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wow, you're quick.
okay.
snagency
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WTH? No PB's today - JG, my stack must be broke...
:aargh::aargh:
Just kidding man. Strength is fine. :good:
These icons are cool... No PB's today because of the function of today's w/o. As we discussed re. diet, the idea of adding in the additional carbs to make better use of the products & keep weight stable led to changes in training. This is the 2nd half of the week in my training schedule where I typically superset a lot, this case being chest & shoulders. I utilize supersets to bring in fat-loss (don't do much cardio, down to 1x/week now), but since this hasn't been an issue and fat's melting off me, and we're concerned about losing too much weight, dietary changes led to training changes. Focused on heavier weights w/ single sets, yet keeping rest periods short, 60 seconds or less. Also, I dusted off a few exercises that I haven't used in awhile, like d-bell declines, shrugs (front & behind back), and plate raises. Was strong on everything, felt great.
Regarding diet, like I said, I carbed w/ every meal yesterday, even throwing in a scoop of MassMaker w/ my nighttime shake, so I hit @2500 cal total, right at 240g carbs. This is tricky; you know I was freaking out over the way I looked yesterday right? A little thin at 182? Well, this morning when I awoke & looked in the mirror I was full & much beefier looking. This is like going to school every day, the learning curve. I feel like a broken record here, but damn man, I've never experienced products that can have such a dramatic impact on body comp in such a ridiculously short timeframe (OVERNIGHT???). So... an epiphany. I've decided I'm not going to worry about weight; going to let the products take me where they will, going by feel & by the mirror on when I need to make changes. There is just no predicting how these products will impact me; all I can control is my intake & my training so I'll focus on that. My goal is to look the best that I can; right now at this point in prep, that requires more carbs...
(EDIT: Didn't realize that when I type in "P" "R" for personal record it comes up "Page Ranking" when it posts. Replaced w/ "PB" for personal best.)
:aargh::aargh:
Just kidding man. Strength is fine. :good:
These icons are cool... No PB's today because of the function of today's w/o. As we discussed re. diet, the idea of adding in the additional carbs to make better use of the products & keep weight stable led to changes in training. This is the 2nd half of the week in my training schedule where I typically superset a lot, this case being chest & shoulders. I utilize supersets to bring in fat-loss (don't do much cardio, down to 1x/week now), but since this hasn't been an issue and fat's melting off me, and we're concerned about losing too much weight, dietary changes led to training changes. Focused on heavier weights w/ single sets, yet keeping rest periods short, 60 seconds or less. Also, I dusted off a few exercises that I haven't used in awhile, like d-bell declines, shrugs (front & behind back), and plate raises. Was strong on everything, felt great.
Regarding diet, like I said, I carbed w/ every meal yesterday, even throwing in a scoop of MassMaker w/ my nighttime shake, so I hit @2500 cal total, right at 240g carbs. This is tricky; you know I was freaking out over the way I looked yesterday right? A little thin at 182? Well, this morning when I awoke & looked in the mirror I was full & much beefier looking. This is like going to school every day, the learning curve. I feel like a broken record here, but damn man, I've never experienced products that can have such a dramatic impact on body comp in such a ridiculously short timeframe (OVERNIGHT???). So... an epiphany. I've decided I'm not going to worry about weight; going to let the products take me where they will, going by feel & by the mirror on when I need to make changes. There is just no predicting how these products will impact me; all I can control is my intake & my training so I'll focus on that. My goal is to look the best that I can; right now at this point in prep, that requires more carbs...
(EDIT: Didn't realize that when I type in "P" "R" for personal record it comes up "Page Ranking" when it posts. Replaced w/ "PB" for personal best.)
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snagency
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Speaking of carbs & diet, another question on P-Slin usage.
My pre & post w/o meals are pretty similar:
2 scoops MassMaker, 1/2 cup oatmeal shakes for both
only difference is pre I have 1 piece Ezekiel toast (no butter) and post I have 1 full grapefruit.
Can I use P-Slin for both these meals instead of just for meal #1? Then I would use AP w/ next 3 meals (3-5). Am I ready for that yet?
My pre & post w/o meals are pretty similar:
2 scoops MassMaker, 1/2 cup oatmeal shakes for both
only difference is pre I have 1 piece Ezekiel toast (no butter) and post I have 1 full grapefruit.
Can I use P-Slin for both these meals instead of just for meal #1? Then I would use AP w/ next 3 meals (3-5). Am I ready for that yet?
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snagency
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I continue to be amazed w/ the Cissus. By all rights, after my leg w/o Sunday I shouldn't have been able to walk the next two days, let alone be flying up & down my stairs (my office is up in the loft in my house) all day long like it's nothing. 30 minutes cardio yesterday was a breeze, and the elbow & shoulder issues I mentioned earlier in this thread remain non-existant. Tomorrow is leg day again; BRING IT!!!
Still feeling the new T product... on top of the world, yes. Things do tend to get on my nerves (read: annoy), but they don't BOTHER me, it's like, okay, I'm gonna deal with this & it WILL be resolved -- just like I look at the weights as an obstacle that will be overcome. It's like nothing can keep me down man, great feeling. T is such a great thing! I will say that so far w/ the third dose however, I don't notice any increase in these feelings per se, but it has been a short time.
I should mention as well that I think I am seeing some action from the PowerFULL. I read all these posts about people getting better sleep, in fact some saying that there is a lingering sleepy effect to the product. Let me say that I have had weird sleep patterns since 2004 when I began to keto hardcore. I have not slept longer than 6 hours (except a HANDFULL of occasions when there was an extraneous issue, like getting plastered from drinking on party nights - few & far between for me) since that time, and the typical night's sleep I get is about 5 hours, I'd say about 95% of the time. (EDIT: I need to add here that ZMA, melatonin, herbal relaxation teas, etc. have all had no effect in helping this.) I sleep HARD, don't wake up at all, but when I do, I'm up and there's no getting back to sleep. Well, Monday night I fell asleep in the middle of watching one of my shows (THAT just doesn't happen), and I slept about 6 1/2 hours. Then last night I actually got close to 7 full hours in. Hey, this is great; I've long felt that a lack of sleep was hindering my muscular development to some extent. I think the whole 8 hours/night thing is over-rated; some people are just hard-wired to be able to function fully & fine on less than others, but I do believe less than 6 on a regular basis is not a good thing. Especially as active as I am.
These are the first back-to-back nights with 6+ hours sleep I've had in......... well, I really can't remember. Hope to see this continue.
Still feeling the new T product... on top of the world, yes. Things do tend to get on my nerves (read: annoy), but they don't BOTHER me, it's like, okay, I'm gonna deal with this & it WILL be resolved -- just like I look at the weights as an obstacle that will be overcome. It's like nothing can keep me down man, great feeling. T is such a great thing! I will say that so far w/ the third dose however, I don't notice any increase in these feelings per se, but it has been a short time.
I should mention as well that I think I am seeing some action from the PowerFULL. I read all these posts about people getting better sleep, in fact some saying that there is a lingering sleepy effect to the product. Let me say that I have had weird sleep patterns since 2004 when I began to keto hardcore. I have not slept longer than 6 hours (except a HANDFULL of occasions when there was an extraneous issue, like getting plastered from drinking on party nights - few & far between for me) since that time, and the typical night's sleep I get is about 5 hours, I'd say about 95% of the time. (EDIT: I need to add here that ZMA, melatonin, herbal relaxation teas, etc. have all had no effect in helping this.) I sleep HARD, don't wake up at all, but when I do, I'm up and there's no getting back to sleep. Well, Monday night I fell asleep in the middle of watching one of my shows (THAT just doesn't happen), and I slept about 6 1/2 hours. Then last night I actually got close to 7 full hours in. Hey, this is great; I've long felt that a lack of sleep was hindering my muscular development to some extent. I think the whole 8 hours/night thing is over-rated; some people are just hard-wired to be able to function fully & fine on less than others, but I do believe less than 6 on a regular basis is not a good thing. Especially as active as I am.
These are the first back-to-back nights with 6+ hours sleep I've had in......... well, I really can't remember. Hope to see this continue.
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snagency
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okay jacob, here's some test surge for ya, my accountant just called & informed me I owe $6000 in taxes.
talk about wanting to rip somebody's head off.....
:aargh::aargh::aargh::aargh::aargh::aargh::aargh::aargh:
:frustrate:frustrate:frustrate:frustrate:frustrate:frustrate:frustrate:frustrate
talk about wanting to rip somebody's head off.....
:aargh::aargh::aargh::aargh::aargh::aargh::aargh::aargh:
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avgBdybldr
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omg dude, how'd that happen?
bye the way man, do you mind me asking how you came about becoming a sponsered athlete?
snagency
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ahhh, i'm calmed now. those little dudes are crazy to look at, aren't they? bet that's how i was looking myself a little bit ago.
i think my tax guy made an error, waiting to find out. i run my own business, so i pay quarterly & after the fiscal yr., but this is a pretty huge discrepancy. this guy's made mistakes the last 2 yrs., so if he's made another one it's strike 3 man, he's gone (yeah richard, hope you're reading this)...
as far as sponsorship, i guess someone just likes what i bring to the table...
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I told you ring their necks!
snagency
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:twisted:
yeah...
i'd better keep it in the weight room man. could be REAL ugly, lol...
snagency
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you know coupled with my already aggressive nature, you're playing with fire there, right???
hey there's a question for you on page 2...
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snagency
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ha. ha. haaa.
you're hurting my feelings...
can i go to pslin w/ 1st & 2nd meals, then run ap meals 3-5?
OR pslin 1st 2 meals, ap next 2?
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I would not OD on anything just yet. The products are potent and we will take it to another level, but you are jumping way ahead.
More is not better in this case.
snagency
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cool. i'll remain as is till i get the word then.
just trying to utilize these carbs best as possible.
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Trust me , you are. There is a carry over effect.
snagency
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understood.
i trust you man. you lay out the plan, i'll just follow along.
i'll quit trying to reinvent the wheel on ya, haha.
snagency
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All right, before I get accused of losing my objectivity & turning this into a USP product review (and noveling on about it, lol) better get back to the thread's subject.
I'm very impressed with the PurpleWraath product. I tried this during a little cut cycle last summer & got great results. Prior contest prep always included the Beverly BCAA's & Glutamine Select w/ BCAA's. Fantastic products to be sure, and I'll even say Glutamine Select is THE BEST in this line of products. Period. I'll also say that, the way I believe you need to use BCAA's, Glutamine Select becomes the MOST EXPENSIVE in this line of products - PERIOD. I'm not one to skimp on supps, especially precontest, but...
I subscribe to the theory that you need to have BCAA intake level at 30g or higher surrounding w/o for maximum anabolic/recovery effect (at my weight). Use the GlutSelect product at that level and you'll be spending a small car payment monthly. I get great results from the PurpleWraath, and combine it w/ AST's BCAA's to get my total intake where it needs to be. The AST product is very economical, and it's good quality. Great combination.
If $ were no object, then yeah I'd stick w/ the GlutSelect. I will still use Beverly's Muscularity BCAA's when I get to about 4 weeks out, and I think the Density product they just dusted off & brought back out recently is awesome; I'll use that up until the 4-week out mark. ControlledLabs has impressed me with their products too; I also like the White Blood for a pure N.O. use, without all the added "this & that" everybody wants to use in their formulas -- which really is just another way to get more $.
Ah, gotta love the supplement industry...
I'm very impressed with the PurpleWraath product. I tried this during a little cut cycle last summer & got great results. Prior contest prep always included the Beverly BCAA's & Glutamine Select w/ BCAA's. Fantastic products to be sure, and I'll even say Glutamine Select is THE BEST in this line of products. Period. I'll also say that, the way I believe you need to use BCAA's, Glutamine Select becomes the MOST EXPENSIVE in this line of products - PERIOD. I'm not one to skimp on supps, especially precontest, but...
I subscribe to the theory that you need to have BCAA intake level at 30g or higher surrounding w/o for maximum anabolic/recovery effect (at my weight). Use the GlutSelect product at that level and you'll be spending a small car payment monthly. I get great results from the PurpleWraath, and combine it w/ AST's BCAA's to get my total intake where it needs to be. The AST product is very economical, and it's good quality. Great combination.
If $ were no object, then yeah I'd stick w/ the GlutSelect. I will still use Beverly's Muscularity BCAA's when I get to about 4 weeks out, and I think the Density product they just dusted off & brought back out recently is awesome; I'll use that up until the 4-week out mark. ControlledLabs has impressed me with their products too; I also like the White Blood for a pure N.O. use, without all the added "this & that" everybody wants to use in their formulas -- which really is just another way to get more $.
Ah, gotta love the supplement industry...
snagency
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ha, yeah that is an example of upselling there isn't it?
never tried the white flood myself, but i really don't care for the nitric/energy combos. give me my nitric straight up; white blood does just fine. besides, i got recreate for my energy (even if that's not what it's s'posed to do...)
i should add (if it's not understood) that i add my glutamine in to the wraath/bcaa combo, so we're comparing apples to apples w/ glutamine select. been using VPX, just switched to GL3 (AST).
snagency
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i throw creatine mono (AST again) into that same mix, so that eliminates the need for, say, creatine select by beverly, again saving some bucks. mono's cheap, works just fine for me, no bloating. so w/ my before & after mixes, i get 20g glut, 20g creatine, & 30+ grams bcaa, and it doesn't break my wallet.
snagency
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Under the six-week out mark now from the show. The only changes I've made in supplementation is adding 1g of l-carnitine to my afternoon serving of Recreate/PowerFULL/White Blood mix (thanx Jacob!). Diet remains pretty constant; carbs are varied betwen 200&300 daily, except on my true off day every 8 days where I'll drop down in the neighborhood of 150g or so. When I lower the carbs, I'll sneak in some low levels of additional fats (a pinch of butter here on my rice, a 1/2 TBS olive oil there on my broccoli). I remain amazed that I continue to lean out with all these carbs - plug plug USP!
Feeling of being on top of the world remains -- even tho it appears by some accounts on another thread that I'm at risk of keeling over from a heart attack & minimizing my strength gains due to my "excessive" use of vitamins C & E. Can't keep me down baby!! And since I haven't been sick in 2+ years and I feel like freaking Superman every day, me thinks I'll continue to do the same things that have gotten me to this point...
Feeling of being on top of the world remains -- even tho it appears by some accounts on another thread that I'm at risk of keeling over from a heart attack & minimizing my strength gains due to my "excessive" use of vitamins C & E. Can't keep me down baby!! And since I haven't been sick in 2+ years and I feel like freaking Superman every day, me thinks I'll continue to do the same things that have gotten me to this point...
avgBdybldr
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looking and sounding good man.
looks like im going to be increasing the dosage on my Super Cissus, cause my left shoulder has been killing me. it hurts for about 3 days after my chest workout (past 2 weeks). i've been using the cissus for 10 days now and i guess the current dosage isn't working.
sorry i'm spamming your thread man, but i might get some advice from a USP Rep.
looks like im going to be increasing the dosage on my Super Cissus, cause my left shoulder has been killing me. it hurts for about 3 days after my chest workout (past 2 weeks). i've been using the cissus for 10 days now and i guess the current dosage isn't working.
sorry i'm spamming your thread man, but i might get some advice from a USP Rep.
snagency
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SPAMMER!!!
:ntome:
kidding man, you're in the right place.
i myself don't feel comfortable giving out recommendations on dosing that particular product just yet, too new to it.
love the results personally @ my dosage.
jacob, can we get some advice here?
snagency
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How are you dosing?
snagency
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knew you'd drop in sooner or later...
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You twist any knecks yet, or you feeling on top of the world?
avgBdybldr
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i've been following the bottle directions for 1 in the AM and 1 in the PM. i went ahead and took 2 pills this evening, planned on taking 2 in the AM.
snagency
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that seems like a good dosage; try & see what results you get. after two if no improvement, then try 3 & 3.
alternatively try the therapy dosing guidelines listed on the product: 1 cap 10 min. prior to each meal, 5x daily.
the results i'm personally getting at 3/3 are phenomenal man.
snagency
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some random thoughts here before my next actual log update.
38 days out now. I've been thinking about the final week prep, the various options for dialing it all in. This is whole new territory I'm in, due to the fact of my new supplement usage/dieting regimen and also because whatever method I use, it will not be what I've used in the past.
Previously I used a 3-day gradual de-watering plan, w/ liitle h2o intake Ffriday & Saturday; sodium cut/potassium load; carbing up Thur & Fri (sweet potato & beef every meal) and then hitting the sugar load Saturday from rise to show time.
Effective for me, but the whole sodium/potassium thing really made me feel like sh!t, I mean BAD. Not gonna do it again.
As well, I'm reading that a 3-day de-watering plan is really not the best approach, and this makes sense to me.
Finally, I've never used diuretics before, but I'm thinking of running Arbuterol (Universal product, looks decent) Thur & Fri as well in conjunction w/ a revamped de-water scheme. Now, I don't know if I'll need this or not (diuretic), but intellectually it makes sense to me.
I don't want to mess this up; makes me very uncomfortable when I'm in uncharted territory, and I know some guys have really screwed their metabolism by messing w/ some of these internal functions so close to the show.
Anybody have feedback on this?
38 days out now. I've been thinking about the final week prep, the various options for dialing it all in. This is whole new territory I'm in, due to the fact of my new supplement usage/dieting regimen and also because whatever method I use, it will not be what I've used in the past.
Previously I used a 3-day gradual de-watering plan, w/ liitle h2o intake Ffriday & Saturday; sodium cut/potassium load; carbing up Thur & Fri (sweet potato & beef every meal) and then hitting the sugar load Saturday from rise to show time.
Effective for me, but the whole sodium/potassium thing really made me feel like sh!t, I mean BAD. Not gonna do it again.
As well, I'm reading that a 3-day de-watering plan is really not the best approach, and this makes sense to me.
Finally, I've never used diuretics before, but I'm thinking of running Arbuterol (Universal product, looks decent) Thur & Fri as well in conjunction w/ a revamped de-water scheme. Now, I don't know if I'll need this or not (diuretic), but intellectually it makes sense to me.
I don't want to mess this up; makes me very uncomfortable when I'm in uncharted territory, and I know some guys have really screwed their metabolism by messing w/ some of these internal functions so close to the show.
Anybody have feedback on this?
snagency
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Quick update: training still going awesome; I've added a few twists to the regimen based on feedback from my current shape, i.e. need some cardio! (ugh)...
Ramping up the workouts at this point, less rest, more supersets/tri sets, and the added cardio all in an effort to hit full-blown fat-burning mode.
10 days ago I was a bit concerned with the rapid weight loss I was experiencing, so I shifted into a mini-bulk phase for a few days, culminating in a 350g carb day this past Tuesday inc. 2 meals of the wife's homemade chili w/ 3 cans dark kidney beans, 1 lb. 96% lean beef, large onion, big tomali peppers & banana peppers -- good stuff, except it's cooked in a big crock pot and there's no way to measure the portions, plus the can of tomato juice is a bit high in sugar & salt. At a guess, each meal was @500-550 cals, 60-65g carbs & 50-55g protein per. Tasty little "cheat".
Nuff of that tho. I stabilized the weight loss (went from 182 to 184), but now it's time for total shred mode for awhile. The more I learn about how my body reacts to the AP/Slin combo, the more comfortable I'm becoming.
A few tweaks to the supplementation format as well. Rather than talk about them individually, I've put everything together in list format w/ the diet to show my daily intake:
Upon waking (@5 a.m., 30-45 minutes before eating):
1 gram L-Carnitine
5 grams BCAA’s (AST)
5 tabs Density (Beverley International)
3 caps SuperCissusRx (USPlabs)
15 minutes prior to Meal #1: 1 cap P-Slin (USPlabs).
Meal #1: 6 am
1/2 cup oatmeal, 2 scoops Beverly Int. Mass Maker, 1 grapefruit
(80 grams carbohydrates, 20 grams protein, @420 calories)
1 Super Pak (Beverly Int.) or
1 Animal Pak (Universal)
500 mcg Chromium Picolinate
NOTES: I alternate the Super Pak with the Animal Pak as my daily multi-vitamin, because I like them both.
45 minutes prior to training: 3 caps White Blood (Controlled Labs). Preworkout nitric oxide booster
20 minutes prior to training: 1 scoop Purple Wraath (Controlled Labs)
10 grams micronized Creatine (AST)
10 grams Glutamine (VPX)
2 caps PowerFULL (USP)
2 caps Recreate (USP)
4 caps I-GH-1 (LG Sciences)
1 gram Acetyl L-Carnitine
Immediately prior to & during training: 1 scoop Purple Wraath
2 scoops Universal BCAA stack (w/ glutamine)
7 grams BCAA caps (AST)
Immediately after training:
7 grams BCAA caps (AST)
5 tabs Density (Bev. Int.)
immediately following training: 1 cap Anabolic Pump
15 minutes following training: postworkout shake (Meal #2) 9 am
1/2 cup oatmeal, 1 scoop Mass Maker, 1 scoop Isopure isolate, 1 grapefruit
(65 grams carbs, 35 grams protein, @ 430 cal)
400 mg COQ10
1 gram vitamin C
500 mg vitamin E
5000 mcg Biotin
10 grams micronized Creatine (AST)
10 grams Glutamine (VPX)
15 minutes prior to Meal #3: 1 cap Anabolic Pump
Meal #3: 12 pm
6 oz. chicken/fish/tuna, 1/2 cup brown rice, 1 cup broccoli
3 grams fish oil
(35 grams carbs, 40 grams protein, @ 380 cal)
Mid-afternoon: 3 caps White Blood
1 cap Recreate
2 caps PowerFULL
1 gram L-Carnitine
15 minutes prior to Meal #4: 1 cap Anabolic Pump
Meal #4: 3 pm
6 oz. 96% lean beef, 6 oz. sweet potato
(30 grams carbs, 40 grams protein, @ 340 cal)
2nd Animal Pak (if taking those multi’s for that day; if I take the Beverly multi earlier instead, I’ll supplement with 1 gram vitamin C & 500 mg vitamin E with this meal).
Meal #5: 6 pm
6 oz. tuna, 5 oz. salad w/ 2 TBS olive oil vinaigrette dressing, 1 cup broccoli
(no impact carbs, 40 grams protein, 10 grams fat, @ 300 cal)
Meal #6: 9 pm
1 scoop Bev. Ultra Size, 1 scoop Cytosport Comp. Whey, 1/2 cup fat-free cottage cheese
(12 grams carbs, 47 grams protein, @ 290 cal)
3 grams fish oil.
Bedtime: 3 caps ZMA (Beverly Int.)
1 gram L-Carnitine
1 gram Acetyl L-Carnitine
5 grams BCAA’s (AST)
2 caps PowerFULL
3 caps SuperCissusRx
I’ll also take 6 Ultra 40 tabs (Beverly Int.) with every meal during this time.
DAILY TOTALS: 245 grams carbs, 225 grams protein, 35 grams fat (inc. fish oil) @ 2200 calories
The only variance on this will be at meal #3, where I'll pull out the carbs & AP and slip in a meal of tuna, salsa & broccoli. Other than that, let's rock & roll...
Once I learn how to put a pic in these posts, I'll post a progress shot.
Ramping up the workouts at this point, less rest, more supersets/tri sets, and the added cardio all in an effort to hit full-blown fat-burning mode.
10 days ago I was a bit concerned with the rapid weight loss I was experiencing, so I shifted into a mini-bulk phase for a few days, culminating in a 350g carb day this past Tuesday inc. 2 meals of the wife's homemade chili w/ 3 cans dark kidney beans, 1 lb. 96% lean beef, large onion, big tomali peppers & banana peppers -- good stuff, except it's cooked in a big crock pot and there's no way to measure the portions, plus the can of tomato juice is a bit high in sugar & salt. At a guess, each meal was @500-550 cals, 60-65g carbs & 50-55g protein per. Tasty little "cheat".
Nuff of that tho. I stabilized the weight loss (went from 182 to 184), but now it's time for total shred mode for awhile. The more I learn about how my body reacts to the AP/Slin combo, the more comfortable I'm becoming.
A few tweaks to the supplementation format as well. Rather than talk about them individually, I've put everything together in list format w/ the diet to show my daily intake:
Upon waking (@5 a.m., 30-45 minutes before eating):
1 gram L-Carnitine
5 grams BCAA’s (AST)
5 tabs Density (Beverley International)
3 caps SuperCissusRx (USPlabs)
15 minutes prior to Meal #1: 1 cap P-Slin (USPlabs).
Meal #1: 6 am
1/2 cup oatmeal, 2 scoops Beverly Int. Mass Maker, 1 grapefruit
(80 grams carbohydrates, 20 grams protein, @420 calories)
1 Super Pak (Beverly Int.) or
1 Animal Pak (Universal)
500 mcg Chromium Picolinate
NOTES: I alternate the Super Pak with the Animal Pak as my daily multi-vitamin, because I like them both.
45 minutes prior to training: 3 caps White Blood (Controlled Labs). Preworkout nitric oxide booster
20 minutes prior to training: 1 scoop Purple Wraath (Controlled Labs)
10 grams micronized Creatine (AST)
10 grams Glutamine (VPX)
2 caps PowerFULL (USP)
2 caps Recreate (USP)
4 caps I-GH-1 (LG Sciences)
1 gram Acetyl L-Carnitine
Immediately prior to & during training: 1 scoop Purple Wraath
2 scoops Universal BCAA stack (w/ glutamine)
7 grams BCAA caps (AST)
Immediately after training:
7 grams BCAA caps (AST)
5 tabs Density (Bev. Int.)
immediately following training: 1 cap Anabolic Pump
15 minutes following training: postworkout shake (Meal #2) 9 am
1/2 cup oatmeal, 1 scoop Mass Maker, 1 scoop Isopure isolate, 1 grapefruit
(65 grams carbs, 35 grams protein, @ 430 cal)
400 mg COQ10
1 gram vitamin C
500 mg vitamin E
5000 mcg Biotin
10 grams micronized Creatine (AST)
10 grams Glutamine (VPX)
15 minutes prior to Meal #3: 1 cap Anabolic Pump
Meal #3: 12 pm
6 oz. chicken/fish/tuna, 1/2 cup brown rice, 1 cup broccoli
3 grams fish oil
(35 grams carbs, 40 grams protein, @ 380 cal)
Mid-afternoon: 3 caps White Blood
1 cap Recreate
2 caps PowerFULL
1 gram L-Carnitine
15 minutes prior to Meal #4: 1 cap Anabolic Pump
Meal #4: 3 pm
6 oz. 96% lean beef, 6 oz. sweet potato
(30 grams carbs, 40 grams protein, @ 340 cal)
2nd Animal Pak (if taking those multi’s for that day; if I take the Beverly multi earlier instead, I’ll supplement with 1 gram vitamin C & 500 mg vitamin E with this meal).
Meal #5: 6 pm
6 oz. tuna, 5 oz. salad w/ 2 TBS olive oil vinaigrette dressing, 1 cup broccoli
(no impact carbs, 40 grams protein, 10 grams fat, @ 300 cal)
Meal #6: 9 pm
1 scoop Bev. Ultra Size, 1 scoop Cytosport Comp. Whey, 1/2 cup fat-free cottage cheese
(12 grams carbs, 47 grams protein, @ 290 cal)
3 grams fish oil.
Bedtime: 3 caps ZMA (Beverly Int.)
1 gram L-Carnitine
1 gram Acetyl L-Carnitine
5 grams BCAA’s (AST)
2 caps PowerFULL
3 caps SuperCissusRx
I’ll also take 6 Ultra 40 tabs (Beverly Int.) with every meal during this time.
DAILY TOTALS: 245 grams carbs, 225 grams protein, 35 grams fat (inc. fish oil) @ 2200 calories
The only variance on this will be at meal #3, where I'll pull out the carbs & AP and slip in a meal of tuna, salsa & broccoli. Other than that, let's rock & roll...
Once I learn how to put a pic in these posts, I'll post a progress shot.
snagency
Banned
The workout format for today:
6x10 squats (heals raised, 75 sec. rest)
2x8 db lunges
2x10 leg extentions
6x15 leg curls
3x10 ham/glute raises w/ pause (ouch)
4x18-22 standing calf raises, toes pointed str/in/out/str
20 minutes HIIT cardio
Took me about 70 minutes.
It's been years since I followed a w/o with cardio; this really kicked my butt. Great sweat tho...
6x10 squats (heals raised, 75 sec. rest)
2x8 db lunges
2x10 leg extentions
6x15 leg curls
3x10 ham/glute raises w/ pause (ouch)
4x18-22 standing calf raises, toes pointed str/in/out/str
20 minutes HIIT cardio
Took me about 70 minutes.
It's been years since I followed a w/o with cardio; this really kicked my butt. Great sweat tho...
snagency
Banned
Today's workout:
5x12 ez bar curls
5x10 reverse-grip ez bar curls
4x8 cable concentration curls
supersetted w/
4x20-30 ez bar wrist curls
5x15 lying tri extention
5x10/10/10/9/8 chins (bodyweight)
3x12 rack pull-ups
2x15 db rows
4x12-15 straight arm db pullovers
8x50 yd. sprints
5 min. light glider (50% effort)
Strength was good today (when hasn't it been w/ this stack?), endurance good too. I was pleased to get my reps in on the chins when my bi's were so pumped like they were. Kinda tweaked my knee running sprints; other than running a few of them a couple weeks back on a leg day when it was warm outside, this was my first time during prep running this hard & this many sets. Knee will be fine tho; no time to worry about being hurt. Besides, I got Cissus man!
5x12 ez bar curls
5x10 reverse-grip ez bar curls
4x8 cable concentration curls
supersetted w/
4x20-30 ez bar wrist curls
5x15 lying tri extention
5x10/10/10/9/8 chins (bodyweight)
3x12 rack pull-ups
2x15 db rows
4x12-15 straight arm db pullovers
8x50 yd. sprints
5 min. light glider (50% effort)
Strength was good today (when hasn't it been w/ this stack?), endurance good too. I was pleased to get my reps in on the chins when my bi's were so pumped like they were. Kinda tweaked my knee running sprints; other than running a few of them a couple weeks back on a leg day when it was warm outside, this was my first time during prep running this hard & this many sets. Knee will be fine tho; no time to worry about being hurt. Besides, I got Cissus man!
avgBdybldr
Member
hey man, is there a specific reason your fatiguing your biceps before training your back? there is no way i could get an effective back workout that way.
snagency
Banned
yes, in fact there is.
every 3rd or 4th back/bi day (i use a 3-day split) i like to shake things up & hit things in reverse order, focus on bi's first & just pump the hell outta them.
typically you're right, i hit back first, & i hit it heavy. today's function was different, just pumping the back w/ different exercises.
lemme tell ya tho, the lats were still flaring when i was done!
still a very effective back w/o for me...Guest
Guest
yes, in fact there is.
every 3rd or 4th back/bi day (i use a 3-day split) i like to shake things up & hit things in reverse order, focus on bi's first & just pump the hell outta them.
typically you're right, i hit back first, & i hit it heavy. today's function was different, just pumping the back w/ different exercises.
lemme tell ya tho, the lats were still flaring when i was done!
Great way to blast the biceps and back is hitting biceps first. THis is more of a mind muscle workout than heavy weights but makes you reall focus on pulling with the back since the biceps are toast already.
snagency
Banned
exactly, and the back was still more swole than on some of my heavy days where i lead off with them.
glad you dropped by - quick dietary question. i've been experimenting with throwing a scoop of mass maker in w/ my nighttime shake & taking AP 15 minutes prior. i usually don't like too many carbs prior to bed, but i noticed i'm waking up more full & tight this way. opinion on this?
so the shake would be 1/2 cup cottage cheese, 1 scoop mass maker, 1 scoop ultra size (macro's: 24g carbs, 5g fat, 37g protein @ 290 cal).
Mulletsoldier
Binging on Pure ****ing Rage
Glycogen retention in a major way.
Anabolic Pump not only increases glycogen storage, but inhibits glucose uptake at the gastrointestinal level. This ensures a more steady, sustained release of carbohydrates.
This is perfectly suited for nighttime carbohydrate eaters such as myself. You get the benefits of necessary carb metabolism at nighttime (when it's most beneficial) without the risk of adipose storage (when it's most probable).
snagency
Banned
thanx man, this has been a pretty easy prep to this point.
the only hard part has been anticipating how many carbs i can go up to & keep recomp going the way i want! learning on the fly with this stuff is a blast tho...
btw, your own training is looking pretty phenomenal as well.
keep logging...
snagency
Banned
hey thanx for swinging in mullet.
well stated. i guess i can infer from that answer then that this format would behoove me in contest prep, 5 weeks out, when i'm in serious lean-out mode then?
Mulletsoldier
Binging on Pure ****ing Rage
Si.
What is your carb tapering like in the final weeks of preparation?
AP chronically increases Insulin sensitivity in a pretty linear fashion over the course of a dosing period; this facilitates the ability to have heightened carbs in preparation mode.
bolt10
Well-known member
thanks man i will continue to keep up all my hard work...your contest should go great tho based on how this is going :cheers:
snagency
Banned
dunno, i'm learning this day-to-day man.
my current diet outline is towards the bottom of page 3.
the only changes i'm feeling right now, since i've started cardio hardcore and have no actual off-days from workouts till peak week, is running 40g carbs before & after cardio workouts (every 4th day) and refraining from complex carbs the rest of those days, taking AP prior to both those meals, no P-Slin those days.
this is just something i'm pondering at this point.
adding the cardio in (also sprints 3x/week following weight training), i may not have to make any changes; i'm just going by feel & the mirror.
snagency
Banned
gratzi.
it'd be nice to post an update pic.
ose:someone was s'posed to tell me about that...
bolt10
Well-known member
gratzi.
it'd be nice to post an update pic.
someone was s'posed to tell me about that...
o crap.....i totally forgot with all my exams oops ima write a pm and send it now....... :run: