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Iron Flex Alpha-90 and offseason fun

tyga tyga said:
I want to see the workouts, sets , reps all the good stuff. But, I love detail...

On a side note, insulin.. I want to use it post show, two months after- to help grow in off season. It's going to be novolin r (since you don't need a script).. This is what I was thinking..

2-3iu pre workout (I workout at 630pm and am in bed by 1030- novolin is still peaking around 6hrs I believe, so post workout isn't an option)

50g dextrose, bcaas intra

Post workout
50g dextrose
2c cereal (fruity pebbles, cap'n crunch, cookie crisp.. Whatever)

Hour later
1c brown rice
5-6oz meat

Whatcha think?
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I wouldn't recommend insulin without HGH
way too many carbs for 2-3 ius slin
would not use anywhere near bedtime
I would not use insulin unless planning on competing
Insulin is a 4th step product meaning step 1 AAS step 2 diuretics and T3/clen etc step 3 HGH step 4 insulin
INsulin can kill you carry glucose tabs at al times wear one of those diabetic bracelts male sure wife or whoever knows what to do if you fall out


What I did with novalin...

preworkout protocol

Wake up

2.5 ius HGH
1o ius Novalin

30 miutes later
16oz pineapple juice some liquid eggwhites about 50ish carbs

off to gym
sip on drink I like juice or soda example 16oz pineapple some eggwhites or glycofuse and aminos sip until I get home if I start running out just add water

Home
Full meal
2 cups white rice
8 oz chicken breast

This is a very simple basic protocol each will vary from person to person depending on sensitivity, also 10 ius insulin isn't **** guys run insulin in the 100s of ius to get freaky big with high dose HGH
 
You mean novolin? Also, I understand insulin can kill you.. That's a given. Second, being that it's OTC, the wife will let me use it.. Anything illegal is out of the question (religious and legality reasons). I know, 2-3ius is a small amount, but I'm trying NOT to kill myself, hence the beginners dose/small dose.

Glucose tabs I can get, but I'd rather eat gummy bears :)

Edit: I am competing.. That's why I said " I will use the slin AFTER my show" to help me grow in off season.
 
mattys4 said:
you know where to find me buddy, do you have my email too? Sometimes its easier that way since im not on here much, oh wait ummmm is email too technological for you??? we can just chat here HAHA Yes sir its important for me to stay fairly lean year round. Took me a long time lots of trial and error emphasis on error to figure this out even just slightly still have lots and lots to learn answer below answer below ALight guys been a few days since Ive updated so some good stuff happening Notes * Full effect right now think day 10 maybe? but im rockin and rolling with this shet * STrength up weights do not feel heavy even up until failure * Squared away diet dropped a bunch of bloat water glycogen whatever look much better now. * zero sides even today not even a back pump doing stiff leg deads or shin pump during cardio * I feel like this is a real good dose. NO neeed for higher dosing but im considering making this a 6-8 weeker * would love to stck with EPI...... this is one of them light bulb over the head moemnts DO people want to see detailed workouts???? DOes anyone want to see daily food intake??? Id be more then happy to talk about this stuff if anyone is interested. HOw bout questions related to anything fitness related, for you guys that don't know Im a national level competitor, fitness model and own a contest prep company Id be more then happy to get some discussion about anything fitness related or even PH/AAS/HGH/INSULIN use not uch action in here LOL
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Always enjoy your detail bud. Diet training etc.
 
tyga tyga said:
You mean novolin? Also, I understand insulin can kill you.. That's a given. Second, being that it's OTC, the wife will let me use it.. Anything illegal is out of the question (religious and legality reasons). I know, 2-3ius is a small amount, but I'm trying NOT to kill myself, hence the beginners dose/small dose.

Glucose tabs I can get, but I'd rather eat gummy bears :)

Edit: I am competing.. That's why I said " I will use the slin AFTER my show" to help me grow in off season.
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no slin without HGH
 
mattys4 said:
might not matter since your dosing so low but I dont think 2-3 ius will really be worth doing anyway
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What if he had clinical grade GHRP/Mod GRF 1-29, taking 3 times a day, would that not suffice? There is a load of data on DATBTRUE's website that shows successful peptide + slin cycles.
 
fueledpassion said:
What if he had clinical grade GHRP/Mod GRF 1-29, taking 3 times a day, would that not suffice? There is a load of data on DATBTRUE's website that shows successful peptide + slin cycles.
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datbtrue is a good place for.info. i personally wouldnt go that route. The difference between ghrp and actually hgh is huge.
 
Matty gave me a lot of great info! I've never used a pro before and I'm getting ready to do my first epi run! Very excited! I'm getting my stack together, almost complete but I need more epi to make it a badass run. Just trying to figure out which brand to use. The Xcel epi is what I'm leaning towards, any suggestions.
 
pete8407 said:
Matty gave me a lot of great info! I've never used a pro before and I'm getting ready to do my first epi run! Very excited! I'm getting my stack together, almost complete but I need more epi to make it a badass run. Just trying to figure out which brand to use. The Xcel epi is what I'm leaning towards, any suggestions.
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You should look at our Epi called Brawn.. It's dosed at 15mg per pill and if you use code DEC25 on our site you get 25% off.. This code expires after Christmas..
 
bcazo said:
You should look at our Epi called Brawn.. It's dosed at 15mg per pill and if you use code DEC25 on our site you get 25% off.. This code expires after Christmas..
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Actually it's good until the first of the year my man :)
 
updates........

A90 in full effect strong as hell hit a PR yesterday on leg press 20 plates for 20 reps knees to nipples each one. Needed a ittle assistance for the last 2-3 but I was super impressed even surprised how easy that was.

Interesting effect is that a90 seems to let you hold extra glycogen or water but does so in a good way. Even first thing AM I still look full. So as we know BBing is mostly illusion a90 helpin give the illusion that your bigger more muscular then you really are. This to me is interesting it could be very helpful in prep during peak week. Ive used anadrol in the past peak week to help with the illusion this has a similar effect ill need to play around more to see if its possible (im not lean enough to really judge this at the moment) but im hopefull.

So you can see im not very lean right now. Holding a lot of water and bloat, but its water and bloat not a ton of fat some diuretics maybe some letro and a few days of "clean" eating and Id be ready fo a photo shoot but what im noticing most is my shoulders... this pic taken this morning about 9 oclock I haven't eaten anything since like 7pm yesterday so I should be quite flat looking but shoulders look full and round even to the point pic doesn't sho it well but where my rear delts can be seen from the front giving you that cool 3d look. Ill try to get a better pic to help explain this better LOL.

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Crazy how strong I am right now. I ended up
sick yesterday throwing up and in bed all day.
Still hit the gym today and while my workout
was very slow paced I feel it was effective and
I could push weight easy it just felt light.

So workout today push day

smith incline
decline DB press
Cable flys FST-7 and ladder style

weighted dips
overhead extensions with rope
underhand press downs

DB shoulder press
side raises

Like I said very slow paced usually my
workout are about 40-50 minutes if not doing
cardio this one was 80 minutes
 

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bcazo said:
Wow!!! Great update looking like a beast in that last pic!!!
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Thank you sir

If only strength gains were parrellell with size gains lol. New PR today again clapper pullups will update later
 
mattys4 said:
Thank you sir If only strength gains were parrellell with size gains lol. New PR today again clapper pullups will update later
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Dudes so beastly, standard pull ups aren't enough for him lol
 
bcazo said:
Wow here come the gains!!! I need to see what 6 weeks would do for you... LOL
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I know Ive been thinking about it.......
 
I really want to run this with some epistane. Love epi its my favorite "ph" i thought it was a waste until someone suggested i run it at 100mgs a day. It was godly at that dose did 8 weeks epi my last prep
 
mattys4 said:
I really want to run this with some epistane. Love epi its my favorite "ph" i thought it was a waste until someone suggested i run it at 100mgs a day. It was godly at that dose did 8 weeks epi my last prep
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I've done Epi at 60, can't imagine what 100 is like.. Did it kill your joints?? Cause it took a toll on mine..
 
mattys4 said:
I really want to run this with some epistane. Love epi its my favorite "ph" i thought it was a waste until someone suggested i run it at 100mgs a day. It was godly at that dose did 8 weeks epi my last prep
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I've heard that before...

What was the biggest difference compared to the 'regular' 60mgs ?

I also like epi a lot, but never went over 60 ( have to say I ran it along 10mg of superdrol for 6 weeks)
 
bcazo said:
I've done Epi at 60, can't imagine what 100 is like.. Did it kill your joints?? Cause it took a toll on mine..
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No i felt great actually. I was looking for a winstrol or anavar substitute. Winstrol kills my joints anavar is crazy expensive but its a great drug. Epi at 100mgs is better then either of those at same dose. Not UGL **** either im talking HG anavar and id till prefer epi
 
edje007 said:
I've heard that before...

What was the biggest difference compared to the 'regular' 60mgs ?

I also like epi a lot, but never went over 60 ( have to say I ran it along 10mg of superdrol for 6 weeks)
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60 i didnt notice.much of anything. at 100 it was completely different. I was prepping for a show and my strength was ridiculous, i stayed very full and vascular even on a prep diet when depleted. Daily noticible body comp changes. Also noticed that it has a "pre workout" effect. I would take maybe 40-60 mgs bout an hour pre and just intensity levels were unbelievable
 
mattys4 said:
60 i didnt notice.much of anything. at 100 it was completely different. I was prepping for a show and my strength was ridiculous, i stayed very full and vascular even on a prep diet when depleted. Daily noticible body comp changes. Also noticed that it has a "pre workout" effect. I would take maybe 40-60 mgs bout an hour pre and just intensity levels were unbelievable
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I've noticed the same pre workout effect, it's awesome
 
bcazo said:
I've noticed the same pre workout effect, it's awesome
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Ya man it really is. Theres a preworkout with epi in it available that i really like. They were ripping on it on LO forums all the sns guys even greg saying how useless it is lol.
 
mattys4 said:
Ya man it really is. Theres a preworkout with epi in it available that i really like. They were ripping on it on LO forums all the sns guys even greg saying how useless it is lol.
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Lol!! Bet they said xgels where better :) lmao
 
I saw em rippin on xcel lol

Oh well, it's just the interwebz..
 
Off day today. Things still going well. Very lean considering my diet has sucked lately.

Weight right about 210ish



Coach wants me to run insulin for awhile lantus and humolog i have both but am.defnitly not structured enough at the.moment to play with that ill wait till the move is over and im settles
 
Thanks for all your advice matty! I finally have my stack together and I am going to run the epistane at higher doses like you did, can't wait!
 
pete8407 said:
Thanks for all your advice matty! I finally have my stack together and I am going to run the epistane at higher doses like you did, can't wait!
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I ran it at 60mg before and liked it. Couldn't imagine 80mg let alone 100mg lol
 
pete8407 said:
Thanks for all your advice matty! I finally have my stack together and I am going to run the epistane at higher doses like you did, can't wait!
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nice man keep me posted how it goes if you log it feel free to post link in here

bcazo said:
never can go wrong with Epi!!
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edje007 said:
Yep....always delivers. Damn, so many options for next year;)
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epi is my favorite I love that stuff I may just have to hop on after this cycle. I have a hexadrone/epi stack 105mgs/90mgs that I have been staring at awhile I may follow this up with that hex/epi hmmmmmmm

tyga tyga said:
I ran it at 60mg before and liked it. Couldn't imagine 80mg let alone 100mg lol
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100 is amazing 50 did nothing for me.

edje007 said:
Seems we have some experimenting to do....all in the name of science ofcourse;)
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of course

bcazo said:
LOL 60mg for 8 weeks was fun over the summer... ;)
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Im sure ive noticed it keeps getting better the longer your on I never pushed past 8 with epi though not because I thought I was hurting myself but because I just stopped orals after a show.

halfhuman said:
What?! 8 weeks and at 60mg? U loco son
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cant tell if serious or not? nothing wrong with 8 week oral cycles

Sold my car today, didnt plan ahead and book a rental now no car for gym tomorow and effin rental car places are closed unless I want to find a ride 60 minutes away then back to drop it off on monday. Gonna have to hitchhike to gym tomorow.

So speaking of gym tomorow any one elses gym open late? mine opens at 11am..... gym is catering to new years partyers now I guess LOL
 
mattys4 said:
nice man keep me posted how it goes if you log it feel free to post link in here epi is my favorite I love that stuff I may just have to hop on after this cycle. I have a hexadrone/epi stack 105mgs/90mgs that I have been staring at awhile I may follow this up with that hex/epi hmmmmmmm 100 is amazing 50 did nothing for me. of course Im sure ive noticed it keeps getting better the longer your on I never pushed past 8 with epi though not because I thought I was hurting myself but because I just stopped orals after a show. cant tell if serious or not? nothing wrong with 8 week oral cycles Sold my car today, didnt plan ahead and book a rental now no car for gym tomorow and effin rental car places are closed unless I want to find a ride 60 minutes away then back to drop it off on monday. Gonna have to hitchhike to gym tomorow. So speaking of gym tomorow any one elses gym open late? mine opens at 11am..... gym is catering to new years partyers now I guess LOL
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Mines a 24hr gym. Use a keypad code to get in :)
 
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