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13 Weeks to RPS Rawdawg Nats: Herder's PUUUGHE Comeback

I think I am done with cutting unless it has meaning. Like qualifying for something, making a record, winning a class, etc. I'm too old and not strong enough to worry at this time. I do understand why people do though.

Edit: strong cut Rodja. Sound brutal
 
Rodja said:
Most I've ever done was 17# (dropped from 186 to 169) when I was fighting. That was a nightmare.
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That had to have been. There's a huge difference between cutting when you're heavy and in powerlifter shape compared to when you're already conditioned to the balls and rather light.
 
napalm said:
Alex's 28 in a week is the sickest I've ever seen...
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Fück, I can only imagine what that looks like in person. I'm taking cut and bloat pictures. For real this time.
 
herderdude said:
Fück, I can only imagine what that looks like in person. I'm taking cut and bloat pictures. For real this time.
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Herder, when I met the dude for the first time he was spitting in a cup.

That's never a good sign. He was in the ER 10 hours later...
 
napalm said:
Herder, when I met the dude for the first time he was spitting in a cup. That's never a good sign. He was in the ER 10 hours later...
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It's a bad sigh if he's trying to cut that much. Awesome that he made thou.
 
Rodja said:
I don't like them that much.
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I can see that, not Alex but training partners.

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I guess it's a fine line w training partners. I haven't been part of a crew in prolly 15 yrs when I was at the powerhouse in the ghetto. This will prolly change when I change gyms here shortly...we'll see...
 
Rodja said:
Evan and I have a running joke that we're going to put out an ad for new training partners.
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I only met him that one time. Now him, I can see being a little more serious.

He never saw me a day in his life, but when I needed somebody to call me, he was right there, and, got me 5 more lbs...
 
napalm said:
Herder, when I met the dude for the first time he was spitting in a cup.

That's never a good sign. He was in the ER 10 hours later...
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When making weight, spitting is a sign of desperation. But pretty much everyone who has met me in the last six years has met me spitting into a cup as well. Lol.
 
herderdude said:
When making weight, spitting is a sign of desperation. But pretty much everyone who has met me in the last six years has met me spitting into a cup as well. Lol.
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Heard you could easily drop a few by spitting for a few hours
 
smoker145 said:
Heard you could easily drop a few by spitting for a few hours
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Why do you think 60% of wrestlers and fighters chew?

EDIT: Bullshït anecdotal number, likely very accurate.
 
smoker145 said:
Lol never thought about it like that lol. Gotta pick up some skoal for the car ride Sunday now
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Yep, dropping weight and appetite suppression. Hell, my buddy I'm going to see this weekend used to buy a can of Grizzly and put as much as he could fit inside his mouth (like 3/4 can) to buzz his way into puking. Besides, is it a road trip without chew? Not in my life.
 
Yeah, my drug of choice definitely has the opposite effect of dip, lol.
 
herderdude said:
Yep, dropping weight and appetite suppression. Hell, my buddy I'm going to see this weekend used to buy a can of Grizzly and put as much as he could fit inside his mouth (like 3/4 can) to buzz his way into puking. Besides, is it a road trip without chew? Not in my life.
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I feel the same way with cigs . If I drive more than 10 min, it's needed
 
Sean1332 said:
Maybe that's why DL PR's seem to follow you!
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It's funny, because of all the lifts that should go up with increased mass, I would say DL is towards the bottom of the list along with bb rows, pullups, dips, and sprints. Yet somehow that's not the case.
 
Torobestia said:
Yeah, my drug of choice definitely has the opposite effect of dip, lol.
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Lol. I enjoyed that stuff a little too much for my own good. It would be great for adding size, but I would be shït out of luck with the rest of life's endeavors.
 
So you'd say the cut is going good?
 

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Lol. You're acting like you're not the four thousandth person to eat ice cream six inches from my face and make orgasm sounds to make me feel like shït. This ain't my first rodeo, buddy. I was 12 years old the first season I had to cut weight. Probably why I only grew three inches the rest of my life.
 
Hey don't get so sassy with me I'm just poking some fun big hoss. You can get some as soon as you weigh in.

Also did you notice there are waffles in there too?
 
CountryLiftin said:
Hey don't get so sassy with me I'm just poking some fun big hoss. You can get some as soon as you weigh in.

Also did you notice there are waffles in there too?
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Didn't mean to sound snippy at all, bud. Sorry about that. Honestly, this is the cheeriest cut I've had yet. There's a place in Pgh called DiLuca's where you can order a meal exactly like what's on that plate. Amazeballs.
 
Haha I didn't think you were, just wanted you to know I wasn't tryin to be a d*ck. Okay maybe a little. I will have to check it out sometime. I was craving some carbs. Can't imagine how you are, but I'm glad you're having a cheery cut haha. I had a lot of good friends who wrestled and remember sitting by one of my best friends watching movies while he spit in a trash can in class. Good times. Only thing I would lose weight for is track season which is just dieting not hard core cutting. As a lover of food, this is hard. That's why we are powerlifters. We like food almost as much as lifting.
 
CountryLiftin said:
Haha I didn't think you were, just wanted you to know I wasn't tryin to be a d*ck. Okay maybe a little. I will have to check it out sometime. I was craving some carbs. Can't imagine how you are, but I'm glad you're having a cheery cut haha. I had a lot of good friends who wrestled and remember sitting by one of my best friends watching movies while he spit in a trash can in class. Good times. Only thing I would lose weight for is track season which is just dieting not hard core cutting. As a lover of food, this is hard. That's why we are powerlifters. We like food almost as much as lifting.
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Not true.


I ****ing hate food.
 
I actually like food more than I like lifting. Think about it. Some days, I'm scheduled to lift but I don't, but I eat every day. Except most of tomorrow and most of Saturday.
 
herderdude said:
I actually like food more than I like lifting. Think about it. Some days, I'm scheduled to lift but I don't, but I eat every day. Except most of tomorrow and most of Saturday.
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But, would you train everyday if it was beneficial? I think I would.

I still like food more, lol.
 
CincyKiller45 said:
But, would you train everyday if it was beneficial? I think I would.

I still like food more, lol.
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Nah. I don't have much of a life outside of the gym, but going in and hitting numbers day after day gets nerve-wracking for me. I can think of six to eight sessions this training cycle that absolutely terrified me. 8 rep squats with 355, 8 rep deads with 365, speed squats with 385, pretty much any rep or speed deadlift or squat day. Then the heavy days about 5 weeks out, before I really had momentum on my side. I had no idea where I'd be. That scares the shït out of me. I love it, I wouldn't trade it, but I hate it at the same time.

It's why I got the results, though. Got out of my comfort zone.
 
So... Jim's a lightweight cause he don't like food, herd's a lightweight cause he don't like lifting, Cincy just wants to be an MMA fighter and I just like to eat waffles.

It all makes sense now.
 
Lol. I learned some subs and grapple tactics from a guy that's in the movie Warrior as an extra.

He came to roll with the club wrestling team at my third college. I thought, this guy's 60 years old, 300-odd pounds of pure fat, and can hardly breathe or walk. I was an NCAA wrestler. I'll take him.

Then he whooped my ass. I had to learn his ways. I learned a little bit of this'n'that, nothing too serious. It was cool. We'd go to parks and hit it in the grass, sneak into wrestling rooms, wherever we could. I didn't think like so many guys who get into it so they can say, "Oh, I'm a badass." I actually never told anyone except guys I thought would like to try it. I've had my ass handed to me far too many times on the mat to ever think that I'm tough shït, even if I ever do grow up to be a badass one day. I feel like all of you guys know what I mean and are the same way. You've done it, you've learned, you can handle your own, but you don't care to boast, because there's always somebody bigger, stronger, and badder. Always.

One time a park ranger rolled up on us while we were rolling and elbowing each other. He's like, "Everything alright here?" "Oh yeah, just training." The guy didn't know what to say, he just laughed and left.
 
herderdude said:
Lol. I learned some gay stuff from a guy that's in the movie Big Black Dudes IV.

He came to roll with the club wrestling team at my third college. I thought, this guy's 60 years old, 300-odd pounds of pure fat, and can hardly breathe or walk. I was an NCAA wrestler. I'll take him.

Then he banged me in my ass. I had to learn his ways. I learned a little bit of this'n'that, nothing too serious. It was cool. We'd go to parks and "hit it" in the grass, sneak into wrestling rooms, wherever we could. I didn't think like so many guys who get into it so they can say, "Oh, I take it in the ass." I actually never told anyone except guys I thought would like to try it. I've had my ass railed far too many times. I left him though, there's always somebody bigger, stronger, and badder. Always. That's how I met the cop...

One time a park ranger rolled up on us while we were rolling and elbowing each other. He's like, "Everything alright here?" "Oh yeah, just banging." The guy didn't know what to say, he just laughed and left me his number.
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You were asking for it...



But in all seriousness, yeah. I learned it because I had family that fought/wrestled and friends who actually trained. Being able to defend yourself and your family is a good thing, especially w/ all the weirdos out there today.
 
CountryLiftin said:
You were asking for it...

But in all seriousness, yeah. I learned it because I had family that fought/wrestled and friends who actually trained. Being able to defend yourself and your family is a good thing, especially w/ all the weirdos out there today.
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Methinks you put a little too much time into that one, youngin.
 
I think you're right. The part about sneaking into wrestling rooms was a little much for me though. I mean hey you need some entertainment anyways don't you?
 
Truth is often stranger than fiction, my friend. Dude just loved MMA and tried to reach out to as many as he could through it. He often told me I was keeping his health afloat. And then six months after we stopped grappling, he died.
 
Weight 227. Magnesium citrate is one of the most vile concoctions ever brewed. It's also heavily carbonated, so you can't knock it back in one go.

You ever get that feeling in your stomach that something bad is about to happen? I'm sitting (literally) on a ticking time bomb. Weight is probably 226 now, just had a quick deuce.

Transporting my doctor's scale may have thrown it out of whack. I'll be stepping on a wrestling scale with the little certification sticker on it sometime after EFS to see just how bad my scale has gotten.

I just want to know the truth about my weight . . .
 
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