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  1. Quote Originally Posted by SweetLou321 View Post
    Why are so many ppl shying away from standing military? I find them to be a great tool for shoulder health, and if done right wont hurt you. Also jim wendler even does them, and he has a shot shoulder...
    Not everyone does. Some do because of shoulder issues (i.e. not being flexible enough or rotator cuff issues). I personally love them (front and behind-the-neck) and think that they are great exercises to incorporate into your resistance training programme, but in the end it's about the individual and what suits them best re needs, etc.

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  2. Quote Originally Posted by SweetLou321 View Post
    Why are so many ppl shying away from standing military? I find them to be a great tool for shoulder health, and if done right wont hurt you. Also jim wendler even does them, and he has a shot shoulder...
    Depends on the individuals goals, personally I feel if you aren't able to do them you need to figure out why and correct the problem. I ONLY do military presses standing but to each their own. Some like to have brute strength and if sitting allows them to press more then great. As Rosie said its all to the individuals preferences and goals.
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  3. sweet ok thanks guys

  4. Quote Originally Posted by SweetLou321 View Post
    sweet ok thanks guys
    No worries, bud I like to do both seated (front) and standing (front and behind-the-neck) military presses - makes for more variety and better overall training for me personally.

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  5. Quote Originally Posted by Rosie Chee Scott View Post
    Not everyone does. Some do because of shoulder issues (i.e. not being flexible enough or rotator cuff issues). I personally love them (front and behind-the-neck) and think that they are great exercises to incorporate into your resistance training programme, but in the end it's about the individual and what suits them best re needs, etc.

    ~Rosie~
    I half clean it, then I military press it Superset that with some one armed bent over rows.......recipe for forcing some growth.

    What I do with the half clean is I stand with the bar, then explosively clean it, then press it, then "de-clean" (um....not sure what to call it bc I don't drop the bar, I let it fall on the tops of my quads while keeping my back straight. Works wonders for my finisher and this is how I finish every Back and SHoulder day.

    But as Rosie said, to each thier own, but I'd be willing to bet those that don't stand and do them bc thier lower back, need to work on thier core (assuming it isn't injured).



    TH, I bet your bis and tris are FRIED after being shelved for the bit they were. Feels good, eh?
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    lol in highschool i ran the original halodrol 50 for 8 weeks with clenbuterol and vodka as pct
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  6. Quote Originally Posted by morry View Post
    I half clean it, then I military press it Superset that with some one armed bent over rows.......recipe for forcing some growth.

    What I do with the half clean is I stand with the bar, then explosively clean it, then press it, then "de-clean" (um....not sure what to call it bc I don't drop the bar, I let it fall on the tops of my quads while keeping my back straight. Works wonders for my finisher and this is how I finish every Back and SHoulder day.

    But as Rosie said, to each thier own, but I'd be willing to bet those that don't stand and do them bc thier lower back, need to work on thier core (assuming it isn't injured).



    TH, I bet your bis and tris are FRIED after being shelved for the bit they were. Feels good, eh?
    My theory is I work my core just a little bit with squats and deadlifts so skipping out on standing overhead press wont kill me. Plus I just feel more comfortable doing seated with a spotter when I know Im going to failure.

    I mean honestly they feel fine now lol, but post workout it hurt to move them at all. I dont think I said what all I ate so I will here.

    2 scoops Muscle Replenisher
    1 brownie
    8 inch double meat sub turkey and ham
    bowl of fried rice

    Workout was:
    Machine seated overhead tricep ext
    Seated tricep ext
    Reverse cable tricep ext

    Straight BB curls
    DB curls

    As far as how I did my sets I started with a decent weight went till I couldnt get anymore reps. Then 10 deep breathes drop to a slightly lighter weight and go to failure again. 10 more deep breathes slight drop in weight again.

    Never had very good arms to be honest. Ok well they didnt look half bad when I wrestled

  7. Quote Originally Posted by Tomahawk88 View Post
    My theory is I work my core just a little bit with squats and deadlifts so skipping out on standing overhead press wont kill me. Plus I just feel more comfortable doing seated with a spotter when I know Im going to failure.

    I mean honestly they feel fine now lol, but post workout it hurt to move them at all. I dont think I said what all I ate so I will here.

    2 scoops Muscle Replenisher
    1 brownie
    8 inch double meat sub turkey and ham
    bowl of fried rice

    Workout was:
    Machine seated overhead tricep ext
    Seated tricep ext
    Reverse cable tricep ext

    Straight BB curls
    DB curls

    As far as how I did my sets I started with a decent weight went till I couldnt get anymore reps. Then 10 deep breathes drop to a slightly lighter weight and go to failure again. 10 more deep breathes slight drop in weight again.

    Never had very good arms to be honest. Ok well they didnt look half bad when I wrestled
    Agreed and to each thier own. The point is, if it work for you, do it. Are you going on a cut in a while. I know you are getting the swing of things now, I'm just asking for the future?
    Quote Originally Posted by swollen87 View Post
    lol in highschool i ran the original halodrol 50 for 8 weeks with clenbuterol and vodka as pct
    http://anabolicminds.com/forum/old-school-hormone/193259-begins-morry-vs.html

  8. Quote Originally Posted by morry View Post
    Agreed and to each thier own. The point is, if it work for you, do it. Are you going on a cut in a while. I know you are getting the swing of things now, I'm just asking for the future?
    Ya Im going to try and cut now. Figure it will be easier if Im only eating 3 times a day compared to 6 or so. I know most say 6 a day, but damn it is just like a big ole tease to me. Plus lately I havent even been hungry because Im full when I eat. Need to clean it up a bit, but it should work in theory.

    I got up to almost 240 on my last cycle. That is a bit of weight to be walking around with when you are only 5'7"(being honest). Especially since Im not as lean as I would like. I lift because I love to lift, but damn it would be nice to look good in the mirror. Right now Im about 220. I have toyed with the idea of adding in fat loss supps, but think it would be better if I left them out to see the true potential of this diet(for me). Of course that doesnt mean Im going to cut out the nutrient partitioners

    Going shooting tomorrow after not going in a while. Wish me luck cant have my old man shoot better than me or I will never hear the end of it lol.

    Interested to see how sore I am going to be tomorrow morning. Surprised my legs and ass are not more sore after squats yesterday.

  9. I had no idea what they said about spin teachers, lol I used to teach a long time ago, and have since gotten into it....GREAT workout and I like pushing myself....

    Sounds like you have a plan and glad your feeling better, will try to be around more, harder lately with work, spin and still barfing...

    TC
    RIP Ryan, :(

  10. Quote Originally Posted by SweetLou321 View Post
    Why are so many ppl shying away from standing military? I find them to be a great tool for shoulder health, and if done right wont hurt you. Also jim wendler even does them, and he has a shot shoulder...
    Tomahawk isn't "shying" away from them. He stated that when he performs this exercise that it tweaks something in his neck. Nothing "shy" about that.
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  11. Quote Originally Posted by morry View Post
    What I do with the half clean is I stand with the bar, then explosively clean it, then press it, then "de-clean" (um....not sure what to call it bc I don't drop the bar, I let it fall on the tops of my quads while keeping my back straight. Works wonders for my finisher and this is how I finish every Back and SHoulder day.
    I do something like this. For some reason I haven't been able to find a seated military press that doesn't kill my shoulder unracking the weight. I always see people trying to copy me with the short olympic bar and they end up hurting themselves. I guess I'm a bad influence
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  12. Quote Originally Posted by 2k1s View Post
    For some reason I haven't been able to find a seated military press that doesn't kill my shoulder unracking the weight.
    What about Smith-Machine Military Presses?
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  13. Quote Originally Posted by thundergod View Post
    What about Smith-Machine Military Presses?
    They would work.

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  15. Quote Originally Posted by toughchick401 View Post
    I had no idea what they said about spin teachers, lol I used to teach a long time ago, and have since gotten into it....GREAT workout and I like pushing myself....

    Sounds like you have a plan and glad your feeling better, will try to be around more, harder lately with work, spin and still barfing...

    TC
    Lol I was joking about spin teachers.

    Ya I hope this plan works. Well I hope things get easier and the food stays down.

    Quote Originally Posted by thundergod View Post
    Tomahawk isn't "shying" away from them. He stated that when he performs this exercise that it tweaks something in his neck. Nothing "shy" about that.
    Ya wouldnt be very smart of me to keep doing something that lays me up. I like doing them, but it isnt like they are squats or deadlifts(essential to living).

    Quote Originally Posted by thundergod View Post
    What about Smith-Machine Military Presses?
    Should work if they have a good seat. Being able to adjust where you come off the rack. My gym has a military press rack with it far behind you to allow for behind the neck presses.

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  16. Im here - for when you need a shoulder to lean on got some of the high rollers in here I see!


  17. Quote Originally Posted by Tomahawk88 View Post


    squats or deadlifts(essential to living)
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  18. Quote Originally Posted by Tomahawk88 View Post
    Well so far I like it. Havent really followed it much except for the whole 8 eat 16 fast. Plus the 3 meals a day plus lots of water. Reading will be done soon.

    Ya what I have tried is good but I like the idea of 4:1:1 bcaa ratio.

    That is one of the few NTBM supps I havent gotten around to trying. Might have to with this fasting diet.
    i would definately try the gear, i am intriqued by what it could do.


    just bought a freaking ton of stuff, but gonna add it to my next list.

    send me a discount code, lol.
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  19. Quote Originally Posted by StakedCop View Post
    Im here - for when you need a shoulder to lean on got some of the high rollers in here I see!
    Lol you are too tall for that. Ya Idk why they are here for little ole me

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    See you know what Im talking about.

    Quote Originally Posted by thebigt View Post
    i would definately try the gear, i am intriqued by what it could do.


    just bought a freaking ton of stuff, but gonna add it to my next list.

    send me a discount code, lol.
    Ya I plan on getting 2 bottles to toy with

    azntomahawkchop15 saves 15% off your order.

  20. Quote Originally Posted by Tomahawk88 View Post
    Lol you are too tall for that. Ya Idk why they are here for little ole me



    See you know what Im talking about.



    Ya I plan on getting 2 bottles to toy with

    azntomahawkchop15 saves 15% off your order.
    geezus, why couldn't you be just tom15%, lol.
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  21. Quote Originally Posted by Tomahawk88 View Post
    Lol you are too tall for that. Ya Idk why they are here for little ole me



    See you know what Im talking about.



    Ya I plan on getting 2 bottles to toy with

    azntomahawkchop15 saves 15% off your order.
    geezus, why couldn't you be just tom15%, lol. what happened to the 25%?
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  22. Quote Originally Posted by Tomahawk88 View Post
    Lol you are too tall for that. Ya Idk why they are here for little ole me


    coming from the deadlift king himself........


    You're being too hard on yourself. You said you were tired of being a little heavy but lifting a ton and you are going to focus on some aesthetics, right?
    Switching gears is going to be like starting all over bc your goals are going to be so different and your methods HAVE to be different.

    Pulling the weight I saw you pull in the youtube video......you have great potential my friend. Keep the faith in yourself and remember you are your own worst critic.
    Last edited by morry; 04-09-2011 at 11:04 PM. Reason: quote messup
    Quote Originally Posted by swollen87 View Post
    lol in highschool i ran the original halodrol 50 for 8 weeks with clenbuterol and vodka as pct
    http://anabolicminds.com/forum/old-school-hormone/193259-begins-morry-vs.html
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    Quote Originally Posted by thebigt View Post
    geezus, why couldn't you be just tom15%, lol. what happened to the 25%?
    Haha, he just likes to be difficult And the 25% was just a promo for the month.


    Also wanted to agree with what morry posted. Changing goals is hard to do, man. Just like a lot of what we do, it comes down to you vs. your ego - you've gotta beat it. Focus on one thing at a time. Sacrifice a little strength short-term to gain the goal you currently want, then slowly build yourself back up to that strength. You can do it, bud.

  24. Quote Originally Posted by Tomahawk88 View Post
    Lol I was joking about spin teachers.

    Ya I hope this plan works. Well I hope things get easier and the food stays down.



    Ya wouldnt be very smart of me to keep doing something that lays me up. I like doing them, but it isnt like they are squats or deadlifts(essential to living).



    Should work if they have a good seat. Being able to adjust where you come off the rack. My gym has a military press rack with it far behind you to allow for behind the neck presses.



    Good to have you in here man
    One thing I know for certain we had a mini riot at work today< I went RUNNING, and I hit the floor taking a kid down with me, no one hits my co worker... I didnt know I had it in me ....LOL spin is great!!!!

    Glad to be here..
    RIP Ryan, :(

  25. Quote Originally Posted by StakedCop View Post
    Im here - for when you need a shoulder to lean on
    Quote Originally Posted by Tomahawk88 View Post
    Lol you are too tall for that. Ya Idk why they are here for little ole me
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  26. Arnt you doing 5/3/1? Im positive you can achieve your physique goals and maintain strength. Ive been running a bodybuilder 5/3/1 hybrid for about 6 monthes now. My gains are great and my strength is on the rise. deads and squats are up 60lbs and my bench and oh press are up 45lbs. You got this!

  27. Quote Originally Posted by thebigt View Post
    geezus, why couldn't you be just tom15%, lol.
    Lol I know people probably dont use my code for that reason alone. But it is def easy to remember lol.

    Quote Originally Posted by morry View Post
    coming from the deadlift king himself........


    You're being too hard on yourself. You said you were tired of being a little heavy but lifting a ton and you are going to focus on some aesthetics, right?
    Switching gears is going to be like starting all over bc your goals are going to be so different and your methods HAVE to be different.

    Pulling the weight I saw you pull in the youtube video......you have great potential my friend. Keep the faith in yourself and remember you are your own worst critic.
    Shoot Im def not the deadlift king. 495 for 5 is bitch weight(no offense to anyone who does that or less, but I want 700 )

    I know the goal is to change my diet first to find what will be most effective for me. I like 5/3/1 for strength, but I feel like it can be a good basis for my goal on leaning down. Still want that dense look you get with heavy weights.

    Quote Originally Posted by MidwestBeast View Post
    Haha, he just likes to be difficult And the 25% was just a promo for the month.


    Also wanted to agree with what morry posted. Changing goals is hard to do, man. Just like a lot of what we do, it comes down to you vs. your ego - you've gotta beat it. Focus on one thing at a time. Sacrifice a little strength short-term to gain the goal you currently want, then slowly build yourself back up to that strength. You can do it, bud.
    We shall see who wins "me vs I"

    I wont lie I am looking forward to when I can put some more "gym candy" in my body. But that is def a ways off. Got to make sure everything is recovered.

    Quote Originally Posted by toughchick401 View Post
    One thing I know for certain we had a mini riot at work today< I went RUNNING, and I hit the floor taking a kid down with me, no one hits my co worker... I didnt know I had it in me ....LOL spin is great!!!!

    Glad to be here..
    I didnt doubt you did listening to the rage you display while driving I might try going on mondays if the milf is there still. Hit back early in the day carb back up and die while doing spin.

    Quote Originally Posted by SweetLou321 View Post
    Arnt you doing 5/3/1? Im positive you can achieve your physique goals and maintain strength. Ive been running a bodybuilder 5/3/1 hybrid for about 6 monthes now. My gains are great and my strength is on the rise. deads and squats are up 60lbs and my bench and oh press are up 45lbs. You got this!
    Mind hititng me with a PM to see how you have that set up?

  28. Didnt go shooting today so that was a shitty way to start the day off. Helped a friend(and workout partner) who recently had to get a new truck. He bought a chicken pizza and we watched the Strikeforce PPV. Ended up eating out of schedule, but it is hard to say no to free pizza lol. Also found out he is back to lifting, but he is going on base to the fitness center. The fitness center is free so hard to argue. I just renewed for this month so Im staying at the gym. The fitness center might have some girls to look at but honestly not that much. Plus it gets so crowded. Was kind of funny having people watch me lift though lol. I swear when I was deadlifting I looked up and half the people stopped working out to watch me. The sad part is they probably didnt even know what I was doing just saw a bunch of plates.

    The arms are still really sore. Forgot how this felt. Think I might make it a habit of including an arm day. It is nice to beat them up.

  29. i pm'd you

  30. Another rest day today and much needed. Still plenty sore from my arm day on Friday. Triceps are still very much in pain. Biceps feel pretty much healed up which isnt unusual they never really get all that sore.

    For my delayed lunch I had a footlong sub from Firehouse. Thinking I should have added a protein shake to it. Then about 4 hours later I had steak(10-12oz), spinach, and some protein fluff(Lean Gains). Pretty sure I will be full until the next time to eat lol.

    Tomorrow will be back so here we go...

    Deadlift (570) with [515] being my adjusted max:
    335*5
    385*5
    435*5

    We shall see what I do to follow that up.
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