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Donald Trump running for president

youngandfree said:
It's all a conspiracy tI'll it's proven true, right?

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There should be an investigation, a trial, and punishment if found guilty. I've never been against that for either side. Conspiracy comes in when you assume the entire FBI or DOJ is corrupt because of a few.
 
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Here's your favorite website. Any other news agencies report on a Google executive's email detailing how they were manipulating Google searches and results to sway the election?
 
Aleksandar37 said:
There should be an investigation, a trial, and punishment if found guilty. I've never been against that for either side. Conspiracy comes in when you assume the entire FBI or DOJ is corrupt because of a few.
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The few that are corrupt are leading the investigation. That's a problem. I never said every single employee of both agencies are corrupt. Just like I never said NK would not have nukes by now. Since nearly all of your arguments are based on semantics.
 
How many times did this POS dodge the draft?
(5) He's good to stand for the Anthem now? Spurs all heeled?

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youngandfree said:
The few that are corrupt are leading the investigation. That's a problem. I never said every single employee of both agencies are corrupt. Just like I never said NK would not have nukes by now. Since nearly all of your arguments are based on semantics.
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Based on your opinion, not on facts. Do you not understand what semantics means? Are you now attacking semantics the same way you attacked people who want to pursue higher education? Facts and semantics are important in reality and you've made blanket statements about the FBI.
 
Aleksandar37 said:
Based on your opinion, not on facts. Do you not understand what semantics means? Are you now attacking semantics the same way you attacked people who want to pursue higher education? Facts and semantics are important in reality and you've made blanket statements about the FBI.
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The semantics are I never said the specific things you keep saying I did. You want to argue semantics about everything except backing up the secific allegations you make about me. So Peter Strozk wasn't helping lead the investigation into Trump and Carter Page specifically that these communications are about? That's pretty ****ing corrupt. Are you saying Strozk didn't do anything corrupt regarding candidate Trump and this entire investigation?
 
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He should be re elected. It's nice to have a president that knows how to improve an economy without a bunch of useless Gov't jobs.
Imagine if he had support from the rino's how awesome it would be for the working man that likes to work for himself and or his family and not have to give it away to the lazy that sit in coffee shops all day on free wi-fi drinking the socialist kool-aid.

I think most people would prefer to have a job over living off the Government. (way too much abuse of our welfare system)


My Grandfather and sister are Democrats and they are discussed with there representation in Washington.
They both voted for Trump because they thought Hillary had gotten away with breaking the law too many times for personal gain.
 
youngandfree said:
The semantics are I never said the specific things you keep saying I did. You want to argue semantics about everything except backing up the secific allegations you make about me. So Peter Strozk wasn't helping lead the investigation into Trump and Carter Page specifically that these communications are about? That's pretty ****ing corrupt. Are you saying Strozk didn't do anything corrupt regarding candidate Trump and this entire investigation?
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Peter Strozk is not leading the investigation. He's not even employed by the FBI anymore. There should be an investigation, a trial, and punishment if he is found guilty. This is your quote: "The few that are corrupt are leading the investigation."
 
Trump is the man. Almost everyone liked him before the huge smear campaign by the democrats. SMH
 
RickyBlobby said:
Trump is the man. Almost everyone liked him before the huge smear campaign by the democrats. SMH
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Well... I never liked him. My father never liked him. His brother never liked him... I think you get the idea.
His words and actions are what cause enough for anyone to dislike him.

Why do you like him? (I really don't care, do you?).
He's kind of a pu$$y.
 
justhere4comm said:
Well... I never liked him. My father never liked him. His brother never liked him... I think you get the idea.
His words and actions are what cause enough for anyone to dislike him.

Why do you like him? (I really don't care, do you?).
He's kind of a pu$$y.
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Obviously your family isn't too keen on politics if you would rather have Hillary running our country.
 
Aleksandar37 said:
Peter Strozk is not leading the investigation. He's not even employed by the FBI anymore. There should be an investigation, a trial, and punishment if he is found guilty. This is your quote: "The few that are corrupt are leading the investigation."
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He was before he got fired. The ones still leading it are corrupt for continuing the charade. The Steele Dossier was submitted to the FISA court, without disclosing it was opposition research paid for by the DNC. That's not corrupt? That's just the beginning of the circus.
 
justhere4comm said:
How many times did this POS dodge the draft?
(5) He's good to stand for the Anthem now? Spurs all heeled?

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I saw that on CiaNN earlier...its honestly a bit ridiculous to even make news out of that one. They really try hard to deceive people by creating something out of nothing and it unfortunately works on many.

My knock on Dump is that he is just another "swamp" man who is covering up the truth about 9/11 and missed out on yet another opportunity to tell the public how "fake news" sold the USA out on 9/11 and since to the day, but unfortunately Dump is part of the system he pretends to oppose.
 
RickyBlobby said:
Trump is the man. Almost everyone liked him before the huge smear campaign by the democrats. SMH
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There is a smear by the "republicrats" too if you pay attention. John Insane McCain specifically didnt want Puppet in Chief to show up at his good riddance for example and the Speaker of the Douche Paul Cryin Ryan threatened to retire from existance and blamed Dump.
 
RickyBlobby said:
Obviously your family isn't too keen on politics if you would rather have Hillary running our country.
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Just because he wants Dump to be flushed down the toilet doesnt automatically qualify him or his family as a Hitlery supporter.

Personally I voted for Gayry Johnson and this country would be in better position Constitutionally.
 
This is why I hate politics. Everyone thinks they know what's going on but the truth is we only know what they want us to know.

That said I think the democrats, in general, have a clear socialist agenda and if that's the side you support you need to get your head checked.
 
RickyBlobby said:
This is why I hate politics. Everyone thinks they know what's going on but the truth is we only know what they want us to know.

That said I think the democrats, in general, have a clear socialist agenda and if that's the side you support you need to get your head checked.
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Republicrats as a whole are only slightly less socialist than Demicans in Washington. They primarily have debates on how to implement the same or similar systems and they both profit financially through their financiers (lobby, banks, etc...) that bribe them to implement these socialist policies.
 
ax1 said:
Republicrats as a whole are only slightly less socialist than Demicans in Washington. They primarily have debates on how to implement the same or similar systems and they both profit financially through their financiers (lobby, banks, etc...) that bribe them to implement these socialist policies.
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So do you think trump, as an already wealthy man, is less likely to be bribed than others? Plus we need someone tough on borders. Which is clearly the last thing democrats want.
 
RickyBlobby said:
So do you think trump, as an already wealthy man, is less likely to be bribed than others? Plus we need someone tough on borders. Which is clearly the last thing democrats want.
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Its a fact Dump has been very well already bribed and sold out. He and Pence have collected at least 30 million dollars in Federal Lobbying fees. He has even hired at least a couple hundred former lobbyists and gave them jobs in Washington and various other positions and have direct lobbiests connected to double digit mega firms. Dont even get me started on election money, that was in the past.

If he was the real deal with "draining the swamp," he would all start with the core of the cancer, banning lobby in Washington and political office, but that is not the case so he is what he is, a sell out or in the "in."
 
We understand politics quite well, but more importantly we know human nature and how important it is to hold one's self and others accountable to a high standard. There's no smear campaign going on here, because even if there were, he'd come out looking good.

My point there is, we can like someone until they reveal their true selves to us, or upon new information. Such as him treating women as he has, and having no remorse. I cannot abide any man such as that. His words on tape. His terrible business deals where he harms others. I never gave him much thought other than he was a cheesy reality television personality. Now, however.

There's seriously something wrong with him, and he has more character flaws than one can list without going on a tangental sideline. He's not as rich as he would have anyone believe. I'd really want to see him release those tax returns. He never will. Why not? He has garnered loans he cannot pay back from the only bank that would give him a loan. Let's also not delve to deeply here, but he is beholding to foreign governments counting at least Russia. His decision making abilities are poor at best. Say what you will of his competition, but he is not fit to be POTUS.

Notice how I didn't impugn you; your abilities; or your family while arguing a point.
I found this old story of a farmer that describes politicians.



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justhere4comm said:
We understand politics quite well, but more importantly we know human nature and how important it is to hold one's self and others accountable to a high standard. There's no smear campaign going on here, because even if there were, he'd come out looking good.

My point there is, we can like someone until they reveal their true selves to us, or upon new information. Such as him treating women as he has, and having no remorse. I cannot abide any man such as that. His words on tape. His terrible business deals where he harms others. I never gave him much thought other than he was a cheesy reality television personality. Now, however.

There's seriously something wrong with him, and he has more character flaws than one can list without going on a tangental sideline. He's not as rich as he would have anyone believe. I'd really want to see him release those tax returns. He never will. Why not? He has garnered loans he cannot pay back from the only bank that would give him a loan. Let's also not delve to deeply here, but he is beholding to foreign governments counting at least Russia. His decision making abilities are poor at best. Say what you will of his competition, but he is not fit to be POTUS.

Notice how I didn't impugn you; your abilities; or your family while arguing a point.
I found this old story of a farmer that describes politicians.



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You were doing ok until the beholden to Russia part. No evidence of that ever been found. None of the charges or pleas or convictions, or Manafort's trials point to it either. That's my point on the corrupt people in the FBI and DOJ.
 
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Here's Google's videotaped employee meeting after 2016 election decrying Trump and disparaging Trump supporters. Couple this with the leaked emails from the Google executive detailing what they did behind the scenes to fliter certain content to get more Latinos to vote against Trump.

And Google isn't politically biased. Sure. Ask conservative type people that have had their You Tube channel affected.
 
youngandfree said:
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Here's Google's videotaped employee meeting after 2016 election decrying Trump and disparaging Trump supporters. Couple this with the leaked emails from the Google executive detailing what they did behind the scenes to fliter certain content to get more Latinos to vote against Trump.

And Google isn't politically biased. Sure. Ask conservative type people that have had their You Tube channel affected.
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They're a private company, not the government, so what's the problem? People within Google are of course biased. That's not the same as saying that their search functions are biased simply because the President doesn't understand how it works.
 
Aleksandar37 said:
They're a private company, not the government, so what's the problem? People within Google are of course biased. That's not the same as saying that their search functions are biased simply because the President doesn't understand how it works.
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I'm inclined to agree. I don't know why anyone cares what private companies restrict. If you disagree, don't use their platform. Vote with your dollar.
 
jimbuick said:
I'm inclined to agree. I don't know why anyone cares what private companies restrict. If you disagree, don't use their platform. Vote with your dollar.
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Same people who want bakeries to decide who they make cakes for are worried what another private business thinks.
 
Aleksandar37 said:
Same people who want bakeries to decide who they make cakes for are worried what another private business thinks.
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Meh, the hypocrisy doesn't bother me much, probably because it is so normal in politics (and humans in general).

For instance, the same people that don't think a baker has a right to refuse service do believe a SM platform has the right to censor political speech. ¯\_(ツ)_/¯

Everyone likes to believe their **** doesn't stink as bad as someone else's.
 
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Ol Sherlock Woodward said he looked for Trump Russia collusion and he didn't find anything either. Since he "uncovered Watergate," he's the authoritative investigator to look to for information.
 
youngandfree said:
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Ol Sherlock Woodward said he looked for Trump Russia collusion and he didn't find anything either. Since he "uncovered Watergate," he's the authoritative investigator to look to for information.
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Maybe there is no collusion. If that's what the investigation finds, then that is what it finds, but looking into this was the right move.
 
RickyBlobby said:
This is why I hate politics. Everyone thinks they know what's going on but the truth is we only know what they want us to know.

That said I think the democrats, in general, have a clear socialist agenda and if that's the side you support you need to get your head checked.
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I had Dr. Paul come in here over the weekend and look at your post and he responded today to help solidify my point. Thanks Dr. Paul!

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Republicans’ Responsibility for Socialism’s Comeback

Written by Ron Paul
Monday September 17, 2018

According to a recent Reuters/Ipsos survey, 70 percent of Americans, including about 50 percent of Republicans, support Medicare for all, the latest incarnation of single-payer health care. Republican support for a health plan labeled “Medicare for all” is not surprising considering that Republican politicians support Medicare and that one of their attacks on Obamacare was that it would harm the program. Furthermore, the biggest expansion of Medicare since its creation — the Part D prescription drug program — occurred under a conservative president working with a conservative Congress.

Conservative Republicans do propose reforming Medicare to reduce its costs, but their proposals are always framed as “saving Medicare,” and most reform plans increase spending. Few conservative Republicans would dare advocate allowing young people to opt out of paying Medicare taxes in exchange for agreeing to forgo Medicare benefits.

Many conservative Republicans favor other government interventions into health care, including many features of Obamacare. In fact, Obamacare’s individual mandate originated as a conservative proposal and was once championed by many leading Republicans. Many other Republicans simply lack the courage to repeal Obamacare, so they say they only want to repeal the “unpopular” parts of the law. It would not be surprising if we soon heard conservatives and Republican politicians talk about defending Obamacare from supporters of socialized medicine.

The same dynamic at work in health care is at work in other areas. For example, the same conservative administration and Congress that created Medicare Part D also dramatically expanded federal control of education with “No Child Left Behind.” Conservative Republicans who (rightly) fight against deficit spending when a Democrat sits in the White House decide that “deficits don’t matter” when the president has an “R” next to his name.

Many Republican politicians — and even conservative intellectuals — will say they are being pragmatic by not fighting progressives on first principles, but instead limiting the damage done by the welfare state. The problem with this line is that, by accepting the premise that government can and should solve all of life’s problems, conservatives and Republicans will inevitably get into a “bidding war” with progressives and Democrats. The only way Republicans can then win is to join Democrats in continually increasing spending and creating new programs. This is why the so-called “conservative welfare state” ends up as bloated and expansive as the progressive welfare state. Refusing to question the premises of the welfarists and socialists is not a pragmatic way to advance liberty.

While progressives blame social crises on the free market, Republicans and conservatives are unwilling to admit the problems were caused by prior government interventions. Thus the passage of Dodd-Frank was aided by claims that the housing bubble was created by deregulation, while Obamacare’s passage benefited from widespread misconception that America had a free-market health care system prior to 2010.

Until a popular intellectual movement arises that is able and willing to challenge the premises of Keynesianism, welfarism, and democratic socialism, while putting forth a positive vision of a free society, government will continue to expand. Fortunately, such a movement exists and is growing as more Americans — particularly young Americans— are studying the ideas of Liberty and working to spread those ideas. If the new liberty movement grows and stays true to its principles, it will be able to defeat the socialists of all parties, including those who call themselves conservative.

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Iran 'sowing chaos, death, destruction'

Prezident Donald J. Dump
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9/25/2018

Ok, so lets look at the exhibit:

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Oh, wait, Prezident Dump, the Mr. Death and Destruction in Chief.....THAT HAPPENED BECAUSE OF YOU!!!!!

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Iran 'sowing chaos, death, destruction'

Prezident Donald J. Dump
Addressing the United Nations General Assembly in New York
9/25/2018

Ok, so lets look at the exhibit:

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Oh, wait, Prezident Dump, the Mr. Death and Destruction in Chief.....THAT HAPPENED BECAUSE OF YOU!!!!!

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I know, right? I had a good laugh at the people laughing at him. I'll bet that pissed him off real good. Would have hated to be on his staff after that speech lol.
 
After all that I have no idea if this judge did this crime or not....Im leaning he is innocent, that doesnt exempt him from being a big government anti-constitutional thug which should disqualify him from the seat anyways....... and that doesnt exempt mass murdering lunatics of women and children who questioned him today who have no ethical authority to be questioning him in the first place...ok going off topic lol

So Im leaning he is innocent, what you guys thought? I dont think anyone can come up with anything conclusively though.
 
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