Hyde’s Strength Odyssey

11/24/21

7 min cycle
Bird Dogs
Side Planks
Bear Crawl & Push-ups
Band Pressdown & Facepulls

Bench
45x10,5
95x5
145x3
195 4x1
245x1
+Phoenix slanger
255 2x10

SSB JM Press
190 2x10

Band Pressdown
Light x100

Band Flyes
Light x100

Seated DB Rear Delt Flyes
30 2x15

Only ate about 3k calories yesterday and boy did I feel it today. Glad it was a deload!
 
SkRaw85 said:
Lookin good man! 240, sheesh, gimme some!
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I think it’s going to keep going. Bumping test e from 420mg last week to 480mg this week. Next week is singles week and I plan to try out a 25mg shot of TNE oil preWO for one session and 25mg Anadrol tabs sublingually for another couple (so 555 total mg).

I’m also introducing 15mg Mk677 per day tomorrow, and CJC with DAC at 1mg every 5 nights for the next 3 weeks. That could make for some solid bloat.

Exemestane has been added at 11mg a couple times per week as of last week.
 
11/25/21

7 min cycle
Bird Dogs
Side Planks

Squat
45x a bajillion sets
135x3
225x2
275,295,315,335,355x1

Could not get straight bar squatting to feel right/balanced, and everything felt insanely heavy. 405 would have likely been a competition effort yesterday. It’s a deload, I feel beat up, & I’m testing my lifts next week, so I shut it down and skipped speed pulls, trapbar work & step-ups. Really disheartening to feel this weak at this bodyweight, but I hope it’s just fatigue from Legpress Monday.

Carditone ran out after Sunday and bp was 130/70 resting Wednesday. Heart rate has felt really jacked up in training from Tuesday on, so I began 20mg Telmisartan/night as of Wednesday.

Began Mk677 at 15 last night and pinned 1mg CJC w/ DAC subq this morning.
 
11/28/21

10 min walk

Reverse Pec Deck
70x10
100,120x20
140x13

alt w/ Pec Deck
100,120,140x20
160x16

Preacher Curl Machine
40x20
60x12, 8 - drop - 40x6

Widegrip Pulldown
110, 143, 165x15
165x12

alt w/ Rope Tricep Pressdown
33x25
44x20
55x15
66x8

Seated DB Press
35,45x20
55x17

10 min walk
Stretching/mobility

A great bloodflow session. Got a good pump, got some LISS in, left better than I entered. Very light, fluffy legs in the morning before testing later this week.

I was looking at a meet mid March, the week after the Arnold, but I’ve decided to focus on continuing to build my base back this blast. I need to just keep stringing together progressive, productive training and steadily rebuild. I’m not in a position to make a run at lifetime PRs this spring, but I could this summer if I do the work now.
 
11/29/21
BW 240.4

10 min walk
McGill Big 3

GHR
3x15

Cable Legpress
100,200,260x20

Glute Kickback Machine
140x20/leg

Back Extension on GHD
2x15

Good Girls
50x20
100 2x12

10 min walk

Easy bloodflow session as I’m testing bench Wednesday morning and Squat & Pull Thursday night.

Bought a Vulcan GHD - at $570 shipped for Black Friday, it’s much cheaper than basically everything but REP or Titan (which haven’t been in stock forever), and the Facebook market here has been void. It also has all of the features we want (split pads, band pegs, footsteps, length AND height adjustments, wheels). Did some measuring and we should be able to finagle it into the garage. I have wanted one for home for 6 years, more than any other machine, so it’s time to make it happen!
 
Cycle Update:

-Test E this week stays at 480mg
-Added Deca at 150mg/wk today
-Pinned 1mg of CJC w/ DAC again today (Day 6 of Mk677/CJC combo)
-Will NOT be using TNE
-Still going to test preWO Anadrol @25mg

There’s lots of ways the next 10 weeks can go, but generally speaking the focus is on driving basal (not acute) strength and size.
 
Hyde said:
Cycle Update:

-Test E this week stays at 480mg
-Added Deca at 150mg/wk today
-Pinned 1mg of CJC w/ DAC again today (Day 6 of Mk677/CJC combo)
-Will NOT be using TNE
-Still going to test preWO Anadrol @25mg

There’s lots of ways the next 10 weeks can go, but generally speaking the focus is on driving basal (not acute) strength and size.
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Im surprised your cycles are very low doses? Have you always been a low dose guy?
 
Mathb33 said:
Im surprised your cycles are very low doses? Have you always been a low dose guy?
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I have used a lot of orals in the past, so if you add that stuff up I think I tend to start getting strong results around the 900+ total weekly mg range (counting orals). But the highest I’ve ever run Test was 400mg, & I would like to push that up some and gauge sides/gains. Still doing some anabolic mapping really.

Adding the low-dose deca for joint support over winter and some extra water size since the vial is open & needs used. I know I like Masteron (but I’m out). EQ is a no-go as it crashes my E2 while giving me gyno aggravation and jacked up blood values just at 120mg. Tren I get lots of sides but great effect at low doses. I am very sensitive to 19-Nors but grow well from them too.

This run isn’t going to lead to contest, so I am just experimenting anabolic-wise and trying to raise my overall base of strength/size. I am thinking of adding 100mg either of DHB or Tren E in a couple weeks.
 
Hyde said:
I have used a lot of orals in the past, so if you add that stuff up I think I tend to start getting strong results around the 900+ total weekly mg range (counting orals). But the highest I’ve ever run Test was 400mg, & I would like to push that up some and gauge sides/gains. Still doing some anabolic mapping really.

Adding the low-dose deca for joint support over winter and some extra water size since the vial is open & needs used. I know I like Masteron (but I’m out). EQ is a no-go as it crashes my E2 while giving me gyno aggravation and jacked up blood values just at 120mg. Tren I get lots of sides but great effect at low doses. I am very sensitive to 19-Nors but grow well from them too.

This run isn’t going to lead to contest, so I am just experimenting anabolic-wise and trying to raise my overall base of strength/size. I am thinking of adding 100mg either of DHB or Tren E in a couple weeks.
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Forgot you’re fairly "new" to injectables and all. Powerlifting relies a lot on drugs maybe more so than bodybuilding... I’ve never seen a competing powerlifter / strongman use less than a gram of test or at least close to it. Extremely extremely beneficial for strength and general extra water. If I was you I’d be tempted to use more test even if I needed to drop some mgs of other stuff. You really haven’t even experienced test yet if you have never used more than 400.
 
Mathb33 said:
Forgot you’re fairly "new" to injectables and all. Powerlifting relies a lot on drugs maybe more so than bodybuilding... I’ve never seen a competing powerlifter / strongman use less than a gram of test or at least close to it. Extremely extremely beneficial for strength and general extra water. If I was you I’d be tempted to use more test even if I needed to drop some mgs of other stuff. You really haven’t even experienced test yet if you have never used more than 400.
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I agree with almost all of that, except the reliance part - there are NO natural IFBB Pros due to the necessary look, but there have been pro strongmen and world level powerlifters who were/are (that’s genetics for you). But the abuse can be just as extreme, 5-10 grams/wk and such, huge doses of test & tren, orals that aren’t even measured - just swallowed by the handful. You hear it all.

So my thoughts are to keep creeping the test up for now as I spend time getting back to squatting and pulling after back injury.
 
12/1/21
BW 245.4

7 min cycle
Bird Dogs
Side Planks
Push-ups
Band Pullaparts, Rows, Tri Pressdown

Bench, paused
45x10
45,95,135,185,235,275,315x1
335x1 RPE9
345x1 RPE9.5

Pulled off a nice ~5lb bloat from yesterday for today’s testing, & it paid out: everything in preparation today felt 10/10, ready to rock, banging on all cylinders hard. Left a little in the tank per the program, but I am confident I could have benched 355-360 today.

Not sure if it was the 25mg Anadrol tab administered sublingually an hour prior or just a combination of all of my preparation, but I felt incredibly locked in mentally! Really enjoyed my experience.
 
12/2/21
BW 244.0

15 min walk
Bird Dogs
Side Planks
Jumps
Hanging Leg Raise
Pullaparts

Squat
45 2x5
135,225,275,325x1
+belt
365, 405, 435x1
455x1 RPE9

Sumo, deadlift bar, hookgrip
245,335,425x1
+belt
475, 505x1
525x1 RPE9.5

Satisfied with my testing: squat 80lbs over the heaviest squat I touched the last 10 weeks & pulled 70lbs more, while still staying around RPE9. Couldn’t even use any ammonia: belt was set too tight on 405 and shot a big jet of blood out my nose! 🩸

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Hyde said:
12/2/21
BW 244.0

15 min walk
Bird Dogs
Side Planks
Jumps
Hanging Leg Raise
Pullaparts

Squat
45 2x5
135,225,275,325x1
+belt
365, 405, 435x1
455x1 RPE9

Sumo, deadlift bar, hookgrip
245,335,425x1
+belt
475, 505x1
525x1 RPE9.5

Satisfied with my testing: squat 80lbs over the heaviest squat I touched the last 10 weeks & pulled 70lbs more, while still staying around RPE9. Couldn’t even use any ammonia: belt was set too tight on 405 and shot a big jet of blood out my nose! 🩸

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Nice spray! Anadrol doesn’t help with that either lol
 
SkRaw85 said:
Nice spray! Anadrol doesn’t help with that either lol
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Lol as soon as I latched it I knew it was way too tight & I needed to bump it out a notch to account for the bloat (I have to do this every contest after a loading day), but I said, “screw it - I’ll fix it after this rep.” 405 was fast & smooth, but the pressure when I hit the bottom felt just like being in single-ply.
 
Btw, Supreme’s Mk677 is LEGIT. Switched to 20mg from them yesterday morning as I finished off the Aggressive 15mg caps I had; my hunger today & yesterday is just wild.
 
Man, it’s incredible through the years where your strength has gone. Awesome to watch the progress!
 
tyga tyga said:
Man, it’s incredible through the years where your strength has gone. Awesome to watch the progress!
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Up, down, and all-around! Never a straight path on this road.

Thank you; I’m glad to see you around and prospering. You’re good people. There aren’t any Cheesecake Factories around here - it would be nice to be there again with you!
 
Hyde said:
12/2/21
BW 244.0

15 min walk
Bird Dogs
Side Planks
Jumps
Hanging Leg Raise
Pullaparts

Squat
45 2x5
135,225,275,325x1
+belt
365, 405, 435x1
455x1 RPE9

Sumo, deadlift bar, hookgrip
245,335,425x1
+belt
475, 505x1
525x1 RPE9.5

Satisfied with my testing: squat 80lbs over the heaviest squat I touched the last 10 weeks & pulled 70lbs more, while still staying around RPE9. Couldn’t even use any ammonia: belt was set too tight on 405 and shot a big jet of blood out my nose! 🩸

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damn! Was it scary? Happened anytime before?
 
jtmass said:
damn! Was it scary? Happened anytime before?
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No, it happened as soon as I was firing back out of the hole - almost like a rocket shooting sparks at blast off I thought it had been snot at first because I have a cold from my son again, but I felt that fast warm trickle and blocked it with my hand while I got a paper towel from the work bench.

I have only ever had nosebleeds while on RAD140 I believe. Something about that drug increases them for me, independent of blood pressure very likely. But this time had to be pressure from the belt.
 
Hyde said:
No, it happened as soon as I was firing back out of the hole - almost like a rocket shooting sparks at blast off I thought it had been snot at first because I have a cold from my son again, but I felt that fast warm trickle and blocked it with my hand while I got a paper towel from the work bench.

I have only ever had nosebleeds while on RAD140 I believe. Something about that drug increases them for me, independent of blood pressure very likely. But this time had to be pressure from the belt.
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Rad is synonymous with nosebleeds for me too. Anadrol has gotten me close before, but not so early in to it.
 
jtmass said:
Is there a meet you're aiming at?
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Not currently. I was considering one around mid February to March, but I’ve decided I just need to focus on getting stronger first. I’m not in a place to really do anything I’d care about at a competition yet.
 
12/4/21
BW 246.0

5 min walk

Reverse Pec Deck
80,110,140x15
160 2x12

alt w/ Pec Deck
80,110x15
140,180x12
220x15,12

Seated DB Press
50x15

Standing Strict Press
45 3x5
95,125,145,165,185x5

Plate-loaded Vertical Row
55,90x10
135x10,8

DB Lateral Raises
30 3x15

Hammercurls
30x20
35x15
40x12

Can definitely feel the strength kicking in; you know it’s happened when all the little things get easier. Found myself just repping the stack on pec deck despite almost no rest between supersets - which btw, is a testament to how silly they build some of these machines to make the user feel good about loading them up. It’s not like I would actually use 50kg dbs for pec flyes!

Also, taught a kid who was truly unhappy with his squat depth how to rebuild his squat to where he wants it, and helped another random kid who wanted to borrow my belt for his deadlift go on to hit 455 for a 30lb PR. It’s the little things in life
 
This morning was supposed to be lower accessory day, but woke up still hacking & blowing yellow gunk that has been building for a week (last Thursday morning I officially had green snot from my lungs). I made it through testing at the end of the training cycle, but since I’m about to start a new one I decided to rest up vs drag this out harder.

Pinned 650mg glutathione IM before bed with subq carnitine to drive it last night, and continued to sleep in and got 10 hours rest.
 
This is a half-hour training video, but I felt there was some truly excellent explanation throughout about what Shane is doing and why. A ton of details that really align with my own opinions on proper training for strength. A very good watch if you have time during a meal or whatnot:

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Good talk about movement preparation, skill acquisition, injury prevention. Guy competes at 198 and gunning for a 396lb axle press and 264lb db press.
 
12/8/21

7 min cycle
Bird Dogs
Side Planks
Band Pullaparts, Tri Pressdown

Bench
45,95,145,185,235,255,265,275,285x5

CG 2-Board
235,245x12

Fat DB Incline Bench
85 3x12 yeah buddy

Push-ups
2x25

alt w/ Seated DB Rear Delt Flyes
35 2x12

Incredibly pumped after this, especially my chest & front delts. Used 10mg Dbol preWO & nothing bad to say there either - felt very strong. A great way to kick off the next 10-week training cycle.

Making some dietary changes; I have not been getting optimal protein consumption IMO. Maybe 210-250g generally, & I think for someone trying to grow on AAS that’s probably leaving potential on the table. Furthermore, eating so little let’s me get away with inferior food choices that are making me fatter faster than necessary. Yesterday I got in ~320g protein by focusing on that, and it made for a much more sound diet.
 
Hyde said:
12/8/21

7 min cycle
Bird Dogs
Side Planks
Band Pullaparts, Tri Pressdown

Bench
45,95,145,185,235,255,265,275,285x5

CG 2-Board
235,245x12

Fat DB Incline Bench
85 3x12 yeah buddy

Push-ups
2x25

alt w/ Seated DB Rear Delt Flyes
35 2x12

Incredibly pumped after this, especially my chest & front delts. Used 10mg Dbol preWO & nothing bad to say there either - felt very strong. A great way to kick off the next 10-week training cycle.

Making some dietary changes; I have not been getting optimal protein consumption IMO. Maybe 210-250g generally, & I think for someone trying to grow on AAS that’s probably leaving potential on the table. Furthermore, eating so little let’s me get away with inferior food choices that are making me fatter faster than necessary. Yesterday I got in ~320g protein by focusing on that, and it made for a much more sound diet.
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How did you achieve 320g protein? Lots of whey?

I feel I need to do the same but honestly struggling to get the food in. Summer + tren is making it difficult to eat.
 
BennyMagoo79 said:
How did you achieve 320g protein? Lots of whey?

I feel I need to do the same but honestly struggling to get the food in. Summer + tren is making it difficult to eat.
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Supplementation, getting 5 feedings in, and eating a bit more meat than I’d prefer/have been. Yesterday, which had no training, was:

11am -2 cups shredded wheat in: 10g collagen, 8oz skim milk, 4 oz water, 1 heaping scoop each of chocolate whey iso & beef iso

2:30pm - 2 McDonald’s double cheeseburgers & a chocolate protein bar (on the way home from grocery)

5pm - 1 can ravioli & 1 jumbo can of drained tuna, 3 Chips Ahoy cookies

7:30pm - 8oz or so delmonte steak, 1 cup peas, 3 small golden potatoes (about 1 baked potato’s size in total)

9:30pm- 6.5oz roast beef lunch meat, 1 slice cheddar cheese

I forgot to count the potatoes and peas, so it might be more like 330g, but it’s not an exact science.
 
Hyde said:
Supplementation, getting 5 feedings in, and eating a bit more meat than I’d prefer/have been. Yesterday, which had no training, was:

11am -2 cups shredded wheat in: 10g collagen, 8oz skim milk, 4 oz water, 1 heaping scoop each of chocolate whey iso & beef iso

2:30pm - 2 McDonald’s double cheeseburgers & a chocolate protein bar (on the way home from grocery)

5pm - 1 can ravioli & 1 jumbo can of drained tuna, 3 Chips Ahoy cookies

7:30pm - 8oz or so delmonte steak, 1 cup peas, 3 small golden potatoes (about 1 baked potato’s size in total)

9:30pm- 6.5oz roast beef lunch meat, 1 slice cheddar cheese

I forgot to count the potatoes and peas, so it might be more like 330g, but it’s not an exact science.
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What's your take on collagen? I take it, 20g of protein every morning in my coffee. I take it more for the multiple health benefits like joins. although I guess anti aging isn't bad as well as I close in on 40. My wife who is ten years older than me takes it as well and feels it's great for her hair and nails. I do feel like my nails are growing annoyingly fast now.

Reason I ask is because Layne Norton I think (I think it was Layne) pointed out it's not a complete protein. Sometimes I wonder if I'm wasting my time with incomplete proteins when I'm tracking macros.
 
Dustin07 said:
What's your take on collagen? I take it, 20g of protein every morning in my coffee. I take it more for the multiple health benefits like joins. although I guess anti aging isn't bad as well as I close in on 40. My wife who is ten years older than me takes it as well and feels it's great for her hair and nails. I do feel like my nails are growing annoyingly fast now.

Reason I ask is because Layne Norton I think (I think it was Layne) pointed out it's not a complete protein. Sometimes I wonder if I'm wasting my time with incomplete proteins when I'm tracking macros.
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It is incomplete, but the body breaks down all protein sources for contribution to the amino acid pool - so if you are consuming sufficient other proteins within reasonable proximity, more of the incomplete sources can be utilized.

So 20g in your coffee with no meal for hours, idk if that will get used at all. But if you have that with a plate of eggs, a bowl of cottage cheese, a steak or a shake, I would count it.

It definitely sped my nail growth up, but I was told to take it by older strongmen when my bicep tore off and have continued it now for almost 3 years for my connective tissue. I mentioned it to my barber, who recommends it now to clients who are thinning/shedding, especially women, and he said beyond a shadow of a doubt it did help their hair growth.

It’s a supplement, and it works.
 
Hyde said:
It is incomplete, but the body breaks down all protein sources for contribution to the amino acid pool - so if you are consuming sufficient other proteins within reasonable proximity, more of the incomplete sources can be utilized.

So 20g in your coffee with no meal for hours, idk if that will get used at all. But if you have that with a plate of eggs, a bowl of cottage cheese, a steak or a shake, I would count it.

It definitely sped my nail growth up, but I was told to take it by older strongmen when my bicep tore off and have continued it now for almost 3 years for my connective tissue. I mentioned it to my barber, who recommends it now to clients who are thinning/shedding, especially women, and he said beyond a shadow of a doubt it did help their hair growth.

It’s a supplement, and it works.
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Awesome to hear that, I agree on all accounts. Mostly I justify it to myself for as you mentioned connective tissue and joints, although the other antiaging aspects are also great. Coincidentally enough, I have that first cup of coffee every day with eggs and a carb lol. I also agree on the hair aspect, my wife has been on it for around a year now and she's the second woman I know to swear by it. I am also going through more back razor blades now ha.
 
For some reason I don't ever get updates on this thread anymore, so hopefully me posting this makes me get the alerts lol
 
Smont said:
For some reason I don't ever get updates on this thread anymore, so hopefully me posting this makes me get the alerts lol
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Catch Up: on 510 test / 150 deca with 20mg Mk677 daily & 1mg CJC w/ DAC e5d atm; getting stronger again & gaining weight (246lbs). On my 3rd cold in 2 months because my son goes to daycare now. Last week I hit 345/455/525 squat/bench/dead leaving a little in the tank on each.
 
12/9/21
BW 246.0

5 min cycle
Bird Dogs
Side Planks

SSB Squat
BW,60,150,240,290x5
+belt
330,355x5

Sumo, deadlift bar, beltless
135,225,315x5
+thumbstraps
345,375,415x5

This took all my will to get through; I was so gassed I skipped accessories & just left the bar loaded after. Still, 15lbs on my squat & 20 on deadlift from 5 weeks ago.

All of our colds seemed to be winding down, but 2 kids at my son’s daycare tested positive for RSV Tuesday. Now it seems like my son & myself probably have it - we were obviously sicker today & now with RSV symptoms. My GHR arrived, but I didn’t have the energy to assemble it.

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Oh also, this is cool: had the wife pull 315 yesterday morning pretty smoothly since her estimated max is around 325. 35lbs more than the most she’s pulled since having the baby! She’s putting in the work and getting it back.
 
Hyde said:
Oh also, this is cool: had the wife pull 315 yesterday morning pretty smoothly since her estimated max is around 325. 35lbs more than the most she’s pulled since having the baby! She’s putting in the work and getting it back.
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That's pretty awesome!
 
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This Vulcan GHD is awesome. Truly sturdy build quality, very easy to assemble, impeccable packaging for safe transport, and they thought the ergonomics out well (split pads to clear your package, adjustable band pegs & handles, double adjustable foot pads, wheels). Footprint is very respectable for something to do glute-ham raises, back extensions, weighted situps, and preacher curls.

It just feels great! Worth the $570 shipped.
 
12/12/21
BW 247.0

7 min walk
Bird Dogs
Side Planks

Chest Supported Row
45x13
90x8
115x5
140x6+4+3 rest pause

Fatbar Pulldowns
165x15
187x12
209x8

CG Seated Low Cable Row
143x15
187x13
209x10

Rear Delt Deck
120x12
130x10,15

alt w/ Pec Deck
130,170x15
220x20

EZBar Curls
50x15
70,80x10

Reverse EZBar Curls
50 2x10

Bumper Plate Pinch Walks
45x 2 trips to failure

Saw a tissue specialist with the wife tonight after training to take a look at the position imbalances I’ve been having when trying to strict press. She checked all my rom, looked for any tissue issues or red flags, & nothing seems screwed up. My left side back musculature is a little bit bigger, but I’m left-handed. So that was a big relief. We think it’s probably just a preparation/mobility thing - very glad to have gotten an educated set of eyes & hands on things for an opinion instead of ignoring something that could have been a major problem down the road.

Also, took 10mg Dbol before this and the pump was so insane I couldn’t really do my curls 🤯
 
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