prld2gr8ns
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Who is Anthony and Shana? Interesting on the HR3 stuff. I noticed the other day that it's no longer on the site.
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Who is Anthony and Shana? Interesting on the HR3 stuff. I noticed the other day that it's no longer on the site.
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A rep and manager for the company I assume, Shana was always copied on all emails sent to me. What do you think of my above ideas? I can always add in a small amount of Spironolactone, and I use 5% normal Rogaine at least once per day out of the shower.
prld2gr8ns
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Looks solid to me man. Though I'm far from an expert. Should work well as a basic preventative measure.
CEDeoudes59
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yeah that's weird, I agreed with test one of their products too - but never heard back from them.
they had all these pictures of mice covered with hair, kinda freaky - but interesting
I never had much luck with spirolactone, so I don't recommend it. It doesn't actually destroy DHT - it somehow covers the receptors that the DHT attaches to. While peer reviewed medical studies say that it can effectively do this - it didn't work for me. Maybe it was the carrier into those spiro creams.
Either way, I think minoxidil is underrated. It cuts down on hair loss and keeps your hair in the anagen-growth phase. I have much less hair loss when showering when I use minoxidil and then when I don't for a few weeks:
(as said on the website):
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Men who used 5% minoxidil for a year lowered their hair loss from washing (when taking a shower)from a mean of 69.7 hairs to 33.8 hairs.
so if you put together your own formula I suggest you throw from minoxidil in there.
Jessep76
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You might add in a good Pumpkin Seed Oil to help the SP block the DHT.
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I'm going to forgo the Spiro
I really didn't see much if anything from it, only itching, haha! Also, I will never stop using Rogaine, I will always use it right out of the shower since it absorbs better when the scalp is wet.
Oh, the little formulation I'm putting together with the caffeine and saw palmetto is on the way, I just have to dump the caps into the shampoo I already use, Need 2 Shampoo, and I chose to skip over using Arginine to increase the blood flow on the scalp, just because with the other supplements I ordered for health support on-cycle my total was already around $500.
Doh, now you tell me haha! I already ordered the SP and Caffeine caps... does Pumpkin Seed Oil in either power or gelcap form, really aid in SP's ability to block DHT locally at the site of application synergistically?
prld2gr8ns
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Something else you may want to consider is getting the SP and Caffeine in bulk powder form from places like beyond a century and what not. Caps usually put in extra filler that block the product from going into solution. Plus the filler will just sit in the shampoo....
Jessep76
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I'm going to forgo the Spiro
Also, I will never stop using Rogaine, I will always use it right out of the shower since it absorbs better when the scalp is wet.
Oh, the little formulation I'm putting together with the caffeine and saw palmetto is on the way, I just have to dump the caps into the shampoo I already use, Need 2 Shampoo, and I chose to skip over using Arginine to increase the blood flow on the scalp, just because with the other supplements I ordered for health support on-cycle my total was already around $500.
Doh, now you tell me haha! I already ordered the SP and Caffeine caps... does Pumpkin Seed Oil in either power or gelcap form, really aid in SP's ability to block DHT locally at the site of application synergistically?
Crap sorry..vacation in all lol. I was looking over supplements with effect on prostate and (I think it was pubmed) most findings were more in favor of pumpkin seed oil being the stronger. This may have been more in the way of prostate health than DHT blocking (I think they can go hand in hand), but it says to have more promise than Saw Pal. The best/cheapest I found was NOW Pumpkin Seed Oil. Its high dosed and NOW seems to always have good stuff. Most other products INCLUDE pumpkin seed oil but who knows what quality or if its even any amount worth taking. Milk Thistle has a health benefit to the prostate I also read, but it can possibly hurt some of the gains on cycle.
In some studies Flaxseed can be good for the prostate over all health. Would be cool to have a support supplement all in one oil in the future. Fish/Flax/Sesamin/Pumpkin Seed Oil for your cycle needs.
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Great idea! I will definitely be doing that. Do you see any holes where perhaps I should add something else to increase follicle strength and encourage any regrowth possible over the long term?
AH MAN, haha, after you made that post I added the NOW Pumkin Seed Oil to my order and it's always in process... I oughtta!
prld2gr8ns
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Maybe biotin or full spectrum vitamin E. A two pronged attack with your custom topical and an oral supplement that contains Tocomine would be pretty nice.
Jessep76
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Pumpkin Seed by NOW should do it. I assume you have plenty of other support supps too. Just incorporate the free prostate health rules. Tons of water, and go pee and poo even when you don't think you need to....if you can. The less pressure on the prost the happier it is. That includes not holding in farts if you are at work or in the car with someone important. Just cough loud like I do lol.
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prld2gr8ns said:
Thanks a lot... I used to use Biotin religiously, I will look back into that. The Vitamin-E is a great idea, I will look for the Tocomine
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Haha, wow, I never knew that. Oh and it isn't the cough that I am worried about, its the nuclear fallout, haaaaa!
CEDeoudes59
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let us know how it goes... i've never put together a home made formula that actually did anything
and I tried ketconazole powder, caffeine, spiro, etc etc.
and I tried ketconazole powder, caffeine, spiro, etc etc.
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You got it.
I'm planning on getting surgical hair transplant in my 30's when the day comes anyway... it's about $15,000.
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i've gotten 2 procedures, albeit smaller procedures, for a total of $9500
they came out pretty good, let me know if you want info/resources
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That's really good to hear. I am only worried about any scars being visible, because I like to keep my hair short and tight.
When the time finally does come, I am going to go to a renowned plastic surgery wing of one of the nation's top hospitals, like the Cleveland Clinic for example, rather than the hair transplant or regrowth facilities. Thoughts?
When the time finally does come, I am going to go to a renowned plastic surgery wing of one of the nation's top hospitals, like the Cleveland Clinic for example, rather than the hair transplant or regrowth facilities. Thoughts?
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Daymn you must got mad scrilla. Lol and you complaining about some lil Pumpkin Seed oil
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Daymn you must got mad scrilla. Lol and you complaining about some lil Pumpkin Seed oil
Haaaa, no... I know it may seem like that, but I am an absolute average middle class dude. The difference is, when I really... really... want something, I go through semi-insane extremes regarding saving money and sacrificing, to make it happen. My Super Stallion as an example; I have $50,000 easily put into the car already after less than a year, and still counting, but I scraped every penny for YEARS to make that dream a reality. I think it's the bodybuilding mentality. I'll go without a movie ticket, a meal out at a restaurant, or a single dollar on new clothes for a LONG time, if it means eventuating my goals
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Haaaa, no... I know it may seem like that, but I am an absolute average middle class dude. The difference is, when I really... really... want something, I go through semi-insane extremes regarding saving money and sacrificing, to make it happen. My Super Stallion as an example; I have $50,000 easily put into the car already after less than a year, and still counting, but I scraped every penny for YEARS to make that dream a reality. I think it's the bodybuilding mentality. I'll go without a movie ticket, a meal out at a restaurant, or a single dollar on new clothes for a LONG time, if it means eventuating my goals
I can do that but it all goes out the window when it comes to broads. I tell myself, "only spending 25 tonight" and 4 hours later its 50.
what could this stuff be??
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Histogen
Hair stimulating complex - injections of growth factors into the scalp. Pilot trial had continued growth for a year after one treatment.
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Replicel
Harvesting of hair sheaths and culturing them for reinjection into thinning areas where they rebuild follicles.
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Hair stimulating complex - injections of growth factors into the scalp. Pilot trial had continued growth for a year after one treatment.
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Replicel
Harvesting of hair sheaths and culturing them for reinjection into thinning areas where they rebuild follicles.
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I have it, used it for about four months, maybe five months... and now it just sits in my shower holder. I don't know if I ever saw any benefit from it, but I just stopped using it altogether. I don't know, I always felt it did more to strip away the layer of build up that 'can' impeded hair growth I suppose, rather than encourage re-growth and follicle health.
Maybe I should start using it again, I'm just not a big believer you could say.
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No posts in almost a week in this mega-thread... say WHAT!?
PS: I am making my home-brew concoction of Need 2 Shampoo + additional pure Caffeine powder + Saw Palmetto powder, this week!
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What's the main use of beta-s, and do you or ANYONE know where I can find 20% Minoxidil?
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Something new I have to research? Ugh!
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From CEDeoudes59's, hair loss from steriods video. Apparently its eating all the protein out of our hair and 3 out of 3 different brand shampoos I have contain it.
CEDeoudes59
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that's good that you have access to the Cleveland Clinic, but I don't think its necessary... While a hair restoration procedure is certainly a significant procedure -- it's not brain surgery (so to speak). You definitely want to avoid Bosley, but you don't have to pay a fortune to get world class work done.
these seem to be the best resources for finding a world class hair transplant doctor that doesn't charge ridiculous prices:
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I found both of my doctors on there. Dr. Glenn Charles (highly recommended) and Dr. Ken Siporin (recommended)
this is the results of my procedure with Dr. Charles, again it was a smaller procedure
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a member at hairlosshelp called the manufacturer - they are aware of the shortage, but offered no timetable on restocking the market
nizoral works good, but so will any ketoconazole shampoo.
these are my recommendations:
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i've used all of them.
these products are probably aren't new news to you, but they are more effective than Nizoral without the side effects (dry scalp, potential inflammation)
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yeah Regenepure is the only one that doesn't have it.
the thing is, althought SLS is a cheap ingredient, it seems to give 'volume' to your hair. Regenepure leaves my hair pretty lifeless - I follow it up with Nioxin shampoo that adds a significant amount of volume to it. I just wanted to make people aware of this... I can picture some people looking in the mirror and saying "what the hell? my hair looks like ****, this shampoo blows" after using Regenepure. That's my experience anyway, but it's probably the best out of all the shampoo for hair loss.
CEDeoudes59
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the hippie vegan crowd is on a sodium laurel sulfate which hunt... and its used because it is such a cheap ingredient. But I wouldn't quite parallel it with 'partially hydrogenated oil' which is cheap and just terrible for you.. SLS seems to have a few benefits though (mentioned above) it seems add volume to your hair - at least I think so
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Just not something you want to leave in for a while though right? I was kinda doing that with the prescribed Keto shampoo.
I haven't found SLS in my conditioner so maybe leaving that in for a bit would give some improvements where the Regene is lacking...
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Oh, so SLS isn't good, so to say. I saw a couple shampoos that add protein to the hair's 'shaft' so that might counteract that effect.
Doh, maybe I should have purchased that in stead of the full Saw Palmetto capsules.
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I repped you again, you're so helpful and I GREATLY appreciate it.
I starting using my Nizoral again, and will swap out to one of your suggestions above when it's out. What the best choice in the market in your opinion?
I have their website up right now, and there are so many products out there to choose from, but your glowing review is making it easier. I am thinking of changing up from Need 2 Shampoo, and going with a more traditional product from a company who has the sole purpose of researching these types of things, rather than Need 2 Build Muscle who make supplements.
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PS: Why don't you suggest Dualgen's 15% Rogaine/5% Alzelaic Acid, and only Perfect Image? The Dualgen is $5 less, so it's no big deal just wondering.
So in your opinion reading through your website this is your perfect plan:
1. Regenepure DR in stead of Nizoral 2%, for Ketoconazole content (but doesn't Perfect Image Solution's Hair Regrowth Shampoo contain more Ketoconazole?)
2. 15% Minoxidil + 5% Alzelaic Acid mixture 2x/day
3. Am I missing anything (I won't do Dutasteride anymore, I felt as though it affected me sexually but even more so I believe inhibiting circulating systemic DHT would be plain stupid when taking steroids)
What about an addition of something I home-brewed like Need 2 Shampoo with added Caffeine and Saw Palmetto for example? Lather it all (both shampoos) up together on my head first thing when I get in the shower, and leave it on the whole shower until the very end (this is what I always do anyway).
What about 'ancillary' interventions and help, like biotin (topical or capsule) or anything oral that contains a blend of nutrients to strengthen hair follicles, or perhaps something that adds protein to the hair shaft? DHT-type steroids work the best in many situations, so I don't want to stray from them, and also don't want to block ALL INTERNAL DHT circulation, only scalp-specific!
*Q: is the best shampoo/method of avoiding THIS so Minoxidil will work its best!?: "Sebum from sebaceous gland blocks the hair follicle. Minoxidil therefore, cannot penetrate through the sebum as easily to get to the dermal papilla (where hair growth occurs)."
*Q2: What are your thoughts on NANO Shampoo, and does it serve a place in the perfect-shampoo-combo anywhere, or is it useless with the others mentioned above?
So in your opinion reading through your website this is your perfect plan:
1. Regenepure DR in stead of Nizoral 2%, for Ketoconazole content (but doesn't Perfect Image Solution's Hair Regrowth Shampoo contain more Ketoconazole?)
2. 15% Minoxidil + 5% Alzelaic Acid mixture 2x/day
3. Am I missing anything (I won't do Dutasteride anymore, I felt as though it affected me sexually but even more so I believe inhibiting circulating systemic DHT would be plain stupid when taking steroids)
What about an addition of something I home-brewed like Need 2 Shampoo with added Caffeine and Saw Palmetto for example? Lather it all (both shampoos) up together on my head first thing when I get in the shower, and leave it on the whole shower until the very end (this is what I always do anyway).
What about 'ancillary' interventions and help, like biotin (topical or capsule) or anything oral that contains a blend of nutrients to strengthen hair follicles, or perhaps something that adds protein to the hair shaft? DHT-type steroids work the best in many situations, so I don't want to stray from them, and also don't want to block ALL INTERNAL DHT circulation, only scalp-specific!
*Q: is the best shampoo/method of avoiding THIS so Minoxidil will work its best!?: "Sebum from sebaceous gland blocks the hair follicle. Minoxidil therefore, cannot penetrate through the sebum as easily to get to the dermal papilla (where hair growth occurs)."
*Q2: What are your thoughts on NANO Shampoo, and does it serve a place in the perfect-shampoo-combo anywhere, or is it useless with the others mentioned above?
CEDeoudes59
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Yup that's my thoughts exactly. Short exposures to SLS probably isn't bad. However, it is suggested to leave the ketoconazole on your head for 4 to 5 minutes. That's not long. But it depends on how often you shower (and shampoo) a day. I shower 1-2 times, so I try to avoid using any shampoos/conditioners more than 1 time.
Shampoos like Tricomin and Nioxin (especially the first one) really add significant volume to your hair. It's really noticeable. Especially if your hair isn't too dense to begin with.
I really encourage you guys to look into Invalid Link Removed -- I got some pictures on my site of how awesome toppik (and its clones are)... it truly does give you are full head of hair. If not for toppik, I'd definitely get another transplant or consider shaving my head. It's nearly completely undetectable once you figure out how to use it.
I'm not sure if Nizoral has SLS, I'm guesing it does - since 95% of shampoos seem to have it. Nizoral def. helps control hair loss but it's harsh for most guys and dries out the scalp. It's really meant to be used 1 or 2 times a week - but a lot of us use it daily.
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Oh, so SLS isn't good, so to say. I saw a couple shampoos that add protein to the hair's 'shaft' so that might counteract that effect.
Doh, maybe I should have purchased that in stead of the full Saw Palmetto capsules.
The picture link didn't work...
I repped you again, you're so helpful and I GREATLY appreciate it.
I starting using my Nizoral again, and will swap out to one of your suggestions above when it's out. What the best choice in the market in your opinion?
I have their website up right now, and there are so many products out there to choose from, but your glowing review is making it easier. I am thinking of changing up from Need 2 Shampoo, and going with a more traditional product from a company who has the sole purpose of researching these types of things, rather than Need 2 Build Muscle who make supplements.
here's my thoughts on all the ketoconazole shampoos: Invalid Link Removed
all are preferable to Nizoral, since they all have ingredients that combat inflammation and the dry scalp that is often associated with Nizoral
lemme see if I can grab my hair transplant blog
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select author: ChrisHT_by_DrCharles
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that site and hairlosshelp.com are the best resources to find personal experiences with hair transplant doctors
there's been some chatter about how the 'hair transplant network' actively promote certain doctors... I looked into this - and I don't think there are ethical concerns. I found my 2 doctors on there and I'm happy with the results.
the forum does have its share of members that are sort of 'cheerleaders' for certain doctors (and doctors they haven't used sometimes) but the hair transplant blogs tell the story - all the work is outstanding. Unlike before/after pictures on doctor's sites, the blogs show verifiable progress and results.
people seems to 'hate' on Bosley... it's a bit of a generalization, but the problem with Bosley is you don't have the chance to meet your doctor until the day of the surgery apparently. The doctor could be good or not so good. I don't like how they advertise on television, but if I ran Bosley - I'd probably do the same thing. It's also a misconception that Bosley has the best prices - most of the doctors on hairlosshelp and the hairtransplanetnetwork have equal or lower prices, and do more consistent and better work (from what I have seen).
Just make sure you check out all of the independent forums before you select a doctor
here's a few forums -
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^ some of the members on one forum bash the other forums... just ignore that junk.. not one forum is more or less credible than the other, a good doctor (and there are many) will have very good reviews on all the forums
if you've settled on a doctor - mention that you've been referred by a certain forum and you're willing to do a blog and record your progress, most doctors will give you a 10% or 500$ discount. try to make sure you do the blog, take a picture every few months.
CEDeoudes59
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PS: Why don't you suggest Dualgen's 15% Rogaine/5% Alzelaic Acid, and only Perfect Image? The Dualgen is $5 less, so it's no big deal just wondering.
So in your opinion reading through your website this is your perfect plan:
1. Regenepure DR in stead of Nizoral 2%, for Ketoconazole content (but doesn't Perfect Image Solution's Hair Regrowth Shampoo contain more Ketoconazole?)
2. 15% Minoxidil + 5% Alzelaic Acid mixture 2x/day
3. Am I missing anything (I won't do Dutasteride anymore, I felt as though it affected me sexually but even more so I believe inhibiting circulating systemic DHT would be plain stupid when taking steroids)
What about an addition of something I home-brewed like Need 2 Shampoo with added Caffeine and Saw Palmetto for example? Lather it all (both shampoos) up together on my head first thing when I get in the shower, and leave it on the whole shower until the very end (this is what I always do anyway).
What about 'ancillary' interventions and help, like biotin (topical or capsule) or anything oral that contains a blend of nutrients to strengthen hair follicles, or perhaps something that adds protein to the hair shaft? DHT-type steroids work the best in many situations, so I don't want to stray from them, and also don't want to block ALL INTERNAL DHT circulation, only scalp-specific!
*Q: is the best shampoo/method of avoiding THIS so Minoxidil will work its best!?: "Sebum from sebaceous gland blocks the hair follicle. Minoxidil therefore, cannot penetrate through the sebum as easily to get to the dermal papilla (where hair growth occurs)."
*Q2: What are your thoughts on NANO Shampoo, and does it serve a place in the perfect-shampoo-combo anywhere, or is it useless with the others mentioned above?
The only reason I don't suggest the Dulagen formula is because I've never tried it, someone asked me that in an email. I bet it's probably pretty good... But I know the Perfect Image formula works and isn't messy. A lot of people email me back within a few weeks and report that they are super happy - so it seems to be real good for most people. So I'm going to stick with that one, maybe I'll try the other sometime though.
Yeah the N2Shampoo is good, it grows your hair pretty fast. If you have the $, alternate that with one of the ketoconazole shampoos.
Q1: I'm not sure I understand your "Q1" question... can you rephrase?
Q2: I never used that Nano shampoo, it's pretty new isn't it? Ketoconazole is the only ingredient that is clinically proven to inhibit scalp DHT. A lot of these 'vitamin' hair growth shampoos often get lumped in with the hair loss shampoos, but they don't really help with hair loss. Or only for female hair loss, because female hair loss is often not androgenic alopecia. They are mainly super high quality shampoo that can sometimes reduce hair loss by reducing inflammation but they don't block inhibit scalp DHT. Does that make sense?
ahh yes -- the nano shampoo description says "Nano shampoo contains NANO and SOD (3-carboxylic acids pyridine n-oxide), a very powerful hair growth stimulator, similar or more powerful than minoxidil. It is easy to use and also well suited for female hair loss."
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Thanks, makes sense. An extra $5 isn't a big deal since you know first hand it works so well. Also, I'm VERY excited about in essence TRIPLING my Minoxidil concentration and adding in an extra potent DHT inhibitor.
I have been using N2Shampoo + Nizoral for a few months now, a dime-sized squirt of each, gently massages in with my fingers and then I let the foam sit on top of my head for the rest of the shower to absorb. What would be the best combo in your opinion like this, one of the Keto-shampoos you suggest on your site since it has anti-inflammatory properties, and N2Shampoo?
Sure, basically there was a website I went to that was talking about how many times users of Minoxidil aren't getting optimal results they could be, because - as the website stated it: "Sebum from sebaceous gland blocks the hair follicle. Minoxidil therefore, cannot penetrate through the sebum as easily to get to the dermal papilla (where hair growth occurs)." There are supposedly shampoos out there that focus on clearing the built-up sebum, so the hair-growth products and penetrate deeper and more efficiently.
So, yay or nay to Nano (that contains NANO and SOD (3-carboxylic acids pyridine n-oxide))? Are those two ingredients worth while?
THANKS!
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I have been using N2Shampoo + Nizoral for a few months now, a dime-sized squirt of each, gently massages in with my fingers and then I let the foam sit on top of my head for the rest of the shower to absorb. What would be the best combo in your opinion like this, one of the Keto-shampoos you suggest on your site since it has anti-inflammatory properties, and N2Shampoo?
Sure, basically there was a website I went to that was talking about how many times users of Minoxidil aren't getting optimal results they could be, because - as the website stated it: "Sebum from sebaceous gland blocks the hair follicle. Minoxidil therefore, cannot penetrate through the sebum as easily to get to the dermal papilla (where hair growth occurs)." There are supposedly shampoos out there that focus on clearing the built-up sebum, so the hair-growth products and penetrate deeper and more efficiently.
So, yay or nay to Nano (that contains NANO and SOD (3-carboxylic acids pyridine n-oxide))? Are those two ingredients worth while?
THANKS!
sorry for the late reply - been traveling
1) Use the Nizoral first, keep it on there for 4-5 minutes - follow up with N2shampoo. N2Shampoo seems to help prevent dry scalp. But i'd use them separately, rather than doing a combo. - No real reason for this however.
2) Ah I've heard that too, that's what the perfect image shampoo says. While I believe that, I think that most people using minoxidil don't get good results because they are using a cheap formula with a crappy carrier and also not addressing the DHT (either orally or topically). A shampoo like Nizoral doesn't address the sebum and really increases scalp inflammation for a lot of guys -- the primary reason I recommend the other ketoconazole shampoos.
3) I don't know, so I can't give you definite answer -- I say go for it though!
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Thanks man. I have noticed my scalp itches more often, sometimes I will even wake up in the middle of the night to itch it, but I really try not to because I always assumed it increasing shedding. I'm going to use ALL of your pointers and purchase tips as soon as I run out of my Nizoral and lame weak 5% Minoxidil!
CEDeoudes59
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Hey guys, as a lot of you know, I've tried a lot of stuff through the years and blew a lot of money on crap that didn't work to try to control hair loss. The most effective thing to 'regrow' hair is a hair transplant procedure.
Here are my results after my 1st one: Invalid Link Removed
go to [select author] and then select [ChrisHT_by_DrCharles]
For a decade, I simply tried to control the hair loss while juicing. Some things work than others. Regrowth wasn't really on the map. In a nutshell, the best thing you can do is avoid highly androgenic compounds, take finasteride, a high quality minoxidil formula with azelaic acid and a ketconazole shampoo that also includes ingredients to reduce inflammation (and is designed for daily long term use, unlike Nizoral). I have a simplified and thorough discussion here - Invalid Link Removed. The routine works super good to prevent further loss for most guys (I get lots of feedback via email and I appreciate it!).
For the past 4 or 5 months or so I have been trying something a bit different that has significantly regrown a lot of hair that was seemingly lost earlier in the year when I idiotically combined finasteride and Deca (and also used Melanotan, which seemed to make things worse). I was losing 200-250 hairs in the hair, for about 5.5 months. The results are really good and I'm putting off a previously scheduled hair restoration procedure that was to address the crown and specific frontal zones. Simply put, a lot more hairs are growing in and coming out. The net difference has resulted in a lot of added density, especially in the front on the hair line. You basically keep your head saturated in minoxidil all day. I haven't had ANY side effects, not even dry scalp.
Regrowth is super tough to get, but this combo has made my hair grow super fast and also minimized my hair loss in the shower. It's the best thing I've done and you might want to try it if you want a shot at some regrowth. At worst, it will really slow down your current rate of hair loss. Over the past 5 months it's important to note that I'm on a prescribed 200mg of test, every 7 days. So I don't have high levels of androgens in my system. I did a 4 week run of superdrol and noticed no increase in hair loss and no decrease in regrowth. Superdrol is pretty safe for most guys.
Anyway, here's what I do-
HGH will also benefit your hair growth. I'm not using it now however.
I've been doing this routine for months now and I haven't had dry scalp or any issues.
Most guys think that they aren't getting results from minoxidil. I certainly thought that in the past. The newer formulas are a ton better than the old oily crap that was overpriced. Although I never saw too much regrowth from minoxidil - I did seem to notice that I lost way less hair in the shower. The usual 40-50 hairs became 15-20 hairs. I always reference this study from the "International Society of Hair Restoration Surgeons" that shows the guys that used minoxidil for a year reduced their hair shed in shower from a median of 69.7 hairs to 33.8 hairs (over a 50% reduction). So it works, you gotta use it consistently though.
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I work at home mostly so I don't mind have my head saturated in minoxidil or my hair not styled, the PI formula dries real quick anyway (5 minutes). Again this might not be for everybody, but if you want to MAX out and want the best opportunity for regrowth you may want to give it a shot.
Hey guys, as a lot of you know, I've tried a lot of stuff through the years and blew a lot of money on crap that didn't work to try to control hair loss. The most effective thing to 'regrow' hair is a hair transplant procedure.
Here are my results after my 1st one: Invalid Link Removed
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For a decade, I simply tried to control the hair loss while juicing. Some things work than others. Regrowth wasn't really on the map. In a nutshell, the best thing you can do is avoid highly androgenic compounds, take finasteride, a high quality minoxidil formula with azelaic acid and a ketconazole shampoo that also includes ingredients to reduce inflammation (and is designed for daily long term use, unlike Nizoral). I have a simplified and thorough discussion here - Invalid Link Removed. The routine works super good to prevent further loss for most guys (I get lots of feedback via email and I appreciate it!).
For the past 4 or 5 months or so I have been trying something a bit different that has significantly regrown a lot of hair that was seemingly lost earlier in the year when I idiotically combined finasteride and Deca (and also used Melanotan, which seemed to make things worse). I was losing 200-250 hairs in the hair, for about 5.5 months. The results are really good and I'm putting off a previously scheduled hair restoration procedure that was to address the crown and specific frontal zones. Simply put, a lot more hairs are growing in and coming out. The net difference has resulted in a lot of added density, especially in the front on the hair line. You basically keep your head saturated in minoxidil all day. I haven't had ANY side effects, not even dry scalp.
Regrowth is super tough to get, but this combo has made my hair grow super fast and also minimized my hair loss in the shower. It's the best thing I've done and you might want to try it if you want a shot at some regrowth. At worst, it will really slow down your current rate of hair loss. Over the past 5 months it's important to note that I'm on a prescribed 200mg of test, every 7 days. So I don't have high levels of androgens in my system. I did a 4 week run of superdrol and noticed no increase in hair loss and no decrease in regrowth. Superdrol is pretty safe for most guys.
Anyway, here's what I do-
- 2.5 mg finasteride every 3 days (my doctor prescribes Proscar, insurance covers it. Costs 40$ for 3-4 months. I cut then into 1/2s. There was an Austalian study that showed taking finasteride every 3 days was 90% as effective as taking it every day.)
- 2-4 Applications of PI 15% Minoxidil with Azelaic Acid (if you haven't used minoxidil before definitely start with the 5% strength minoxidil) The idea is basically to keep your head saturated in minoxidil the entire day. It seems to work even better. I know the directions say 1 or 2 applications a day is sufficient, but I never got as much regrowth as I am now, applying it several times a day. For my specific recommendation on which product to use check out Invalid Link Removed - if you want to try this but want to use a cheaper minoxidil, you can get a 5% generic minoxidil (but note: it won't have azelaic acid which inhibits scalp DHT). The generic Kirkland or Member's Mark minoxidil is legitimate and super cheap. The formula I suggest dries super quick and isn't oily unlike most minoxidil formulas I've used. Again, the idea is to have your head saturated in minoxidil all day.
- Use a quality ketoconazole shampoo daily or every other day. Make you pick ketoconazole formula that you can use every day or every other day (Nizoral is too harsh for most guys to use daily). You'll probably want to wash out the minoxidil residue so you'll probably be showering at least every two days.
- Use N2 Shampoo daily or every other day - this is seriously a good hair growth shampoo. It also has a lot of ingredients that will keep potential dry scalp issues (from minoxidil or ketoconazole) away.
HGH will also benefit your hair growth. I'm not using it now however.
I've been doing this routine for months now and I haven't had dry scalp or any issues.
Most guys think that they aren't getting results from minoxidil. I certainly thought that in the past. The newer formulas are a ton better than the old oily crap that was overpriced. Although I never saw too much regrowth from minoxidil - I did seem to notice that I lost way less hair in the shower. The usual 40-50 hairs became 15-20 hairs. I always reference this study from the "International Society of Hair Restoration Surgeons" that shows the guys that used minoxidil for a year reduced their hair shed in shower from a median of 69.7 hairs to 33.8 hairs (over a 50% reduction). So it works, you gotta use it consistently though.
source: ISHRS Study:Invalid Link Removed
I work at home mostly so I don't mind have my head saturated in minoxidil or my hair not styled, the PI formula dries real quick anyway (5 minutes). Again this might not be for everybody, but if you want to MAX out and want the best opportunity for regrowth you may want to give it a shot.
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Great info, thanks for sharing as always!
In your opinion, do any HERBAL/supplement additive serves a functional purpose in negating hair loss and shedding (either orally or applied topically to the scalp)!?
In your opinion, do any HERBAL/supplement additive serves a functional purpose in negating hair loss and shedding (either orally or applied topically to the scalp)!?