troops are not well trained or disciplined to push to contact. Unable or unwilling to penetrate deep into Ukraine or quickly envelope cities. Maybe a paper tiger other than missiles??

In Iraq the US fought the 4th largest army at the time (though not high tech) and destroyed them quickly. Look up the Battle of 73 Easting for some amazing real history!
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taking all of this into context, it begs the question of why haven't the russians been playing to their strengths rather than to their weakness?
it is almost as if the generals in charge of strategy are stategizing for loss rather than win, imo.

i don't know, i am just some old uneducated hick in indiana---but something just smells like fish that's been out in the sun too long.
 
ax1 said:
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I saw this one video of a captured Russian soldier and he was like, "I grew up watching the Klitchkos fight, and Lomachenko and Usyk I watch them on TV all the time!"
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interesting...but brothers fought brothers in the civil war....just sayin :)
 
can't believe starbucks suspends business in russia...i thought communist's stuck together-eh bernie?
 
thebigt said:
can't believe starbucks suspends business in russia...i thought communist's stuck together-eh bernie?
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I found out McDonalds will continue to pay all their workers which is nice, I wonder how long they can maintain that though.
 
'WE WERE DECEIVED'

i see putin is taking hits from russian moms who accuse him of using their sons as 'cannon fodder', putin is done, imo....either he is taken out or we have to give him a exit strategy.

they say putin is very paranoid, i hope he doesn't get desperate enough to think he has no way out of this mess and does something truly evil....hopefully the russians have some checks on their nukes and orders could be disobeyed?
 
why is it that every place he has bombed has a US bioweapons lab ?? there aparently is a growing support for putin because he is killing the Nazis and burning down the US backed biolabs. He released a statement that he would quit his advance if NATO quits pushin towards his borders, & ukraine has to recognise the 3 countries he liberated.

thats sounds fine to me. 🤷‍♂️
 
xR1pp3Rx said:
why is it that every place he has bombed has a US bioweapons lab ?? there aparently is a growing support for putin because he is killing the Nazis and burning down the US backed biolabs. He released a statement that he would quit his advance if NATO quits pushin towards his borders, & ukraine has to recognise the 3 countries he liberated.

thats sounds fine to me. 🤷‍♂️
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But how I is gonna get my vaxxxxx?!?!
 
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