Tomhawk Is Eating His Cake And Having It Too (CBL)

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  1. Quote Originally Posted by Tomahawk88 View Post
    I am slowly getting better but dont want to push it too quickly. Looking like I might take a little more time off than I expected. No what I wanted, but no point in returning early if I am just going to delay the come back.

    So far diet hasnt been too hard. I have just been doing ultra low carb. Food selection has been pretty bland but I can deal with it.

    Here is a list of the things I have ate:
    chicken broth with olive oil and pepper
    cottage cheese with protein
    greek yogurt with protein and heavy whipping cream
    eggs and cheese
    protein shake(been using a blender)

    That is literally all I have had haha. Tonight though I am having some Chinese food It will be bean curd. Basically it is tofu, ground pork, and broth. Of course it will be over some jasmine rice. Will be my only carbs until I am back lifting. I figure one awesome meal wont mess me up too bad.
    You convinced me for the CBL Idea , but I seriously fear not getting my carbs right oO and I still have a lot to understand about insulin sensitivity and how to trigger and when to trigger a proper Insulin spike >_>!!! Damn Toma!! Now I gotta do MORE AND MORE reading hahaha
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  2. Quote Originally Posted by MrKleen73 View Post
    No you should be good to go, you already know your carb number so this is just keeping insulin sensitivity peaked.
    Ya felt good to get a few carbs in. Probably wasnt too bad. Had 2 bowls of it and then some yogurt(non greek).

    Quote Originally Posted by Celorza View Post
    You convinced me for the CBL Idea , but I seriously fear not getting my carbs right oO and I still have a lot to understand about insulin sensitivity and how to trigger and when to trigger a proper Insulin spike >_>!!! Damn Toma!! Now I gotta do MORE AND MORE reading hahaha
    Basically a little after your workout drink your protein and carb shake. Another 30-60 minutes later eat your first big carb meal. Food that are going to spike your insulin are good to go. Another thing I do is drink a mix of leucine(really just bcaa but I use 4:1:1 or 8:1:1), creatine, and a half scoop of protein. This helps generate a bigger insulin spike.

    Now if you workout in the morning. All you do differently is drink the same post workout drink without the carbs. Then later in the day closer to when you sleep eat your carbs in the similar fashion. It would really depend on your schedule.

    On days you dont lift dont carb back load. Just do ultra low carb.
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  3. :3 understood! Thanks buddy!
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  4. I am thinking tomorrow I will do a little light cardio. Will be the first time I basically do anything since surgery haha. Was hoping to be back in the gym lifting tomorrow but doesnt seem like a good idea. I am thinking Thursday will be when I am back. Hopefully I will be good to go by then. The time off has given me a chance to read a little more on the diet and all. I dont think I have gotten soft looking(or more soft looking haha) yet. In fact I might actually be a little leaner.

  5. Quote Originally Posted by Tomahawk88 View Post
    I am thinking tomorrow I will do a little light cardio. Will be the first time I basically do anything since surgery haha. Was hoping to be back in the gym lifting tomorrow but doesnt seem like a good idea. I am thinking Thursday will be when I am back. Hopefully I will be good to go by then. The time off has given me a chance to read a little more on the diet and all. I dont think I have gotten soft looking(or more soft looking haha) yet. In fact I might actually be a little leaner.
    Take your time dude! Besides recovery is top o'the list after a surgery! If you do go back on thursday try not to strain yourself! And good you have been reading on it oO I keep devouring every read I can find on it to understand it and plan it out even more!! Keep it up man, and enjoy the cardio and rest time! haha
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  6. My whole weekend was a carb backload. Everything following my workout on Saturday into Sunday was a lot of carbs.
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  8. Hope your feeling better Tom!
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  9. Did you do cardio today Tom? Or followed some advice and rested up ? BTW I have been concentrating my carbs even hevier at night before bed and also adding bulk leucine to my pre-post workout BCAAs , I was thinking of adding the coffee like the guide says for the morning since it doesn't mess up lean gains , but I am on a much needed stim break X_X My adrenal receptors were close to fried and I dont wanna have to start taking revamp to feel them kick in later when I'm back on stims haha!.

    Hope you are better dude!! Keep us posted when you get back to your beast mode!
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  10. Quote Originally Posted by Celorza View Post
    Take your time dude! Besides recovery is top o'the list after a surgery! If you do go back on thursday try not to strain yourself! And good you have been reading on it oO I keep devouring every read I can find on it to understand it and plan it out even more!! Keep it up man, and enjoy the cardio and rest time! haha
    Ya I will try and take it easy. I have a hard time doing it. That is one reason I decided I shouldnt go yesterday.

    Quote Originally Posted by MrKleen73 View Post
    My whole weekend was a carb backload. Everything following my workout on Saturday into Sunday was a lot of carbs.
    Make sure if you carb back load just do it later in the day and on days you lift.

    Quote Originally Posted by JudgementDay View Post
    Hope your feeling better Tom!
    Thanks man. I seem to be getting better daily. Still having a difficult time eating. Ready to be back to normal. Trying to get off the pain meds.

    Quote Originally Posted by Celorza View Post
    Did you do cardio today Tom? Or followed some advice and rested up ? BTW I have been concentrating my carbs even hevier at night before bed and also adding bulk leucine to my pre-post workout BCAAs , I was thinking of adding the coffee like the guide says for the morning since it doesn't mess up lean gains , but I am on a much needed stim break X_X My adrenal receptors were close to fried and I dont wanna have to start taking revamp to feel them kick in later when I'm back on stims haha!.

    Hope you are better dude!! Keep us posted when you get back to your beast mode!
    I did 20 minutes yesterday. Didnt get around to doing it this morning. Probably do it again tomorrow. Dont need to do too much just a few minutes here and there.

    You could always get decaff coffee. Still has the benefit of curbing appetite. Wont get the fat burning and energy bonus though.

  11. Quote Originally Posted by Tomahawk88

    Ya I will try and take it easy. I have a hard time doing it. That is one reason I decided I shouldnt go yesterday.

    Make sure if you carb back load just do it later in the day and on days you lift.

    Thanks man. I seem to be getting better daily. Still having a difficult time eating. Ready to be back to normal. Trying to get off the pain meds.

    I did 20 minutes yesterday. Didnt get around to doing it this morning. Probably do it again tomorrow. Dont need to do too much just a few minutes here and there.

    You could always get decaff coffee. Still has the benefit of curbing appetite. Wont get the fat burning and energy bonus though.
    Supposedly it still has the metabolism effect though, in the article it said that decaf is still good oO!! Though I don't like that kinda coffee haha doesn't taste the same! Love me some black strong Colombian cup! Haha
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  12. Quote Originally Posted by Celorza

    Supposedly it still has the metabolism effect though, in the article it said that decaf is still good oO!! Though I don't like that kinda coffee haha doesn't taste the same! Love me some black strong Colombian cup! Haha
    Then don't worry about it haha. I would drink mine with coconut oil. Which is what I do.

  13. Quote Originally Posted by Tomahawk88

    Then don't worry about it haha. I would drink mine with coconut oil. Which is what I do.
    Dude tell me about it, I love EVCO but my HEB has been OOS of it got like 2 weeks now and I ran out! :S as soon as I get some I'll start on it
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  14. I am definitely thinking of trying this but it will be after my little transformation contest. I know what to expect with my intermittent fasting so I can plan things out better. However I want to give this a shot when experimenting with things is more of an option.
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  15. Quote Originally Posted by Celorza View Post
    Dude tell me about it, I love EVCO but my HEB has been OOS of it got like 2 weeks now and I ran out! :S as soon as I get some I'll start on it
    Well better stock up when they get it back in stock. I run through some EVCO on this diet. A good 2 servings a day easy. Got to get them good fats in my diet.

    Quote Originally Posted by MrKleen73 View Post
    I am definitely thinking of trying this but it will be after my little transformation contest. I know what to expect with my intermittent fasting so I can plan things out better. However I want to give this a shot when experimenting with things is more of an option.
    Ya I am REALLY interested to hear how this works for you. Especially since you are already so lean. I know it has been working great for me. This past week I feel I have really leaned out quite a bit. If I was the pic posting kind I would post some pics.

    Today will be my first day back lifting. Will be hitting chest and biceps. My workout partner's friend is supposed to be joining us. Going to be interesting to see how smoothly the workout goes with 3 people. The ELECT sets will be the most interesting part.

  16. super late. Classic DL videos.
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  17. Quote Originally Posted by Tomahawk88 View Post
    Well better stock up when they get it back in stock. I run through some EVCO on this diet. A good 2 servings a day easy. Got to get them good fats in my diet.



    Ya I am REALLY interested to hear how this works for you. Especially since you are already so lean. I know it has been working great for me. This past week I feel I have really leaned out quite a bit. If I was the pic posting kind I would post some pics.

    Today will be my first day back lifting. Will be hitting chest and biceps. My workout partner's friend is supposed to be joining us. Going to be interesting to see how smoothly the workout goes with 3 people. The ELECT sets will be the most interesting part.
    Yeah I'll stock up! , and good luck on the return to the workout bro! Keep it up, make every rep count , and most importantly , don't hurt yourself haha! Doesn't matter if u take it easy on the weight for some workouts now , as long as you got proper form and ROM you'll be fine !
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  18. Quote Originally Posted by VolcomX311 View Post
    super late. Classic DL videos.
    Ehh not too late. Trying to make this a long running log of my progress to greatness. Might throw in supps randomly here and there but pretty much basic.

    Wouldnt be a proper Tomahawk log without a deadlift video haha. Wont be doing another one for a little while though. Figure I will hold off on X sets for a month or so. Wont be good for my mouth and let my CNS have a little rest.

    Quote Originally Posted by Celorza View Post
    Yeah I'll stock up! , and good luck on the return to the workout bro! Keep it up, make every rep count , and most importantly , don't hurt yourself haha! Doesn't matter if u take it easy on the weight for some workouts now , as long as you got proper form and ROM you'll be fine !
    Thanks man it shouldnt be too bad. Oh I make the most of my workouts. I will ease into the weights a little bit. Just really go off how I am feeling.

  19. Tom, can you explain the ELECT workouts? I keep seeing it and maybe I missed the explanation earlier but what does that mean?
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  20. Quote Originally Posted by MrKleen73 View Post
    Tom, can you explain the ELECT workouts? I keep seeing it and maybe I missed the explanation earlier but what does that mean?
    ditto
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  21. Quote Originally Posted by MrKleen73 View Post
    Tom, can you explain the ELECT workouts? I keep seeing it and maybe I missed the explanation earlier but what does that mean?
    Quote Originally Posted by Celorza View Post
    ditto
    Alright I will give an example.

    Incline BB sets of 3 reps
    135,155,175,195,215,235

    Rough estimate is 5 sets, but if it is a particular good day you can do more. If it is a bad day do less. It is more about how you are feeling that day.

    How you do the sets: you lower the weight for 1 second(for upper body). Right before it hits the bottom explode on the positive portion of the rep. Do this for sets of 3. The rest in between sets is minimal.

    Here is a video that will show it.


    EDIT: got rid of the "dropping" after I reread the article.

  22. Interesting , so 5 (or more) straight ADD sets of 3 reps each , with 1 sec negative then explosive movement back to starting position?
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  23. Ok so that looks similar to the Perfect Rep workout, where they work the way up in weight via sets of three done the same tempo and as soon ad the bar slows on the concentric portion of a set that is the last set you perform. Is it basically the same?
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  24. Quote Originally Posted by Tomahawk88 View Post
    Alright I will give an example.

    Incline BB sets of 3 reps
    135,155,175,195,215,235

    Rough estimate is 5 sets, but if it is a particular good day you can do more. If it is a bad day do less. It is more about how you are feeling that day.

    How you do the sets: you lower the weight for 1 second(for upper body) and then let if drop. Right before it hits the bottom explode on the positive portion of the rep. Do this for sets of 3. The rest in between sets is minimal.

    Here is a video that will show it.
    There was a workout in the video? I just kept seeing a girl moving up and down, may have to watch it again I got tunnel vision. ;-) haha
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  25. Quote Originally Posted by Celorza
    Interesting , so 5 (or more) straight ADD sets of 3 reps each , with 1 sec negative then explosive movement back to starting position?
    It isn't really a set number of sets. Like I said it depends on how you are performing that day. I tend to start on the low end though. But ya.

  26. Quote Originally Posted by MrKleen73
    Ok so that looks similar to the Perfect Rep workout, where they work the way up in weight via sets of three done the same tempo and as soon ad the bar slows on the concentric portion of a set that is the last set you perform. Is it basically the same?
    Actually he suggested people read The Perfect Rep in an earlier article. But ya they are the same thing. Wasn't sure how many people were familiar with The Perfect Rep.

  27. Quote Originally Posted by LiveToLift

    There was a workout in the video? I just kept seeing a girl moving up and down, may have to watch it again I got tunnel vision. ;-) haha
    Haha I know what you mean. I think all of the example videos on his channel are girls haha. Doesn't make it hard to rewatch them at all.

  28. Quote Originally Posted by Tomahawk88

    Haha I know what you mean. I think all of the example videos on his channel are girls haha. Doesn't make it hard to rewatch them at all.
    For real! I'm on week three of Orals yet that still triggered my libido! ;-)
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  29. Quote Originally Posted by LiveToLift View Post
    For real! I'm on week three of Orals yet that still triggered my libido! ;-)
    Haha I was about to say arent you on something suppressive.

    She is a very cute girl. I am not mad at any of the DH youtube videos.

    Was supposed to lift at 630pm. Hopefully going to lift soon. Was planning on lifting on Monday but didnt seem like a good idea. I am anxious as hell to be honest.

    Trying out Animal Rage(powder) today. Took 4 Yok3d earlier though. Probably shouldnt have taken Yok3d. Oh well not particularly interested in Animal Rage. It just came in my can of Animal Pak.

    EDIT: Sipping the Animal Rage(apple jacked). It suggests making a 4oz "shot." I can see why haha. It smells VERY strong like Charms sour apple blow pop. Probably used 8-10oz of water and it tasted watered down. Mixed well enough with just a spoon. Honestly it looked like Hulk piss haha.

  30. So started the workout a little later than expected. Then when I went to look in my gym back for my Fat Gripz... they werent there. It looks like someone stole them to be honest. Which is pretty messed up and I really hope isnt the case, but I have checked my house. Dont see why I would take them out of my gym back anyway. MAYBE I left at the gym, but 99% sure I didnt because I remember for a fact saying "better not leave these here" and taking them off the rope. Tricep rope ext are the last exercise I would use them for that workout.

    Alright enough of that bad BS. Working with a 3 person group today. Wasnt quite sure how strong Eddie was. First exercise he proved he could hold his own. So it looks like it wont be an issue. There will be slight strength differences here and there but nothing major.

    Incline and decline BB press: used basically same weight as before surgery.

    DB pullover: went a little lighter just to be safe.

    Lat pulldown: felt added pressure on my mouth when just bending over. Set felt fine but pressure built up.

    Biceps ELECT: didnt go as heavy on BB curls. Didnt want to push it too hard on close grip chins.

    Hammer curls and rope tricep ext were not really an issue. Used some nice weight without a problem.

    I definitely looked leaner. Had more vein buldging than usual and I dont think it was just the supps. I can see a difference in my mid section.

    Post workout I had a BIG smoothie. Had to use a few 16oz solo cups. It was ice, banana, blackberries, creatine, bcaa(AI), HydroWhey(ON), Protean(IForce), and egg whites. Idk how good of an idea it was though. Might have been a little too filling. Not enough carbs for as filling as it was. Will make it harder to get in all my carbs(and protein) later.
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