dixonk
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Our government runs the VA. I wouldn’t wish that system on anyone. If anyone can figure out a way to bloat something, make it expensive, inefficient, and all around awful to use, it’s the United States government.
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Our government runs the VA. I wouldn’t wish that system on anyone. If anyone can figure out a way to bloat something, make it expensive, inefficient, and all around awful to use, it’s the United States government.
Jiigzz
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Getting raped is acting irresponsible? Contraception failing is acting irresponsible?
An underage teen who made a misjudgment is acting irresponsible? Women bear all the responsibility if any if the above happens that results in conception. The man just just wipe his hands and move on. If you are willing to say abortion is not an option, then an option you should be for is mandatory vasectomies for all males until they are ready.
But of course, people would protest that and just say "well women just shouldnt get pregnant". Takes 2 to make a baby. Both should sacrifice something.
Very shortsighted argument. Not all pregnancies are the consequence of irresponsible behaviour, nor should anyone be passed a lifelong sentence for caring for a child they dont actually want.
I'm for abortions where the person was raped, sexually assaulted or something similar.
I'd prefer adoptions for children who were conceived out of 'irresponsibility', as you call it, but i can also appreciate the fact you actually have to carry a child for 9 months that isnt wanted.
Late stage abortions I'm not a fan of, but again, I'm not a female so me being against it is also knowing it cannot happen to me.
Jiigzz
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How sure are you of this? Obama left the Presidency with the Dow Jones trending upward. Trump rode the upward trend into his presidency then took credit for it. Invalid Link RemovedInvalid Link Removed
dixonk
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I’m having a **** ass day right now and rather than go around in circles chasing every what if scenario with you, I’m gonna walk away from this topic. I will leave the argument on abortion at that. Nobody’s opinion will be changed on this issue.
thebigt
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2008 i was laid off from my longtime, well paying job, lost my insurance and my ira took a massive hit when stock market crashed-had to cash in my retirement plan with a huge penalty and then had to pay taxes on what i did get at end of year-i was financially ruined...should i blame obama?
thebigt
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i can personally say that the VA has improved immensely since trump has been president, it suckedass under obama.
manifesto
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Who is going to pay for universal healthcare?
thebigt
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people who have jobs!!!
dixonk
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We all will get to pay for the bad life choices of fat people and smokers.
thebigt
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and bums with no jobs.
Jiigzz
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Fair point, haha.
Jiigzz
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That's fair, I hope your day improves
ax1
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That 15% is based off of polling threshholds, not "votes" its easy to have those numbers tweaked.
The reason you want the debate is so these minority parties and dependents can have their perspective's heard on a national stage and against the big 2. As of now, we already heard everything and anything you would want from the big 2, so of course its not going to change your mind or 99% of the rest of the population, its really a waste of time as is if you ask me.
Whats important for the election is the measly 5% threshold as that is where you get automatic ballot access and matching Federal funds. 2016 Gary Johnson received 4,489,233 total votes and 3.27% of the national vote,Invalid Link Removed and that was the best performing election ever for the L party, there were more than a handful of states that passed the 5% and that is meaningful there as well.
What I propose to you is go ahead vote for Dump, but look over your local election ballots before hand, look for any "L" options and research them. There was an election in my area last year that had a "L" for District Attorney and he won a very close election, they had a recount but he barely won. There are "L's" running on local ballots all across the country.
The realistic outcome Id say in 10 years is that we will have at least a couple of representatives in the house and possibly a senate seat or 2. Its a real growing movement, Id think after these massive CCP-Virus shutdowns people are more apt to prop up freedom, liberty and the power of the individual over the state.
dixonk
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Half a box of Girl Scout cookies still hasn’t managed to. Let me knock out the other half and get back to you.
ax1
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Because they already stepped towards the direction of Universal Healthcare under Obobo and it was a disaster. All he did was take lobby money, lie to people and hand over the insurance companies millions of new customers via gunpoint and steal everybody else's tax dollars.
We need free market health care back in the USA, we havent had it in over 60 years and with ll the money and more government interference thrown into it, its become an utter expensive disaster and the last thing we need is more government intrusion.
thebigt
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2grams phenibut and some pink floyd always chills me out.
ax1
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Exactly, the government was caught throwing our vets into hospital basements to die even though they had treatable illnesses and injuries just to cut cost, and people wonder why we dont trust the government????
ax1
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He has had the fed Dump 80 billion dollars with money digitally printed out of thin air to artificially pump up the economy for years until the very end, and in the end all our money and life savings have been devalued along with our purchasing power. Of course Dump kept riding that out and was more for it instead of opposing it because cheating is great for votes.
Whatever graph or chart you post is deceptive.
ax1
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That crash started with the coke head before Obobo right?
Woody
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Could just abort them.
dixonk
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I do have a different value on a lot of the living. The kids haven’t become assholes yet. The fatties and smokers don’t like their lives anyway obviously.
thebigt
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like the governor of VA?
dixonk
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it happened during obama so i'm going to give him credit for the misery i went through...
So you didn’t get any of that hope he promised?
thebigt
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hope in one hand and shyt in the other.
dixonk
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thebigt
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i lost my insurance and doctor while obama was dictator-i mean president.Oh yeah? I didn’t get to keep my doctor either.
thebigt
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this song will get your groove on
Jiigzz
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That crash was due to the bankruptcy of Lehmen Beothers and collapse of Merrill Lynch following subprime loans and credit default swaps.
The movie The Big Short is really good to understand how F'd up the whole situation was prior to the collapse. It genuinely makes your blood boil.
You should blame the people who knew about shorting stocks and were blind to the implications of it
Jiigzz
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Ask every other developed nation how they do it, and how they succeed at it.
dixonk
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Ask the people from every developed country that travels to the US for medical tourism how they succeed at it. I guess some find the value in giving away half their paycheck to the govt?
thebigt
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if blm can loot and rob businesses that have no connection to what they are protesting....then i can blame obama for all of my misfortunes---it seems only fair since he was president then!!!
it's obama's fault, daggoneit
thebigt
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last i checked europe isn't doing very well, and weren't even before covid.
ax1
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Alot of these countries have extremely high income tax rates, if we had these rates in the US now I think we would all join BLM and burn the joint down to the graves.
Jiigzz
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Half their paycheck? Not even close lol.Ask the people from every developed country that travels to the US for medical tourism how they succeed at it. I guess some find the value in giving away half their paycheck to the govt?
I dont know anybody who has ever gone to the US for medical care lol. I have known people to go to Mexico for cancer treatment
dixonk
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I lost my grandfather to the wonderful German medical system. Died during a routine operation. Having a government doctor should give everyone a warm and fuzzy feeling knowing that he has no motivation for successes paycheck is on the 1st no matter what.
ax1
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There are a bunch of Canadians that come here every year because they cannot tolerate the waiting times in Canada.
Our health care system has its issues, but mostly come from government interventionism along with its incredibly massive bureaucracy that has skyrocketed costs.