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Bicep size? What’s your stats people and what do you think looks “good”

Too many bible verses here, its getting hot for me...

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ironhands said:
we humans we are told to forgive transgressions...do you even read your Bible??
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Please, tell me who transgressed against you? It is not your place to forgive sins of others that have nothing to do with you; you're not God. "Work out your own salvation with fear and trembling." -Philippians 2:12 (NRSV)
 
ironhands said:
we humans we are told to forgive transgressions...do you even read your Bible??
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Jesus told even the apostles "If anyone will not welcome you or listen to your words, shake off the dust from your feet as you leave that house or town." when talking about preaching the Gospel. These were people given the ability to perform miracles, and Jesus told THEM not to shove their faith down other people's throats. But YOU must possess better skills and ability to preach the Gospel than even the apostles, right? Listen to Jesus' teachings and stop trying to force your belief on others once they say they're not interested.
 
DemntedCowboy said:
Ummm...The golden rule is to Love thy Neighbor, as you want them to Love you. Not Love God. Thats suppost to be a given already. Might want to do some more studying there bud
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the Golden rule is in the Bible, not love God? and it's given already? what? Jesus commanded us to love God with all our might and all or strength. do you even study your Bible?
 
muscleupcrohn said:
Jesus told even the apostles "If anyone will not welcome you or listen to your words, shake off the dust from your feet as you leave that house or town." when talking about preaching the Gospel. These were people given the ability to perform miracles, and Jesus told THEM not to shove their faith down other people's throats. But YOU must possess better skills and ability to preach the Gospel than even the apostles, right? Listen to Jesus' teachings and stop trying to force your belief on others once they say they're not interested.
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Oh, I see, you don't believe in Jesus, I see
 
muscleupcrohn said:
Please, tell me who transgressed against you? It is not your place to forgive sins of others that have nothing to do with you; you're not God. "Work out your own salvation with fear and trembling." -Philippians 2:12 (NRSV)
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yeah but you are constantly attacking me and trying to make me look bad, don't act as it's not obvious, the Bible tells us to test the spirits, I do forgive you, but don't act all mighty and holier than thou when I can see right through you
 
ironhands said:
the Golden rule is in the Bible, not love God? and it's given already? what? Jesus commanded us to love God with all our might and all or strength. do you even study your Bible?
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Matthew 7:12 (commonly referred to as "The Golden Rule"):

"In everything do to others as you would have them do to you; for this is the law and the prophets." (NRSV)

You clearly have absolutely no idea what you're talking about.
ironhands said:
Oh, I see, you don't believe in Jesus, I see
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I never said that. All I'm saying is that you're not going to win anyone over this way, by preaching the Gospel out of fear, which is what you're doing when you tell people that they need to believe/accept Jesus or they're going to Hell.

Religion is like a dick. We all have one, and some people like yours, but you really shouldn't shove it down other people's throats when they say they don't want it.
 
muscleupcrohn said:
In his defense, if he actually has 19” arms at 7% body fat and a 190 IQ he’s the closest thing to a God that we can prove exists haha. But of course there’s no proof of his claims either.
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no one can compare to God, i'm just a servant of the Lord Jesus Christ
 
ironhands said:
yeah but you are constantly attacking me and trying to make me look bad, don't act as it's not obvious, the Bible tells us to test the spirits, I do forgive you, but don't act all mighty and holier than thou when I can see right through you
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You fail to make the distinction between me pointing out your incorrect statements and "attacking" you. I'm not attacking YOU, I'm correcting your incorrect statements. It's no more of an attack than if I told you "no, 2+2 does not equal 5, it equals 4." You've repeatedly shown you lack even a cursory understanding of the Bible, and have repeatedly criticized others and made asinine and unsubstantiated claims.
 
muscleupcrohn said:
Matthew 7:12 (commonly referred to as "The Golden Rule"):

"In everything do to others as you would have them do to you; for this is the law and the prophets." (NRSV)

You clearly have absolutely no idea what you're talking about.

I never said that. All I'm saying is that you're not going to win anyone over this way, by preaching the Gospel out of fear, which is what you're doing when you tell people that they need to believe/accept Jesus or they're going to Hell.

Religion is like a dick. We all have one, and some people like yours, but you really shouldn't shove it down other people's throats when they say they don't want it.
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i shake off the dust from my feet now.
 
muscleupcrohn said:
You fail to make the distinction between me pointing out your incorrect statements and "attacking" you. I'm not attacking YOU, I'm correcting your incorrect statements. It's no more of an attack than if I told you "no, 2+2 does not equal 5, it equals 4." You've repeatedly shown you lack even a cursory understanding of the Bible, and have repeatedly criticized others and made asinine and unsubstantiated claims.
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no, but believe what you want, don't tell me later that i didn't warn you.
 
ironhands said:
the Golden rule is in the Bible, not love God? and it's given already? what? Jesus commanded us to love God with all our might and all or strength. do you even study your Bible?
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Well, that does not work in the real world. Commanding someone to love someone. Think about it. Its preposterous. Even worse, when the one you are commanded to love is invisible.
This thread is getting silly.
 
ironhands said:
Oh, I see, you don't believe in Jesus, I see
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Finally, wow took you a while but got there in the end. I would like to show my appreciation for the fact you understand now that people have different beliefs.

Next you need to work on understanding that because you belive in something does not make it so and you will be two thirds on your way to becoming a much better person.

The last third is not pushing your beliefs onto other people but not sure you will ever get there. Two out of three would be good though. For someone of your intelligence.
 
hairygrandpa said:
Well, that does not work in the real world. Commanding someone to love someone. Think about it. Its preposterous. Even worse, when the one you are commanded to love is invisible.
This thread is getting silly.
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oh...so you don't want to believe what Jesus said...oh...ok...i see
 
Wobmarvel said:
Finally, wow took you a while but got there in the end. I would like to show my appreciation for the fact you understand now that people have different beliefs.

Next you need to work on understanding that because you belive in something does not make it so and you will be two thirds on your way to becoming a much better person.

The last third is not pushing your beliefs onto other people but not sure you will ever get there. Two out of three would be good though. For someone of your intelligence.
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i don't do what people tell me to do, i do what God tells me to do. and something tells me you are an atheist
 
ironhands said:
i don't do what people tell me to do, i do what God tells me to do. and something tells me you are an atheist
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God tells you to tell other people that they don't love God when you know nothing about them? He tells you to brag about your 190 IQ while claiming to be humble?
 
muscleupcrohn said:
God tells you to tell other people that they don't love God when you know nothing about them? He tells you to brag about your 190 IQ while claiming to be humble?
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it's not my fault that my IQ is high, that's like someone being tall, like 6'7'', if someone asks his height, and he says ''i'm 6'7''''', is he bragging about his height? think about that one
 
ironhands said:
i believe you are possibly an atheist or at best, an agnostic
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Nope, try again.

I have a background in many faiths/religions/theologies, and pull from / believe / practice from many of them.

I read the Bible, the Bhagavad Gita, the Dhammapada, The Tao Te Ching, Plato, Aristotle, The Stoics (Epictetus and Aurelius), etc. Definitely not an atheist, just someone who admits to not having all the answers and looking in multiple places to find the truth.
 
ironhands said:
it's not my fault that my IQ is high, that's like someone being tall, like 6'7'', if someone asks his height, and he says ''i'm 6'7''''', is he bragging about his height? think about that one
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Yeah but no one asked your IQ, or about your physique. You just told us all about it, and haven't backed any of it up yet.
 
muscleupcrohn said:
Nope, try again.

I have a background in many faiths/religions/theologies, and pull from / believe / practice from many of them.

I read the Bible, the Bhagavad Gita, the Dhammapada, The Tao Te Ching, Plato, Aristotle, The Stoics (Epictetus and Aurelius), etc. Definitely not an atheist, just someone who admits to not having all the answers and looking in multiple places to find the truth.
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beware of doctrines of Devils
 
ironhands said:
so? it's a bodybuilding forum, we are here to learn
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About the Bible? Furthermore, from you? You've repeatedly shown you don't have a firm grasp on the Bible, as you got the Golden Rule wrong...
ironhands said:
it's not my fault that my IQ is high, that's like someone being tall, like 6'7'', if someone asks his height, and he says ''i'm 6'7''''', is he bragging about his height? think about that one
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If you randomly tell people on the internet you're 6'7" for no reason you're a douche too...
ironhands said:
you don't have to believe me if you don't want to, i already posted one pic
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That pic was nowhere even close to 19" at 7% body fat.
 
DemntedCowboy said:
I think his physique is all faith based. He just keeps praying God will give him the same build as Dorian Yates, while he eats hoho's and sips on RC Cola in his mom's basement.
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this is not true, i worked hard for my physique (and still do). read the book of Ecclesiastes while you can
 
muscleupcrohn said:
About the Bible? Furthermore, from you? You've repeatedly shown you don't have a firm grasp on the Bible, as you got the Golden Rule wrong...

If you randomly tell people on the internet you're 6'7" for no reason you're a douche too...

That pic was nowhere even close to 19" at 7% body fat.
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i've said it before, that's an old pic, and my arms were 18'' then, with a pump, and yes i had higher body fat then. i was 29 then, i'm 41 now, many years of lifting went by
 
ironhands said:
beware of doctrines of Devils
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If I jumped from your ego to your IQ I'd reach terminal velocity halfway down...

Are you aware how much of the teachings of Jesus are echoed in other faiths/philosophies? Hell, Plato even gave the analogy of sins as nails before Jesus did the same thing on the cross. Not undermining Jesus at all, just showing that perhaps it's just a truth that isn't exclusive to one system or theology.
 
muscleupcrohn said:
About the Bible? Furthermore, from you? You've repeatedly shown you don't have a firm grasp on the Bible, as you got the Golden Rule wrong...

If you randomly tell people on the internet you're 6'7" for no reason you're a douche too...

That pic was nowhere even close to 19" at 7% body fat.
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Where was this pic posted. I still havent seen it
 
Wobmarvel said:
No one asked what your iq was.
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go back and read, that guy Mike Arnold made a comment trying to imply that I was stupid or something, so he was shocked when i mentioned my IQ level. nothing wrong with trying to defend myself, so you think i gotta take your insults too??
 
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