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Donald Trump running for president

thebigt said:
lol...ultra right wing religious conservative nut-jobs with guns are labeled homegrown terrorists.....what about the group of militants who descended on fergusson and burned and looted a small town while the national guard stood by and watched.
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Or Baltimore.
 
Gutterpump said:
I'm not sure how comparing apples and oranges makes these militias any less criminal. I'm sorry, but holding anyone at gunpoint is a crime. Just as arson and looting is - and did I ever state anything about Furguson at all, even once in this thread? Why are you deflecting, or laughing for that matter? What's so humorous about kidnapping American citizens at gunpoint? I honestly can't believe that anyone supports these lunatics and brush it off like they're trying to defend America or something, by attacking it's own citizens. Insane. And if you are so religious, how could you support this type of violence? That's the true hypocrisy.
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According to the article, they occupied an empty building and have no hostages.

As well I didn't read anything in the Oregon live article speaking on anyone's religious persuasion.
 
Gutterpump said:
I'm not sure how comparing apples and oranges makes these militias any less criminal. I'm sorry, but holding anyone at gunpoint is a crime. Just as arson and looting is - and did I ever state anything about Furguson at all, even once in this thread? Why are you deflecting, or laughing for that matter? What's so humorous about kidnapping American citizens at gunpoint? I honestly can't believe that anyone supports these lunatics and brush it off like they're trying to defend America or something, by attacking it's own citizens. Insane. And if you are so religious, how could you support this type of violence? That's the true hypocrisy.
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Cops holding a criminal at gunpoint is a crime? Criminals are anyone.

Bigt never said YOU talked about Fergusson.

There is a lot of violence in the Bible. So being religious and supporting violence is okay as long as God has a plan.

Are you capable of having a discussion without resorting to the same old weak arguments? How many times can you attack the other person instead of the issue they present? Or trolling because you like pushing buttons?

I bet you're fun at parties.
 
ax1 said:
Yeah right, and you support this dude? lol

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NO ONE is getting a 90% tax rate. Listening to Donald Trump is bad for your IQ. YOUR tax rate, unless you're secretly a top 1% earner, would stay about the same.

[video=youtube;_kuHfm21N8Q]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_kuHfm21N8Q[/video]

Here he explains that he's not going to tax anyone at 90%. He also explains that it was a Republican who was considered to be one of our greatest presidents, was the one who originally instituted a 90% tax rate on earnings over a certain (very high) amount. Said president ushered in possibly the strongest economic era in modern US history.
 
Gutterpump said:
NO ONE is getting a 90% tax rate. Listening to Donald Trump is bad for your IQ. YOUR tax rate, unless you're secretly a top 1% earner, would stay about the same.

[video=youtube;_kuHfm21N8Q]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_kuHfm21N8Q[/video]

Here he explains that he's not going to tax anyone at 90%. He also explains that it was a Republican who was considered to be one of our greatest presidents, was the one who originally instituted a 90% tax rate on earnings over a certain (very high) amount. Said president ushered in possibly the strongest economic era in modern US history.
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He can go take whatever tax rate he wants to steal from people at gunpoint with his extremist socialist policies and go stick it.
 
Gutterpump said:
YOUR tax rate, unless you're secretly a top 1% earner, would stay about the same.
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He says right here that he is going to raise EVERYBODIES tax just so I am forced to pay at gunpoint for other people to choice to have babies. Where is my free shyt if I dont want babies? Thats a start, socialism will guarantee the long term collapse of this country. He isnt going to run up taxes on just for people to take off for having babies, trust me.

Those Oregon Militias need to storm Bernie's Federal Building in Vermont asap and stop this man with a citizens arrest before its too late and this country falls.

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So how does everybody feel about having their payroll taxes raised just so people can have babies?

You work your blood, sweat and tears and then your paycheck gets raped and given to someone else who wants kids.

Everyone knows that Bernie wont raise just everyone payroll tax just for babies....more to come.

You know what....I say if you have a baby and you need time off, you have your own taxes increased the rest of the year and pay for your own baby. Dont steal my money.
 
bighulksmash said:
They are protesters , who are sticking up for 2 ranchers who were illegally detained over a fire that was set to burn crops . Articles on rt dot com
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Are you looking forward to having your productive behavior punished so you can pay for other peoples babies and we can be like "the rest of the world?"
 
Nice backpeddle ax1. No more memes with made up numbers? Because they really help you with your honest 'debating'.

Every single person running for office will never remove taxes. You are crazy to think this will ever happen. Go move somewhere and be a nomad if you don't want to be part of a contributing society.
 
ax1 said:
Are you looking forward to having your productive behavior punished so you can pay for other peoples babies and we can be like "the rest of the world?"
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No i would absolutely leave my job and go pick cotton for a living under the table . I have my own office credentials and a company car ... that being said iam a effin boss lol! I step shprt of diplomatic immunity hahah !
 
Gutterpump said:
Nice backpeddle ax1. No more memes with made up numbers? Because they really help you with your honest 'debating'.

Every single person running for office will never remove taxes. You are crazy to think this will ever happen. Go move somewhere and be a nomad if you don't want to be part of a contributing society.
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Ill just stay here and support and contribute to the growing amount of freedom loving people and restore the Bill of Rights and Constitution rather than being a coward and giving up to communist loving people like you.
 
Gutterpump said:
NO ONE is getting a 90% tax rate. Listening to Donald Trump is bad for your IQ. YOUR tax rate, unless you're secretly a top 1% earner, would stay about the same.

[video=youtube;_kuHfm21N8Q]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_kuHfm21N8Q[/video]

Here he explains that he's not going to tax anyone at 90%. He also explains that it was a Republican who was considered to be one of our greatest presidents, was the one who originally instituted a 90% tax rate on earnings over a certain (very high) amount. Said president ushered in possibly the strongest economic era in modern US history.
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Is the video meant to solidify your point? First he never explains anything about Dwight being our greatest Republican president. He says GOOD at the end, that's all. Second...someone running for president saying what people want to hear. Wow, that's new.
Funny stuff about the corporations not paying tax. LOL! He's going to change that huh? While himself and every other politician is being paid by those corporations to keep legislation like that from seeing the light of day.

Always seems like Atlas Shrugged is their playbook. People work to their ability and get paid for their needs. So if you have 5 children and I have none, you make more money.
 
Otheridstaken said:
Is the video meant to solidify your point? First he never explains anything about Dwight being our greatest Republican president. He says GOOD at the end, that's all. Second...someone running for president saying what people want to hear. Wow, that's new.
Funny stuff about the corporations not paying tax. LOL! He's going to change that huh? While himself and every other politician is being paid by those corporations to keep legislation like that from seeing the light of day.

Always seems like Atlas Shrugged is their playbook. People work to their ability and get paid for their needs. So if you have 5 children and I have none, you make more money.
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Lobbyist is a word i haven't heard in this debate . The candidates do and say as their supporters wish . Come on guys ax1 has a point here .
 
ax1 said:
Ill just stay here and support and contribute to the growing amount of freedom loving people and restore the Bill of Rights and Constitution rather than being a coward and giving up to communist loving people like you.
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I had underwear that says communism rocks . My wife cut them up with scissors one night in a rage . I was laughing the whole time I kept calling here mrs.reagan.
 
Matthandyo said:
Also, pointing guns at cops is crime if you're black, but pointing guns at federal agents is a revolution if you're white.
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The world divided over color is very obsolete. The best thing at this point would be to focus on how to fix the problems. But being that most of us are residents of a country which will not and cannot disclose certain information based on a need to know basis. So you only need to know if you need to know, otherwise you are sold bread and butter and told no you cannot have a butter knife. I myself do not believe that the Ferguson incident and Wildlife Refuge take over in Oregon are connected in any way. Both of these incidents have separate parties separate causes separate groups and separate belief systems. Let's say for example if your brother if you have one where to be tried for a crime he did not commit and you have the resources to stand up and defend him would you? I know damn well I would and I am very very happy that we have this page to discuss these things on because it gets to the point where my wife is putting on headphones because I'm yelling at CNN... What's your take on the Guantanamo Bay prison? Do you believe that the prisoners there are innocent as well?
 
bighulksmash said:
The world divided over color is very obsolete. The best thing at this point would be to focus on how to fix the problems. But being that most of us are residents of a country which will not and cannot disclose certain information based on a need to know basis. So you only need to know if you need to know, otherwise you are sold bread and butter and told no you cannot have a butter knife. I myself do not believe that the Ferguson incident and Wildlife Refuge take over in Oregon are connected in any way. Both of these incidents have separate parties separate causes separate groups and separate belief systems. Let's say for example if your brother if you have one where to be tried for a crime he did not commit and you have the resources to stand up and defend him would you? I know damn well I would and I am very very happy that we have this page to discuss these things on because it gets to the point where my wife is putting on headphones because I'm yelling at CNN... What's your take on the Guantanamo Bay prison? Do you believe that the prisoners there are innocent as well?
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Would I defend my brother if I thought he was innocent? Of course.
Would I hijack a state ran refuge? Absolutely not.
 
Matthandyo said:
Would I defend my brother if I thought he was innocent? Of course.
Would I hijack a state ran refuge? Absolutely not.
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Invalid Link Removed federal run refuge. They choose it because the feds implemented lomger jail terms for a state offense. Rt .com also has the no punches pulled version.
 
Gutterpump said:
Yup! And now threatening conditional violence against law enforcement is considered a peaceful exercise of constitutional rights. Lol.
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Its easy for you to say, your not a victim of eminent domain.

Law enforcement is more than welcome to join the resistance. End of the day, they swore an oath to protect the constitution, so it would be their duty to join it.
 
Gutterpump said:
We've already all mostly agreed on this several weeks ago. Mentioning this again doesn't bring anything new to the debate.
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Neither does your frivolous ranting and accusing people of having psychological disorders and learning disabilities.
 
bighulksmash said:
Invalid Link Removed federal run refuge. They choose it because the feds implemented lomger jail terms for a state offense. Rt .com also has the no punches pulled version.
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Once they said they will use force if police come in armed they became not just criminals who have hijacked a building but now they are domestic terrorist.

I really hope the situation gets defused and no one gets hurt, but those guys have made it clear they plan on staying there for years and if the government try's to take the building from them they will fight.
 
ax1 said:
Neither does your frivolous ranting and accusing people of having psychological disorders and learning disabilities.
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Psychology 101 when people attack you , it usually they are insecure. First on the farm guys. Iam only here to fukk about , I have no personal opinions on religion or personal sacraments. I love this thread it gets the people going.
 
Matthandyo said:
Once they said they will use force if police come in armed they became not just criminals who have hijacked a building but now they are domestic terrorist.

I really hope the situation gets defused and no one gets hurt, but those guys have made it clear they plan on staying there for years and if the government try's to take the building from them they will fight.
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This is where the constitution comes into play . American separatism is on the rise due to a foul and corrupt government. Even though iam risking my employment. Iam not and never will be an Edward Snowden .
 
Matthandyo said:
Once they said they will use force if police come in armed they became not just criminals who have hijacked a building but now they are domestic terrorist.

I really hope the situation gets defused and no one gets hurt, but those guys have made it clear they plan on staying there for years and if the government try's to take the building from them they will fight.
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Its situational, the founding fathers went through the same issues resisting tyranny. They were considered terrorist and rebel militias causing chaos and separatism here in America by the Brits. Now the very government that praises them and take religious like oaths to protect these "former terrorists" and their written laws consider similar actions as acts of terrorism.

I damn well agree with you I hope the situation gets defused...but also I hope for another victory the way these militias freed their Cattle back in 2014 peacfully without a single shot fired.

Power comes through the barrel of a gun. Tyranny comes when there is no resistance.
 
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123abcabcabc said:
I sexually Identify as an Attack Helicopter. Ever since I was a boy I dreamed of soaring over the oilfields dropping hot sticky loads on disgusting foreigners. People say to me that a person being a helicopter is Impossible and I’m ****ing retarded but I don’t care, I’m beautiful. I’m having a plastic surgeon install rotary blades, 30 mm cannons and AMG-114 Hellfire missiles on my body. From now on I want you guys to call me “Apache” and respect me. If you can’t accept me you’re a heliphobe and need to check your vehicle privilege. Thank you for being so understanding.
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When will we be able to rep from mobile damn it?
 
Gutterpump said:
Yup! And now threatening conditional violence against law enforcement is considered a peaceful exercise of constitutional rights. Lol.
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You mean the black guy threatening g and encouraging violence against cops?
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Or these guys.
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Or these.
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