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not sure what to think of cvn78...1st change in carrier design in 40 years, maybe they are biting off to much at once?
 
not sure what to think of cvn78...1st change in carrier design in 40 years, maybe they are biting off to much at once?

It's time for improvements, but the articles I've read say there's been some serious concerns with what happened during testing. Of course they won't know for sure until the time comes like anything else. At least they didn't name it after Carter ;)
 
It's time for improvements, but the articles I've read say there's been some serious concerns with what happened during testing. Of course they won't know for sure until the time comes like anything else. At least they didn't name it after Carter ;)

carter, lol......I agree time for upgrades, but from what I have read it won't actually be sea worthy for up to 4 years. I precommed the Eisenhower and 30 days later we were on shakedown cruise.

instead of steam catapults they have electro magnetic-this sounds good but in practicality hey haven't been able to make it work...but my biggest concern is apparently there is no manual override????
 
carter, lol......I agree time for upgrades, but from what I have read it won't actually be sea worthy for up to 4 years. I precommed the Eisenhower and 30 days later we were on shakedown cruise.

instead of steam catapults they have electro magnetic-this sounds good but in practicality hey haven't been able to make it work...but my biggest concern is apparently there is no manual override????

I haven't seen anything about no override. I just saw that there is another two on the way after this one and Trump wants them to go back to using steam.
 
I haven't seen anything about no override. I just saw that there is another two on the way after this one and Trump wants them to go back to using steam.

the time between launches would be drastically reduced with electro magnetic versus steam, so far they haven't worked out the bugs, but i'm confident they will-to me this seems like a good upgrade. the total reliance on onboard computers controlling every aspect of the ship is where I have the biggest concern. to me it doesn't make sense to not have manual override in place???
 
the time between launches would be drastically reduced with electro magnetic versus steam, so far they haven't worked out the bugs, but i'm confident they will-to me this seems like a good upgrade. the total reliance on onboard computers controlling every aspect of the ship is where I have the biggest concern. to me it doesn't make sense to not have manual override in place???

yeah, that seems like it would need to be worked in there. Is it possible they just didn't have it during testing, but have it now?
 
You guys seen the movie Battleship? Nothing gives me the chills more than when I see the part they have to revert to using the museum peace to fight the aliens, that WWII Battleship with the old vets....that thing is a sexy beast!
 
You guys seen the movie Battleship? Nothing gives me the chills more than when I see the part they have to revert to using the museum peace to fight the aliens, that WWII Battleship with the old vets....that thing is a sexy beast!

I gave up on going to see movies when they started making ones based on board games lol. Was it actually any good?
 
yeah, that seems like it would need to be worked in there. Is it possible they just didn't have it during testing, but have it now?

I think it was premature to unveil it now, they should have waited...it is a beautiful ship with many needed upgrades but it makes the navy look bad to do a precomm ceremony with so many bugs still to be worked out---4 years before seaworthy, they should have waited, imho!!!
 
I think it was premature to unveil it now, they should have waited...it is a beautiful ship with many needed upgrades but it makes the navy look bad to do a precomm ceremony with so many bugs still to be worked out---4 years before seaworthy, they should have waited, imho!!!

oh I agree. I'm also a little worried that such news is so easily released for the world to see.
 
I think it was premature to unveil it now, they should have waited...it is a beautiful ship with many needed upgrades but it makes the navy look bad to do a precomm ceremony with so many bugs still to be worked out---4 years before seaworthy, they should have waited, imho!!!

China just released a new carrier a short while ago, wonder if this was just a reactionary move.
 
Anybody taking bets if Trump will veto the Russian sanctions bill this week? Everybody says he's going to let it pass, but it takes away a lot of power that he seems to enjoy.
 
Invalid Link Removed which pill have you swallowed?

I would do a stack, LOL
-0.5 cap red
-0.5 cap yellow
-0.5 cap green

As a cycle support I would need a lot of like minded individuals.
PCT not needed, humanity should recover by itself after cycle.
 
I would do a stack, LOL
-0.5 cap red
-0.5 cap yellow
-0.5 cap green

As a cycle support I would need a lot of like minded individuals.
PCT not needed, humanity should recover by itself after cycle.

Why hope off the cycle? Humanity definitely doesn't need to cycle off anything lol that's how we got democrats . I'll be cruising on on the red pill for the rest of my life.
 
healthcare reform has become as boring as the Russians...someone wake me when they finally pass something--of course I might be rip van winkle by then!!!:sleeping:
 
Thoughts on the military transgender ban?
 
Why hope off the cycle? Humanity definitely doesn't need to cycle off anything lol that's how we got democrats . I'll be cruising on on the red pill for the rest of my life.
So, you assume that you are one of the "objectively superior" people?
 
Thoughts on the military transgender ban?

There's some great Americans currently serving and who have already served that are trans and I think it's rdiculous that a bunch of rich ****s who can't control their own sexual feelings get uncomfortable at the thought of somebody that is different from them and therefore feel the need to punish them. And to say it's because of cost when that has been shown to not be true is lying and taking the cowards way out of this. It's 2017 and although I don't agree with a lot of the miltiary decisions over the past few decades, I appreciate anybody who is willing to fight for this country.
 
Thoughts on the military transgender ban?

I dont think people who are willing to mutilate their bodies to that extreme extent should be involved with the military on the battlefield. That would include straight regular folks who prefer to cut their ears off or a leg or two.
 
I dont think people who are willing to mutilate their bodies to that extreme extent should be involved with the military on the battlefield. That would include straight regular folks who prefer to cut their ears off or a leg or two.

They're not doing it to themselves at a home depot. They're going to a physician. Using that logic, nobody that has ever received elective surgery of any sort should be allowed.
 
There's some great Americans currently serving and who have already served that are trans and I think it's rdiculous that a bunch of rich ****s who can't control their own sexual feelings get uncomfortable at the thought of somebody that is different from them and therefore feel the need to punish them. And to say it's because of cost when that has been shown to not be true is lying and taking the cowards way out of this. It's 2017 and although I don't agree with a lot of the miltiary decisions over the past few decades, I appreciate anybody who is willing to fight for this country.

They're not doing it to themselves at a home depot. They're going to a physician. Using that logic, nobody that has ever received elective surgery of any sort should be allowed.

Ill tell ya what....get rid of the hypocrisy out there and let our men who are serving openly take their steroids without being ridiculed and discriminated against so they can be whatever they want to be and Ill be all for the transgenders being in and fighting along side of our troops 10:)00%
 
Ill tell ya what....get rid of the hypocrisy out there and let our men who are serving openly take their steroids without being ridiculed and discriminated against so they can be whatever they want to be and Ill be all for the transgenders being in :)

What?! As long as steroids are illegal, they can't promote its use openly, but what military ever in the history of time has ridiculed or discriminated against the bigger, more muscular soldiers? Again, if those military members get their steroids from a physician, they are allowed. Otherwise you're comparing apples to oranges. Also, not all trans people actually go through with reassignment surgery.
 
What?! As long as steroids are illegal, they can't promote its use openly, but what military ever in the history of time has ridiculed or discriminated against the bigger, more muscular soldiers? Again, if those military members get their steroids from a physician, they are allowed. Otherwise you're comparing apples to oranges. Also, not all trans people actually go through with reassignment surgery.

Thats the problem, the military cant get their steroids legally from a physician to alter their bodies and performance unless its to alter your natural birth gender. Something is seriously wrong with this hypocrisy. The discrimination and hypocrisy at its core lies in the drug wars. How are these laws protecting people who want to grow bigger and perform better and promoting good health to those who want to take drugs to feminize themselves?

Anyways I went off course here, lol

Im not proactively going against transgenders fighting and serving....Im not one of those hardcore types, I just feel they are abnormal and have some serious mental issues wanting to do that...maybe Im wrong its just how I see it. If I own a business I have no problem hiring them if they are qualified to do the work so maybe Im being a hypocrite myself.
 
What?! As long as steroids are illegal, they can't promote its use openly, but what military ever in the history of time has ridiculed or discriminated against the bigger, more muscular soldiers? Again, if those military members get their steroids from a physician, they are allowed. Otherwise you're comparing apples to oranges. Also, not all trans people actually go through with reassignment surgery.

Ya know what? I gave it some thought for a few minutes. Any transgender who wants to fight for freedom and liberty to me from this point on is on top of my list in my books. Everyone else are the crazy ones!

Libertarian transgender soldier > liberal soldier ROFL!!!!
 
Ya know what? I gave it some thought for a few minutes. Any transgender who wants to fight for freedom and liberty to me from this point on is on top of my list in my books. Everyone else are the crazy ones!

Libertarian transgender soldier > liberal soldier ROFL!!!!

lmao. You've always been really fair and open-minded and I completely agree that there is some hypocrisy going on with steroids being illegal, but that's an entirely diffrent debate since hormone replacement therapy is available for both men and women. The way people talk in this forum, I think I'm one of the few people over 40 who isn't on TRT.
 
So, you assume that you are one of the "objectively superior" people?

Objectively superior Individuals aren't a rarity, anyone who believes their nation must be protected even at the cost of freedom is objectively superior. This can be the average middle class individual, one who adheres to loyalty, nation, state, and equity. One who isnt succumbed to materialism or nihilism.

Yes I am one of them but there are many more who just want everything to work for everyone from a logical perspective and anyone who is against this must face consequences for any actions against the nation.

It's not about superiority, it's about national conciousness, equity for men and woman, and love for your kin.
 
lmao. You've always been really fair and open-minded and I completely agree that there is some hypocrisy going on with steroids being illegal, but that's an entirely diffrent debate since hormone replacement therapy is available for both men and women. The way people talk in this forum, I think I'm one of the few people over 40 who isn't on TRT.

Just hit 40 and no TRT here thank goodness. I only do 11-oxo and 11-keto as far as roids go (ive done some hdrol and similar way back,) maybe I might try some of those mild ones out there now so hopefully Ill never get shut down for life. I dont need to be big. I go for the bruce lee look, just cut down to 155 as of this morning. I used to go for being big and powerful, but my body at my age is loving lighter and higher rep training, simply watching the diet and looking good rather than being big and powerful. I just cant handle what I used to do 20 years ago anymore, so that right there lets me resist temptation of doing heavy roids. Bodybuilding isnt just about being big and powerful.
 
Well if a individual identifies as a transgender then goes into the military, our taxes should not go towards any procedures to change their appearance. Plus even just woman have a hard time in the military with all the sexual harassment and rapes, transgenders will get it worse, then when they kill themselves they'll blame the other soldiers when it's obvious they'll be discriminated harshly. There no need for any of that to happen. If you send a baby into a wolves den don't expect it to not be eaten, there are consequences to equality.
 
Well if a individual identifies as a transgender then goes into the military, our taxes should not go towards any procedures to change their appearance. Plus even just woman have a hard time in the military with all the sexual harassment and rapes, transgenders will get it worse, then when they kill themselves they'll blame the other soldiers when it's obvious they'll be discriminated harshly. There no need for any of that to happen. If you send a baby into a wolves den don't expect it to not be eaten, there are consequences to equality.

So military guys are rapists with no self-control around trannies?
 
So military guys are rapists with no self-control around trannies?

No, statistically there's issue when it comes down to how woman are treated in the military but it time that'll subside as things get balanced out(hopefully). Transgenderism shouldn't be an actual thing since it hold no true in reality besides the fact that people say it's true. It is a reality that they will get ridiculed and possibly abused, there no reason that they should be allowed in the military.

They should fall under the "don't ask, don't tell" policy because retaliation is a reality and their perception of reality isn't.
 
No, statistically there's issue when it comes down to how woman are treated in the military but it time that'll subside as things get balanced out(hopefully). Transgenderism shouldn't be an actual thing since it hold no true in reality besides the fact that people say it's true. It is a reality that they will get ridiculed and possibly abused, there no reason that they should be allowed in the military.

They should fall under the "don't ask, don't tell" policy because retaliation is a reality and their perception of reality isn't.

Orrrr maybe people that we're supposed to call heroes should not be abusing fellow soldiers no matter who they are.
 
Orrrr maybe people that we're supposed to call heroes should not be abusing fellow soldiers no matter who they are.

No they shouldn't be doing that but it's a reality and only time can change how woman are treated in the military. It's one thing that woman should be treated as equals but it's another thing to mold reality around a small population of delusional individuals.
 
when I was a kid I thought I was batman...good thing my mom wouldn't let me sew wings on my shoulders like I wanted.
 
No they shouldn't be doing that but it's a reality and only time can change how woman are treated in the military. It's one thing that woman should be treated as equals but it's another thing to mold reality around a small population of delusional individuals.

My experiences in life had always been straight men giving me problems. I say ban straight men from the military!
 
My experiences in life had always been straight men giving me problems. I say ban straight men from the military!

Yes that must be the answer to everything! We need to make being a straight male illegal, they do commit the majority of crimes, own the majority of firearms in the US, AND they owned slaves years ago. I hate myself now .
 
when I was a kid I thought I was batman...good thing my mom wouldn't let me sew wings on my shoulders like I wanted.

I wanted to be a dinosaur when I was little, specifically a T-Rex. I believe we were just be oppressed by the cis genders and the patriarchy. You deserve to be batman and I should be a T-Rex now! GENDER WAR NOW!
 
In all seriousness, liberal democracies forces people to adhere to false realities on a large scale in the name of individual freedom. Individuals do not deserve freedom, freedom must be earned through loyalty to the nation and the state that is protecting said freedom(s).

The state is flawed and need reforming but ideological rebellion and warfare only causes mass chaos and lack of national unity. There are only two ends to the US government, one is communism and the other is fascism. One requires acceptance of aggression and the other requires the acceptance of submission. One promotes mass unity and the other promotes mass genocide.

Every other "ism" just pushes communism as a future state rather then fascism. Pledging your loyalty to the state ensures your freedom and future in a fascist state while ultimately everyone under a communist state starves.
 
isn't there something mentally ill about thinking you are something you are clearly not?
 
isn't there something mentally ill about thinking you are something you are clearly not?

Logically yea but everyone is free to call themselves anything they want and can become legally legitimate through democratic means in the name of individual freedom.

So no you're just transphobic .
 
In all seriousness, liberal democracies forces people to adhere to false realities on a large scale in the name of individual freedom. Individuals do not deserve freedom, freedom must be earned through loyalty to the nation and the state that is protecting said freedom(s).

The state is flawed and need reforming but ideological rebellion and warfare only causes mass chaos and lack of national unity. There are only two ends to the US government, one is communism and the other is fascism. One requires acceptance of aggression and the other requires the acceptance of submission. One promotes mass unity and the other promotes mass genocide.

Every other "ism" just pushes communism as a future state rather then fascism. Pledging your loyalty to the state ensures your freedom and future in a fascist state while ultimately everyone under a communist state starves.

And you're accusing others of not being in touch with reality, but want everybody to sign up for fascism? Also, there is no state in Communism...that's a fairly basic core concept.
 
And you're accusing others of not being in touch with reality, but want everybody to sign up for fascism? Also, there is no state in Communism...that's a fairly basic core concept.

It has nothing to do with "wanting", it is a time issue. Also there's a reality beyond the perception of the majority of individuals, everyone is some type of "ism" hoping for some rebellion to happen and to spring out a utopia. Totalitarianism is inevitable and it's better to be a fascists rather then a commie. There's post modernism, hyper modernism, and the meta modernism. Right now it seems like we are transitioning to hyper modernism, I can't explain all those modernisms and I wouldn't want to because that's a lot of time but it's like the collectivization of cultures which obviously transitions into politics. Also state communism exist as does state capitalism, the state is just a means to a end for leftists(controlling of the mean of production).
 
In all seriousness, liberal democracies forces people to adhere to false realities on a large scale in the name of individual freedom. Individuals do not deserve freedom, freedom must be earned through loyalty to the nation and the state that is protecting said freedom(s).

The state is flawed and need reforming but ideological rebellion and warfare only causes mass chaos and lack of national unity. There are only two ends to the US government, one is communism and the other is fascism. One requires acceptance of aggression and the other requires the acceptance of submission. One promotes mass unity and the other promotes mass genocide.

Every other "ism" just pushes communism as a future state rather then fascism. Pledging your loyalty to the state ensures your freedom and future in a fascist state while ultimately everyone under a communist state starves.

Why do you have to earn freedom? Why not just leave people alone unless they infringe on other peoples freedoms and take it away at that point?
 
Its the military, not a ****ing social experiment. Second, a lot of tax payers are pissed that they were paying for service members to het sex changes. And finally, the military traditionally does not endorse putting rifles in the hands of folks with mental illness. So, why should this be any different?

I would simply just take away that medical benefit....and I especially would take away transexuals from the "pre-existing" conditions list.

I agree transexuals may have medical issues upstairs but the same can be said for many various other individuals. I would say the solution to this is simply just have certain tests that everyone goes through to get in to see if they can handle themselves which Im not sure if its already done or not. The fact is there are also straight regular people that really arent up for the tasks of the military as well and the social vigors that go along with it who get in for the wrong reasons as well as having issues upstairs.

Ill take a libertarian 2nd amendment supporting tranny over a liberal big government goblin gun grabbing social justice warrior regular dude who kept his hot dog between his legs any day to fight along my side.
 
Why do you have to earn freedom? Why not just leave people alone unless they infringe on other peoples freedoms and take it away at that point?

Well because it doesn't work, no one is entitled to freedom and this idea of entitlement causes chaos and disorder. This idea that everything and everyone is relevant makes nothing and no one relevant. That's why there are so many issues in society today and once someone/a minority is effect negatively it does effect laws which effect the law abiding population limiting their freedom.
 
Well because it doesn't work, no one is entitled to freedom and this idea of entitlement causes chaos and disorder. This idea that everything and everyone is relevant makes nothing and no one relevant. That's why there are so many issues in society today and once someone/a minority is effect negatively it does effect laws which effect the law abiding population limiting their freedom.

If people cause chaos and disorder that effects other peoples liberties you simply arrest them and put them through due process.

People need to stop voting for big government goblins, thats the reasons law abiding people's freedoms have been reduced. Its really the "law abiding" population's fault as much as anyone else for handing over their freedoms. Laws changing do to some minority being effected by something negatively has nothing to do with the inherit right to freedom.
 
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