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One meal a day on gear

bigalex

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has anyone tried one meal a day while on test and tren?
i just want to get shredded not to worried about losing some muscle
thanks
 
bigalex said:
has anyone tried one meal a day while on test and tren?
i just want to get shredded not to worried about losing some muscle
thanks
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Absolutely not good idea, for natural guys not bad concept but you need to eat daily calorie intake in one meal which is not easy, especially for big guys. On cycle protein synthesis is very fast and you need to eat much more frequently, 6-7 meal at least 30-35 gr of proteins per meal.
 
Oh god....if I tried that on tren I'd be in trouble. That stuff seems to make my body starve for calories constantly.
 
I run IF year round unless I am on a blast and then will have to up my calories and meal timing because I am putting in extra work at the gym and absolutely ravenous. I'd tear someones head off in hangriness if I waited to eat.
 
Why? You’ll do better for building/maintaining muscle with multiple smaller meals to stimulate MPS, which you can do even more with AAS.
 
IF is much more convenient for me and to be honest there are no appreciable benefits to eating small meals throughout a day in my experience. My lab work improved and I’ve maintained all muscle mass quite easily. So it’s a win all around.
 
kisaj said:
IF is much more convenient for me and to be honest there are no appreciable benefits to eating small meals throughout a day in my experience. My lab work improved and I’ve maintained all muscle mass quite easily. So it’s a win all around.
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You only had one meal a day on IF?

Edit: I was responding to OPs one meal, not IF per se.
 
I do. Intermittent fasting and 1 meal (2-3 meals) in a 3 hour time frame (10pm-01am). Doing it on gear -but I don't use tren.
 
Robert11 said:
One meal per day is by definition IF. It’s the IF warrior diet.
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Half right. It is NOT the definition of IF, but it is an old school version of IF that Hofmekler called the Warrior Diet. For some it works, but I cannot imagine being in any top physical shape and doing it. Not to mention how hard it would be to even eat at maintenance in 1 meal.
 
Sounds like a stupid extreme diet, they usually fail. Don't do it. Eat a real cutting style diet and don't waste gear
 
Just because you think it sounds stupid doesn't change the fact that IF works and is proven to be beneficial to us for improved lipids, improved resting glucose, and the big one- gut inflammation which is very beneficial for lowering SHBG and in turn, possibly increasing free test. The last one is becoming much better known, but integratives and more leading edge docs are now better understanding the role of gut inflammation and hormones.
 
kisaj said:
Just because you think it sounds stupid doesn't change the fact that IF works and is proven to be beneficial to us for improved lipids, improved resting glucose, and the big one- gut inflammation which is very beneficial for lowering SHBG and in turn, possibly increasing free test. The last one is becoming much better known, but integratives and more leading edge docs are now better understanding the role of gut inflammation and hormones.
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If the one meal is your full days calories and not just a meal then I agree, which is it. I only read the opening msg and replyed
 
Gotcha. We are talking in terms of intermittent fasting so he would be consuming all of his calories in one meal.

But, I don't see how it would be possible when on test and tren and lifting and if there was ever a time to allow yourself to eat up, it would be now. The gains can be tremendous and hunger will be through the roof.
 
bigbeaph said:
Oh god....if I tried that on tren I'd be in trouble. That stuff seems to make my body starve for calories constantly.
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Yep..im mad hungry all the time...and there is no way I could hit my macros in one meal without rupturing something
 
kisaj said:
Just because you think it sounds stupid doesn't change the fact that IF works and is proven to be beneficial to us for improved lipids, improved resting glucose, and the big one- gut inflammation which is very beneficial for lowering SHBG and in turn, possibly increasing free test. The last one is becoming much better known, but integratives and more leading edge docs are now better understanding the role of gut inflammation and hormones.
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We’re arguing two things here I think. IF is good for health and maintaining muscle while cutting. It’s not optimal for bulking, but not everyone is bulking. But one meal a day is a particularly extreme and limiting type of IF. Maybe that’s what he was criticizing?
 
What ever happens to just eat protein carbs and fats when hungry and lift hard and heavy and sleep.. repeat. All this new complicated ****nthat probably does nothing worth trying it for. I dunno just my opinion
 
bradleyt1 said:
What ever happens to just eat protein carbs and fats when hungry and lift hard and heavy and sleep.. repeat. All this new complicated ****nthat probably does nothing worth trying it for. I dunno just my opinion
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We live in the age of analytics lol. IF does have actual benefits though for some applications, and a general structure is good for some people who would otherwise not keep their diet in check without a general sense of direction.
 
bradleyt1 said:
What ever happens to just eat protein carbs and fats when hungry and lift hard and heavy and sleep.. repeat. All this new complicated ****nthat probably does nothing worth trying it for. I dunno just my opinion
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Thats pretty much me. Want to be bigger...eat more..cut...eat less carbs. Total oldschool approach for this guy
 
muscleupcrohn said:
We’re arguing two things here I think. IF is good for health and maintaining muscle while cutting. It’s not optimal for bulking, but not everyone is bulking. But one meal a day is a particularly extreme and limiting type of IF. Maybe that’s what he was criticizing?
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Agree that it is definitely not anything you would follow to bulk. Based on OPs statement about wanting to get shredded and not lose muscle, I assume he isn’t looking to bulk.
 
muscleupcrohn said:
We live in the age of analytics lol. IF does have actual benefits though for some applications, and a general structure is good for some people who would otherwise not keep their diet in check without a general sense of direction.
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Exactly why I started it. I was traveling a lot for work and didn’t want to eat like crap in the airports and on the road. So I’d wait until I got somewhere and eat properly. Sometimes that would be mid afternoon and I’d go all day without eating. So it fit. The convenience stuck and now it’s just how I eat. Benefits for health are a bonus.
 
Try several extremely small meals through the day. And I mean extremely small. Larger meals aid in a nice big gut and visceral fat, bloating etc, even on lower calories. The more volume, the more gut.
 
I was eating one meal a day without gear and gaining a lot of weight in the for of a gut. Just because it was a larger meal. The rest of the day my metabolism didn’t even work. Totally worthless.

Eat right away, keep eating, very very tiny waifishly tiny amounts.
 
Old Witch said:
Try several extremely small meals through the day. And I mean extremely small. Larger meals aid in a nice big gut and visceral fat, bloating etc, even on lower calories. The more volume, the more gut.
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Old witch I’m sorry but this is simply not true. At all. I have no idea where you’re getting this information from.
 
BlockBuilder said:
Old witch I’m sorry but this is simply not true. At all. I have no idea where you’re getting this information from.
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So your thought is that eating smaller meals throughout the day and eating 1 large meal a day have the same effect on metabolism?
 
He's not just saying it, it's a fact. There is minimal to no difference in change of metabolism eating 3 meals, 6 meals, 1 large meal, etc.. They are simply different ways of getting in calories and macros that fit each individual's needs. The whole idea of speeding up metabolism by eating more often and smaller meals has long ago been proven false. But, like anything related to diet, it isn't for everyone. If you are diabetic, it may not be in your best interest to wait that long between meals, or if you are dealing with other health issues.

The only difference that needs to be noted is if one was going to bulk and in that case, it would be much easier to consume additional calories if it is spread out into multiple meals.
 
kisaj said:
He's not just saying it, it's a fact. There is minimal to no difference in change of metabolism eating 3 meals, 6 meals, 1 large meal, etc.. They are simply different ways of getting in calories and macros that fit each individual's needs. The whole idea of speeding up metabolism by eating more often and smaller meals has long ago been proven false. But, like anything related to diet, it isn't for everyone. If you are diabetic, it may not be in your best interest to wait that long between meals, or if you are dealing with other health issues.

The only difference that needs to be noted is if one was going to bulk and in that case, it would be much easier to consume additional calories if it is spread out into multiple meals.
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Wrong.
 
I lived off one meal a day for the past decade, I know exactly what medical conditions it caused. Because that’s exactly what my doctor attributes them to. But hey... you do you.
 
Hey man, you follow any outdated plan you want. If it works for you then fine, but stop trying to sell people misinformation. Your body isn't a delicate little snowflake that you are making it out to be.
 
BlockBuilder said:
Lol the 6 meal myth was debunked a long time ago. Yikes
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Not talking about that either. A “normal” diet is three large meals and two snacks, ok so that’s actually five meals. I’m talking about five snack sized meals instead essentially. A small portion of meat and vegetables with some type of added “healthy fat”
 
Wow...yea I've dont the 1 meal a day for a couple years too. No comparison in my books...and the 6 meals a day has been "debunked". What exactly has been debunked? I understand IF in all its forms may work better for some but these blanket statements stand for strange arguments.
 
Everyone has an intermittent fast when they go to bed and sleep a solid 8 to however many hours. Unless you’re one of those chuckleheads who either thinks they need to eat a meal or drink casein right before bed or gets up to eat in the middle of the night etc...
 
IF is good for maintaining muscle while cutting. Spiking MPS every 3-4 hours is best for bulking.

Other methods will still work of course too.
 
You all are baiting me to look up the relevant studies. Not gonna happen. My time is too precious.

The multiple meal = better hypothesis was debunked long ago, I'm sure.
I read studies about it in the past, before opting for intermittent fasting. IF by itself is questionable, because at the end its all about calories in -versus out, no matter how many meals a day.

As I said, downside is the infant sized turd forming in your intestines after one huge meal. Sleeping with 4 pounds of food in your belly isn't ideal either.
 
There really isn't any argument here other than Old Witch going through some personal health issues or something and now trying to make his personal experience gospel for the way things need to be done. Next he'll be telling us that we shouldn't squat either. Oh wait...
 
kisaj said:
There really isn't any argument here other than Old Witch going through some personal health issues or something and now trying to make his personal experience gospel for the way things need to be done. Next he'll be telling us that we shouldn't squat either. Oh wait...
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Not everyone enjoys pushing that fire extinguisher turd out, like I do.
 
kisaj said:
There really isn't any argument here other than Old Witch going through some personal health issues or something and now trying to make his personal experience gospel for the way things need to be done. Next he'll be telling us that we shouldn't squat either. Oh wait...
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Yeah, whatever. We will all see who is right one day in the future.

I think I’ve said enough about both of these topics.

Y’all have a party. I’ll go where I’m respected. Peace.
 
Old Witch said:
Yeah, whatever. We will all see who is right one day in the future.

I think I’ve said enough about both of these topics.

Y’all have a party. I’ll go where I’m respected. Peace.
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No doubt that pro bodybuilders eat a lot of meals throughout the day....and it works.
One meal a day works too, if you can do it. I do. It works.

Remember the "go heavy or go home" notion? Well, they were wrong too.
 
Having a window of consumption: good.

Eating actually only one large meal per day: not so good. In fact probably bad. It was for me. Very.


That is all.
 
hairygrandpa said:
You all are baiting me to look up the relevant studies. Not gonna happen. My time is too precious.

The multiple meal = better hypothesis was debunked long ago, I'm sure.
I read studies about it in the past, before opting for intermittent fasting. IF by itself is questionable, because at the end its all about calories in -versus out, no matter how many meals a day.

As I said, downside is the infant sized turd forming in your intestines after one huge meal. Sleeping with 4 pounds of food in your belly isn't ideal either.
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Studies show IF is good for maintaining muscle while cutting, but suboptimal for building muscle. This seems pretty obvious haha.
 
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