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first time clen user... any suggestions

jsp0882

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i've read up on clen mainly because i'm a supplement nerd and read up on random things and i was never going to use clen. i have used albuterol before and ordered some online. well the package came today and instead of the buy 2 get 1 free albuterol they sent me the wrong order and sent me 2 bottles of clen. i've read dosages start at about 40mcg a day and run to the max of 120mcg a day.

now should this dose be split up or taken all at once in the morning because of the half life of the stuff? and also i am basically immune to all stimulants. i took my first dose today at 60mcg and i feel fine. no shakes or anything. would it be possible to go higher than 120mcg? or do the side effects out weigh the effects. and also does benadryl work as good as keitofen?(hope i spelled that right)
 
once doses get above 100mcg i suggest splitting the dose. if 60mcg didnt effect u then up it, but not right to 120mcg

and remember, use it 2 weeks on 2 weeks off etc...

benadryl helps clear/refresh receptors
 
Clen is evil - I'll never use it orally. Now, a transdermal application is another story.

Be careful with it. It's not just another stim bro. The half life is one big difference than any other stimulant.
 
nosnmiveins said:
once doses get above 100mcg i suggest splitting the dose. if 60mcg didnt effect u then up it, but not right to 120mcg

and remember, use it 2 weeks on 2 weeks off etc...

benadryl helps clear/refresh receptors
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From what I have read this is not the best method to run clen. From what I have read and been told by a guy from my gym who is a pro bb'er the best way is as follows: Taper up the doses until you reach the maximum tolerable dose, then run it at that dose for 28 days. From there you could taper back down or stop it dead (user specific choice) and then break for at least a month.

Also I have read to take the dose before bed so you can sleep through the jitters but yo may have difficulty sleeping on it so experiment.

Start low and slow, clen is dangerous stuff if used incorrectly
 
jmh80 said:
Clen is evil - I'll never use it orally. Now, a transdermal application is another story.

Be careful with it. It's not just another stim bro. The half life is one big difference than any other stimulant.
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Could you make a transdermal clen through liquid clen? Also how would this reduce the sides? Is it to do with absorption rates?
 
T-Bone said:
It is a DANGEROUS DRUG. Throw it in the garbage, where it belongs!.
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x2. The high possibility of cardiovascular side effects are very real. Understand that many things can have some 'risk' but as stated above given the half life of clen and considering it was made to trim the fat off of horses while helping keep muscle should say something about its potency. That & it was never approved for human consumption in the US. I've used in lightly in the past, but will never make that mistake again. On a side note, Britney Spears recently was using Clen to lose fat and had a heatstroke from it.
 
Ziquor said:
x2. The high possibility of cardiovascular side effects are very real. Understand that many things can have some 'risk' but as stated above given the half life of clen and considering it was made to trim the fat off of horses while helping keep muscle should say something about its potency. That & it was never approved for human consumption in the US. I've used in lightly in the past, but will never make that mistake again. On a side note, Britney Spears recently was using Clen to lose fat and had a heatstroke from it.
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i'm sure the part about her being fat smoking drinking and doing coke probably had something to do with it too
 
T-Bone said:
Yeah, but Cocaine is probally safer than Clen.
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it can't be that bad. theres a ton of people who take it and love it. just don't go rediculous with the dosing. i mean u take 120mcg one day and then take it the next you're pretty much doubling your dose because of the half life. i don't think i'm even gonna go above 100mcg if i do get to that point
 
jsp0882 said:
it can't be that bad. theres a ton of people who take it and love it. just don't go rediculous with the dosing. i mean u take 120mcg one day and then take it the next you're pretty much doubling your dose because of the half life. i don't think i'm even gonna go above 100mcg if i do get to that point
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Theres a ton of people that use Cocaine and Love it.
 
jsp0882 said:
it can't be that bad. theres a ton of people who take it and love it. just don't go rediculous with the dosing. i mean u take 120mcg one day and then take it the next you're pretty much doubling your dose because of the half life. i don't think i'm even gonna go above 100mcg if i do get to that point
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There's tens of thousands of people who do coke and love it and don't have any issues. Until they die from a heart attack at 35 instead of 75. If you really wanna take it do so at your own risk but don't take the warnings lightly.
 
T-Bone said:
Theres a ton of people that use Cocaine and Love it.
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they also use it for more than 2 weeks. and don't normally follow a recomended dosage. i'm gonna try it and keep the dose low if i feel something thats not right i'll stop it. thanks for the info man appreciate it
 
T-Bone said:
It is a DANGEROUS DRUG. Throw it in the garbage, where it belongs!.
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Despite the short term sides which are very dangerous the thing that worries me the most (and scares me out of using it) is the heart cell necrosis found in studies, even if its just animal studies
 
tnick7 said:
wat do you mean spot reduction?
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the napalm will slightly spot reduce if you're really low in body fat already. the clen isn't going to do anything for that. it's just gonna absorb through your skin and get into ur system. there's less sides because u probably don't get as much in you're system that way.
 
jsp0882 said:
they also use it for more than 2 weeks. and don't normally follow a recomended dosage. i'm gonna try it and keep the dose low if i feel something thats not right i'll stop it. thanks for the info man appreciate it
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What exactly is the recommended dosages and cycle length for cocaine??:rofl: One line every 2 hours, for 4 weeks? 8 weeks off before starting another cycle??
 
stl123 said:
What exactly is the recommended dosages and cycle length for cocaine??:rofl: One line every 2 hours, for 4 weeks? 8 weeks off before starting another cycle??
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Cocaine was used for medical purposes on humans. It was also in Coca Cola. Not to say it is safe, but based on its history(look it up) I would say it is much safer than Clen.
 
T-Bone said:
Cocaine was used for medical purposes on humans. It was also in Coca Cola. Not to say it is safe, but based on its history(look it up) I would say it is much safer than Clen.
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I'm with you bro. The person I was responding to was arguing that coke heads don't follow recommended dosages and clen users do. WTF:rofl: Yeah, I would never touch clen in my life!!
 
T-Bone said:
Cocaine was used for medical purposes on humans. It was also in Coca Cola. Not to say it is safe, but based on its history(look it up) I would say it is much safer than Clen.
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Probably more enjoyable too!!!!!!:cheers:
 
stl123 said:
What exactly is the recommended dosages and cycle length for cocaine??:rofl: One line every 2 hours, for 4 weeks? 8 weeks off before starting another cycle??
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ok i guess i shouldn't have said usually don't follow a recomended dosage. kinda worded that wrong but u know what i mean. nobody has used cocaine for beneficial purposes and studied what certain dosage will do.
 
T-Bone said:
Cocaine was used for medical purposes on humans. It was also in Coca Cola. Not to say it is safe, but based on its history(look it up) I would say it is much safer than Clen.
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heroin was used for medical purposes too, does that mean it's safer than clen?
 
tnick7 said:
From what I have read this is not the best method to run clen. From what I have read and been told by a guy from my gym who is a pro bb'er the best way is as follows: Taper up the doses until you reach the maximum tolerable dose, then run it at that dose for 28 days. From there you could taper back down or stop it dead (user specific choice) and then break for at least a month.

Also I have read to take the dose before bed so you can sleep through the jitters but yo may have difficulty sleeping on it so experiment.

Start low and slow, clen is dangerous stuff if used incorrectly
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ok. so ur saying ramp up to max dose which would take u about a week to get to then stay on that for 28 days? so u want someone on clen for over a month at a maximum dose? i say ur crazy. clen loses it's fat burning effects after like 2 weeks. the half life is so long that ur body gets used to it very quickly.
 
jsp0882 said:
ok. so ur saying ramp up to max dose which would take u about a week to get to then stay on that for 28 days? so u want someone on clen for over a month at a maximum dose? i say ur crazy. clen loses it's fat burning effects after like 2 weeks. the half life is so long that ur body gets used to it very quickly.
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please prove me wrong, Im not here to argue with you, but you are following the broscience method of using clen. 2weeks on 2 weeks off is a misconception. You said it your self the half life is so long so the two weeks you are off clen it will still be in your system. The reason to take two weeks off is to clean your receptors but 2 weeks off isn't enough time for that to happen. Clen is effective at max dose for 28 days. I say your crazy for using clen in the first place when there are safer options (unless your a competitive pro bb'er in which i retract my statement, but if you were you wouldnt be asking us for help). Tapering up is a period of assessment of tolerance, so yes you would be on clen for around 6 weeks. As i said prove me wrong this is what carefully looking at clen has lead me to believe is the most effective way to cycle :D
 
tnick7 said:
please prove me wrong, Im not here to argue with you, but you are following the broscience method of using clen. 2weeks on 2 weeks off is a misconception. You said it your self the half life is so long so the two weeks you are off clen it will still be in your system. The reason to take two weeks off is to clean your receptors but 2 weeks off isn't enough time for that to happen. Clen is effective at max dose for 28 days. I say your crazy for using clen in the first place when there are safer options (unless your a competitive pro bb'er in which i retract my statement, but if you were you wouldnt be asking us for help). Tapering up is a period of assessment of tolerance, so yes you would be on clen for around 6 weeks. As i said prove me wrong this is what carefully looking at clen has lead me to believe is the most effective way to cycle :D
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the half life isn't 2 weeks. it's a few days. every article i've ever read about clen and any user feedback is 2 on 2 off because the fat loss effects go away. find me an article that says to stay on clen for 6 weeks straight, and the 2 weeks off isn't for that because most suggest using ECA stack during those 2 weeks to keep fat loss going.
 
jsp0882 said:
clen isn't addictive. u won't be using it for the rest of ur life. without going to rehab
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There was a list released last year on the news of celebrities who were addicted to Clenbuterol. There were at least a dozen, mostly women looking to lose fat, this was just celebrities. Also since Clen isn't approved for human consumption if your shipment is 'checked' or stopped for any reason, it can result in felony charges.
 
Ziquor said:
There was a list released last year on the news of celebrities who were addicted to Clenbuterol. There were at least a dozen, mostly women looking to lost fat, just celebrities. Also since Clen isn't approved for human consumption if your shipment is 'checked' or stopped for any reason, it can result in felony charges.
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research chems are legal
 
jsp0882 said:
ok i guess i shouldn't have said usually don't follow a recomended dosage. kinda worded that wrong but u know what i mean. nobody has used cocaine for beneficial purposes and studied what certain dosage will do.
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I know. I was just bustin your balls.

By the way saying cocaine was never used for beneficial purposes is retarded. How is getting tweeked not beneficial!!! :rofl: I know some people who owe their college education to cocaine. :cheers:
 
jsp0882 said:
clen isn't addictive. u won't be using it for the rest of ur life. without going to rehab
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Not physically, but you can get mentally addicted to anything. Weed is not addictive, but I know dozens of people who are mentally addicted. They dont need it to be well, but mentally they can't live without it. Moot point bro!!!:cheers:
 
jsp0882 said:
i've read up on clen mainly because i'm a supplement nerd and read up on random things and i was never going to use clen. i have used albuterol before and ordered some online. well the package came today and instead of the buy 2 get 1 free albuterol they sent me the wrong order and sent me 2 bottles of clen. i've read dosages start at about 40mcg a day and run to the max of 120mcg a day.

now should this dose be split up or taken all at once in the morning because of the half life of the stuff? and also i am basically immune to all stimulants. i took my first dose today at 60mcg and i feel fine. no shakes or anything. would it be possible to go higher than 120mcg? or do the side effects out weigh the effects. and also does benadryl work as good as keitofen?(hope i spelled that right)
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Im having a hard time with this post. In your OP you say that you read up on clen and came to the conclusion that you would never use it. Then a company f's up and sends you some by mistake and all of a sudden you are looking for justification to use it. Why not just send it back and get what you ordered. You yourself must have read some bad sh1t about clen or you wouldn't have come to your original conclusion. Why the sudden change of heart? It doen't make sense.
 
stl123 said:
Im having a hard time with this post. In your OP you say that you read up on clen and came to the conclusion that you would never use it. Then a company f's up and sends you some by mistake and all of a sudden you are looking for justification to use it. Why not just send it back and get what you ordered. You yourself must have read some bad sh1t about clen or you wouldn't have come to your original conclusion. Why the sudden change of heart? It doen't make sense.
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My thoughts exactly. You're asking for info but it seems like you had your mind made up all along, so why ask?
 
From what i've read the half-life of clenbuterol is 35 hours, although this is quite long,blood levels would be very low after 2 weeks, so I don't think it is advisable to run a 6 week cycle, for the reason that there will still be a large amount of active compound in the blood stream. Not to mention the fact that i've used clen for varying length of time, and noticed that after 2-2.5 weeks the effect decreases significantly.
 
stl123 said:
Im having a hard time with this post. In your OP you say that you read up on clen and came to the conclusion that you would never use it. Then a company f's up and sends you some by mistake and all of a sudden you are looking for justification to use it. Why not just send it back and get what you ordered. You yourself must have read some bad sh1t about clen or you wouldn't have come to your original conclusion. Why the sudden change of heart? It doen't make sense.
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i wasn't going to order it because i had good results with albuterol and it was on sale. but if i have it might as well try it. and it
 
dkkon1 said:
From what i've read the half-life of clenbuterol is 35 hours, although this is quite long,blood levels would be very low after 2 weeks, so I don't think it is advisable to run a 6 week cycle, for the reason that there will still be a large amount of active compound in the blood stream. Not to mention the fact that i've used clen for varying length of time, and noticed that after 2-2.5 weeks the effect decreases significantly.
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thank you. that's what anything ever written about clen has been saying.
 
Ziquor said:
My thoughts exactly. You're asking for info but it seems like you had your mind made up all along, so why ask?
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i was looking for suggestions about dosing and length. not from people who heard info from a "bodybuilder" but from people who have actually used it and to get their feedback from it. i didn't wanna hear about throwing it in the garbage and hearing the best way to take it is max tolerable dose for 6 weeks.
 
jsp0882 said:
the half life isn't 2 weeks. it's a few days. every article i've ever read about clen and any user feedback is 2 on 2 off because the fat loss effects go away. find me an article that says to stay on clen for 6 weeks straight, and the 2 weeks off isn't for that because most suggest using ECA stack during those 2 weeks to keep fat loss going.
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An ECA stack is not the greatest idea during a two week break because it will target the same receptors you are trying to rest over that period. Your best bet is it use something else to clear them e.g. diphenhydramine or ketotifen.
 
jsp0882 said:
the half life isn't 2 weeks. it's a few days. every article i've ever read about clen and any user feedback is 2 on 2 off because the fat loss effects go away. find me an article that says to stay on clen for 6 weeks straight, and the 2 weeks off isn't for that because most suggest using ECA stack during those 2 weeks to keep fat loss going.
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Alot of this information comes from animal study for anabolism. Animals gain strength as the study went on, but at about the 2 week mark it basically plateaued. Alot of people took this information and applied it to the fat lloss application in humans. Not tested and true, theorized and judgable.

Then many people clen is not working cause they dont shake their keyboard right of thier desk at the two week mark. Because the sides are starting to retard, doesnt mean clen doesnt work.

Oh, and it has a 36 Hour half life.

Adams
 
jsp0882 said:
i was looking for suggestions about dosing and length. not from people who heard info from a "bodybuilder" but from people who have actually used it and to get their feedback from it. i didn't wanna hear about throwing it in the garbage and hearing the best way to take it is max tolerable dose for 6 weeks.
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I've used it twice in the past, both pretty bad experiences. But there's much I've done in the past when I was less informed that I regret. Good luck!
 
Exactly. Animals have an additional receptor that the compound targets, causing anabolism. People assumed that this would also happen in humans, but it does not. Clenbuterol is considered to be unsafe for human consumption because studies on its use are limited. This is why Albuterol is recommended instead. There are countless studies in humans and it is marketed worldwide as a drug for asthma treatment.
 
Cub said:
Exactly. Animals have an additional receptor that the compound targets, causing anabolism. People assumed that this would also happen in humans, but it does not. Clenbuterol is considered to be unsafe for human consumption because studies on its use are limited. This is why Albuterol is recommended instead. There are countless studies in humans and it is marketed worldwide as a drug for asthma treatment.
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And if I am not mistaken, long term use can result in necrosis of heart tissue. Leave this buterol to the horses its made for.

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