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    Subscribe. Great work so far awsome log keep it up! One question i have is do you get used to the headaches with the alb?

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    Quote Originally Posted by zaph123
    Subscribe. Great work so far awsome log keep it up! One question i have is do you get used to the headaches with the alb?

    Thanks Zaph123. To tell you the truth bro, I didn't have any headaches the week and a half I have been on it. When I was on clen I had headaches and they subsided after the first couple of days. They should go away after 2 or 3 days... if not lower your dosage until your body is able to tolerate it.
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    Day10:
    Back workout went well today(DL's, Tbar, rows, pullups, lat pulldowns, and vgrip pulldowns). Sweaty like usual and lifts increased on dls today. That made me pretty happy. Where I use to struggle to get 365 for 6, it was easy today.
    Cardio was intense as usual. Went for 30minutes on the elliptical. I don't think this sounds right but the machine said my Max HR was 235 and Low was 233??? Burned 500 cals in 33mins. I was soaked as well as the machine. I may take my bf on sat because my abs are pretty visible. Will update my diet log later.


    Cal intake for the day using fitday:
    Cals:2148
    Fat:38
    Carb:135
    Prot:303
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    Your doing a great job on youre log. Keep up the good work. sounds like its working out well for you so far...
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    Quote Originally Posted by Achilles13
    Day10:
    Back workout went well today(DL's, Tbar, rows, pullups, lat pulldowns, and vgrip pulldowns). Sweaty like usual and lifts increased on dls today. That made me pretty happy. Where I use to struggle to get 365 for 6, it was easy today.
    Cardio was intense as usual. Went for 30minutes on the elliptical. I don't think this sounds right but the machine said my Max HR was 235 and Low was 233??? Burned 500 cals in 33mins. I was soaked as well as the machine. I may take my bf on sat because my abs are pretty visible. Will update my diet log later.
    233 is highly highly unlikely. a lot of these machines cant differentiate machine noise from heart rate. a good, check that - decent, estimate of your max heart rate is 220-age (plus or minus nearly 15 beats per minute). try checking manually sometime in the middle of your workout and just after you are done.

    BTW - great job sofar! diet staying in check?
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    Quote Originally Posted by BigMatty
    Your doing a great job on youre log. Keep up the good work. sounds like its working out well for you so far...

    Thanks bro! I learned from the guy who started it all .


    I just really like how it aids cardio. I mean I am in total awe because there hasn't been one day where I don't look foward towards cardio. It has also helped out with my midsection as well. Thanks for lookin in BM.
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    Quote Originally Posted by deebs
    233 is highly highly unlikely. a lot of these machines cant differentiate machine noise from heart rate. a good, check that - decent, estimate of your max heart rate is 220-age (plus or minus nearly 15 beats per minute). try checking manually sometime in the middle of your workout and just after you are done.

    BTW - great job sofar! diet staying in check?

    Well checked like at the 20minute mark or somewhere around there and it read 229 to 235... somewhere around that. I didn't think it was right at all. Could be messed up from all the sweat that i get on there... lol. Tomorrow i will check when i am in the mid of my workout and done to see what HR is at.


    Thanks bro for the words. Diet is in check, have a cheat meal on sat evening but that is about it. But hell, I work from 5am to 7pm. I kind of consider that a workout seeing how pulling heavy pallets on pallet-jacks that are crappy so you are doing all the work, then throw out cases of soda and then on top of that condense everything else down. Pretty good workout to me IMO. Damn shirt is pretty soaked. But yeah, diet has been on point, only thing I could really do away from would be the 3-5 diet sodas i have a day...(Coke Zero, Diet Coke, Diet Pepper). Thanks for looking in deebs.
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    233 is highly unlikely. the heartrate minus your age is all bs. its good for people that are not fit. but people that are can range anywhere. but i doubt it got that high. mine gets in the upper 210 range (every once in a while) but im also running all out. yours should not be that high just doing 30 min on a machine.


    but then agian your taking albuteral... watch your heart rate. if your heart is not used to that kind of work than that = bad news.
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    Cool


    Nice log! When are you taking your dosages in the day? Also, any trouble falling asleep?

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    Quote Originally Posted by 400runner
    233 is highly unlikely. the heartrate minus your age is all bs. its good for people that are not fit. but people that are can range anywhere. but i doubt it got that high. mine gets in the upper 210 range (every once in a while) but im also running all out. yours should not be that high just doing 30 min on a machine.
    220-age is just an estimate for max heart rate, and a raw estimate at that. that equation is given with the caveat that it has +/- 15bpm error.

    Heart rates over 200 during exercise for people in their 20's are not uncommon, but they are not the norm either. max HR is going to be prettymuch the same regardless of how fit you are. what changes with fitness is the hr required to sustain activity at a workload, which will decrease with higher fitness. the heart needs to beat less to provide the working muscle groups with oxygen and nutrients, mainly because stoke volume (blood pumped per beat) is increasing.

    so... Achilles, the 220-age was in my post to help you see that the 233 was probably the machine miscalculating. id stop and take your pulse manually in the middle and when you are done, or have a friend take it when you stop. the gym you are at may also have polar HR monitors, or BP kits with stethoscopes and a trainer could take it using that...
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    Day11:
    Today was shoulder/trap day. Workout went smooth. Weight increased while still doing the same amount of reps on DB Shoulder Press. Still feeling the same things that i felt at the beginning... warm throughout the day, sweating like crazy, and cardio is still good. When I first started cardio today, about a minute into my workout, I checked HR and it didn't give back anything. I did it again around 5 minutes and it said around 100. 15 minute mark it was around 138 to 150. At the end of the workout, my Max HR was 160 and minimum was 133. Sounds better from the previous day lol. Both workouts still going smooth along with my diet and albuterol is living up to its name.
    Side note, another way I can tell is the simple fact that today at my dad's practice, I was dunking the ball with ease(one hand). Usually I have to strain or really struggle to get it, but today i basically jumped over the rim and through the ball in. I dunked with 2 hands once but that was it. DOMS is really kickin my ass right now. Legs still haven't fully recovered from tuesday. Half the time it feels like i am gonna fall down lol. But yeah, i've shed some lbs and I am happy with alb.


    Cal intake for the day using fitday:
    Cals:2325
    Fat:40
    Carb:143
    Prot:338
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    Quote Originally Posted by 400runner
    233 is highly unlikely. the heartrate minus your age is all bs. its good for people that are not fit. but people that are can range anywhere. but i doubt it got that high. mine gets in the upper 210 range (every once in a while) but im also running all out. yours should not be that high just doing 30 min on a machine.


    but then agian your taking albuteral... watch your heart rate. if your heart is not used to that kind of work than that = bad news.

    That's the first time my HR has been that high(even though it really wasnt). I just think the machine was messed up probably from all my sweat on there...lol Usually my hr is around 180 or slightly higher and somewhere for a low of 130.
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    Quote Originally Posted by rysigpi
    Nice log! When are you taking your dosages in the day? Also, any trouble falling asleep?

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    Thanks Ryno,
    I usually dose in the morning(around 7-8am), afternoon(11:30-12:00pm), and late afternoon(3:30-5:30). Somewhere in between those times is where I ususally dose. I haven't had any trouble falling asleep. None at all... actually i've been sleeping like a baby .
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    Quote Originally Posted by deebs
    220-age is just an estimate for max heart rate, and a raw estimate at that. that equation is given with the caveat that it has +/- 15bpm error.

    Heart rates over 200 during exercise for people in their 20's are not uncommon, but they are not the norm either. max HR is going to be prettymuch the same regardless of how fit you are. what changes with fitness is the hr required to sustain activity at a workload, which will decrease with higher fitness. the heart needs to beat less to provide the working muscle groups with oxygen and nutrients, mainly because stoke volume (blood pumped per beat) is increasing.

    so... Achilles, the 220-age was in my post to help you see that the 233 was probably the machine miscalculating. id stop and take your pulse manually in the middle and when you are done, or have a friend take it when you stop. the gym you are at may also have polar HR monitors, or BP kits with stethoscopes and a trainer could take it using that...

    My gym doesn't have HR monitors or bp kits. I'll ask the trainers tomorrow if they do but I highly doubt they do. Like you have said, I think the machine was miscaculating my HR. Today was totally different as you can tell.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Achilles13
    Thanks bro! I learned from the guy who started it all .
    Glad i was able to help. besides learning from this site i feel i need to contribute to it as well. good to know it was a postive contribution thanks A


    Quote Originally Posted by achilles13
    I just really like how it aids cardio. I mean I am in total awe because there hasn't been one day where I don't look foward towards cardio. It has also helped out with my midsection as well. Thanks for lookin in BM.
    Yeah i hear ya on that i was also amazed how much better my cardio workouts were. I didnt get exhausted really even to the end. im happy to hear its also showing results in youre midsection as well. great stuff

    Keeping up with the log very well good work!!

    BTYW incase anyone didnt get the email ibe is having a buy one get one free sale on the alb right now. im def going to put in another order while that sale lasts!!
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    I just took advantage of that buy one get one free. Shoot....2-60ml bottles for $38 dollars shipped!!!
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    Day12:
    Things started out rough. Had a test early as hell in the morning and had to rush to school... forgot my damn alb and couldn't dose at the proper time. So that pushed my gym time back a bit. Dosed in the after noon, then about 30 to 45 mins later I hit the gym. Today was bis,tris, and delts. Great workout all around. Kind of slow, due to people who want tot shoot the sh** instead of lift, but still has the regular sweat was there and muscles were worked good.
    I didn't get around to doing cardio today because the super bowl weekend. My work will be cut out for this weekend , so I KNOW I will get a good cardio workout while I am there. Also, I squated on tuesday and here it is friday and it still feels as if someone is stabbing me in my quads. I have some taurine put up in my closet I may have to pull out. If i don't get around to doing cardio tomorrow, most likely I will make it up by running my block tomorrow or hitting the gym on sunday for some cardio.

    Cal intake for the day using fitday:
    Cals:2517
    Fat:43
    Carb:165
    Prot:354

    Note: After 12 days of using albuterol, my receptors still are in good shape. I thought i'd need some keto or benedryl by now... but guess not.
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    Quote Originally Posted by BigMatty
    Glad i was able to help. besides learning from this site i feel i need to contribute to it as well. good to know it was a postive contribution thanks A




    Yeah i hear ya on that i was also amazed how much better my cardio workouts were. I didnt get exhausted really even to the end. im happy to hear its also showing results in youre midsection as well. great stuff

    Keeping up with the log very well good work!!

    BTYW incase anyone didnt get the email ibe is having a buy one get one free sale on the alb right now. im def going to put in another order while that sale lasts!!

    Always inspiring words Bm, Thanks brotha. I will look into tht sale... No sense on missing out on a great opportunity...
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    Quote Originally Posted by rysigpi
    I just took advantage of that buy one get one free. Shoot....2-60ml bottles for $38 dollars shipped!!!

    Atta boy... I think I will be placing my order soon.
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    thinkin' about starting an albuterol cycle and I'm wondering about Ketotifen, where do i get this from and when would one start using it. do i start using keto once i notice the effects of the albuterol going away, will it be that apparent?? also wat kind of dosage should i use with the ketotifen. i also heard that benadryl is good for freshening the receptors but from wat i heard ketotifen is better rite?? also achilles i have kind of a random question or for anyone else who knows, u mentioned a couple of times that u feel that diet soda is holding u back and feel like u need to cut it out. y is that??? it has 0 cals. i just wondering cuz i drink diet sodas on occasion myself. thanx
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    Day13:
    Work day for me. Went to work when it was dark, finished when it was dark... But anywho today, didn't feel the sweats as I normally do when taking the albuterol. Maybe I spoke to soon in my previous post. I log again tomorrow to see how I feel, but the next time I do cardio I will be able to give a definite answer.
    One postive note for the today, my vascularity has 'increased'. By this I mean that my veins are apparent in my shoulders, bis, and wrists. Good sh*t.


    Diet was good today. I had my once cheat meal and from there everything is well. I'm ready to start my finally week to see how I have progressed.
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    Day14:
    No workout today. Only thing I did was work from am to pm. Go to work when the sun is down and come home when the sun is down. Anywho my workouts start again tomorrow. Cardio will be included. Diet was on point today. I wasn't sweating like I normally do, but energy was there. IDK, I can let you guys know tomorrow how it goes when I do my Hiit on the elliptical. If I need to I will go pick up some benedryl and dose that. I'll let you guys know after my workout tomorrow.


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    Cals:2348
    Fat:46
    Carb:109
    Prot:358
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    achilles u replied to one of my earlier posts that u used lipo6 be4 how would u compare albuterol with that product. i was actually thinking of running a cycle of lipo 6 but now i'm leaning more 2ward albuterol after some research, this will be the first and hopefully last cutting supplement i've used. is there any precautions one should take when using albuterol such as other supps,, i've read about the sides, couldn't really find any possible long term effects is there any out there.
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    Day15:
    Worked chest and abs today. I had a nice and smooth workout. Lifts were the same as last week but more concentrated. Cardio was good. Legs still a little stiff from work, but good hiit workout today. Max HR was 161 and min was 130.

    Updates: I'm down 2lbs, so that would put me at 240lbs. Down 5lbs since I started albuterol and I am very pleased. I think the effects are starting to ware off. Not sweating like I use too, and body isn't too warm. But funny thing is, I am still having good cardio workouts. Hmmm. It may be time to start the benedryl, but not sure because cardio was pretty good. I didn't get a chance to take my bf today, trainer wasn't in, in time. Will try to get tomorrow for an update.


    Cal intake for the day using fitday:
    Cals:2164
    Fat:40
    Carb:144
    Prot:293
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    Quote Originally Posted by dess
    thinkin' about starting an albuterol cycle and I'm wondering about Ketotifen, where do i get this from and when would one start using it. do i start using keto once i notice the effects of the albuterol going away, will it be that apparent?? also wat kind of dosage should i use with the ketotifen. i also heard that benadryl is good for freshening the receptors but from wat i heard ketotifen is better rite?? also achilles i have kind of a random question or for anyone else who knows, u mentioned a couple of times that u feel that diet soda is holding u back and feel like u need to cut it out. y is that??? it has 0 cals. i just wondering cuz i drink diet sodas on occasion myself. thanx
    Sorry it took me so long to respond, throwin out 1700 cases of soda was tiring but I got the job done...
    You really don't need Keto unless your receptors are worn out. You usually dose it for bed. I've read that it is better for you than benedryl but I am not for sure, I haven't used either of them. Start with 1mg of keto before bedtime and see how your body tolerates it. You can pick up keto from some of the sponsers on this board, just search a little.
    As far as the albuterol wearing out... its kind of hard to say. My body isnt warm, not sweating like i use too, but my cardio workouts are still great.
    As far as the diet sodas, I've read a couple threads here on board and started a thread on the topic, everything I read was basically it was okay to drink them. Me personally, I feel bloated to hell when I drink them. Maybe the splenda is spiking the the insulin... we never know. I mean, i can drink crystal light and not feel heavy(35mgs of sodium 5 cals) and not feel bloated, but when I drink coke zero, sprite zero, or diet pepper, i feel like I have eatin a sh*tload of cals. Maybe it's just all a mind game. It's up to you whether you drink them or not. I'll leave that up to you.
    My personal experience when not driniking diet soda, I was leaner than I am now drinking diet soda. If you want to be lean as possible, I say leave them out, but if you just like to be lean(no tummy etc..) I say drink them. Just depends on your goals.
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    Quote Originally Posted by dess
    achilles u replied to one of my earlier posts that u used lipo6 be4 how would u compare albuterol with that product. i was actually thinking of running a cycle of lipo 6 but now i'm leaning more 2ward albuterol after some research, this will be the first and hopefully last cutting supplement i've used. is there any precautions one should take when using albuterol such as other supps,, i've read about the sides, couldn't really find any possible long term effects is there any out there.

    Heart palpations and increased body temperature are the ones I am familiar with. Since lipo6 doesn't have ephedra in it anymore, I couldn't tell you how it is now. But back then it was GREAT. I'd go with Albuterol... great for cardio workouts and burning fat.
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    Day16:
    Today's workout consited of legs. Squats, leg press, lunges, calf raises, steated calf raises, leg curls, etc. Great workout. I was able to do concentrated reps and move through sets at good pace. Went down on reps on my squat though, but tha was because I added more weight. 335x10..355x8..375x6.. and 405x3. Anywho, great sweat today, didn't feel to warm, but started pouring when I did my leg workout.
    Didn't do any cardio today... trying to give legs a break from squatin but will pick back up on cardio tomorrow.
    I am feeling leaner and upon waking up in the morning, abs are VERY visible. So far so good.
    Diet is still clean, chicken breast, oats, turkey, salad, green beans, etc.
    UPDATES: Vascularity and solidness is steady increasing.


    Cal intake for the day using fitday:
    Cals:2659
    Fat:79
    Carb:137
    Prot:335
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    Awesome. Keep up the good work!
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    Day17:
    Great back workout today. Deadlifts, tbar, pullups, rows, lat pulldown, and vgrip pulldown. Not sweating like I did earlier in the cycle, but still sweating. Lifts were up slightly today but not much. I'm still feeling solid throughout the day and veins coming out nicely in forearms.
    Cardio was pretty good today for only a day of rest off of legs. Max HR was 191 and min HR was 160. Like on my workouts, i am not sweating as I did when I first began. I think receptors are worn out but I only have a couple more days so i will just go through it. I still feel good on my cardio, just not sweating like I use too.
    UPDATES: I took my BF% measurement today with the same electronic scale. In normal mode i was 16.4. In atheletic mode i was 14.4. I'm down 3% in normal and 2% in atheletic...


    Cal intake for the day using fitday:
    Cals:2357
    Fat:44
    Carb:139
    Prot:336
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    any idea how long it takes for the receptors to refresh after last dose in a cycle?
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    Quote Originally Posted by SprtNvolcoM
    Been following ... 1 QUESTION:
    Clen Or Albuterol?

    ALbuterol by far for me. If you aren't worried about the sides, I say go with clen. When I was on clen, all the sides occured and it didn't help one bit with cardio. Takin albuterol, no sides and help alot with cardio. Fatloss is about same, but clen my be slightly better. The choice is yours, but for me, albuterol will be my choice.
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    Quote Originally Posted by deebs
    any idea how long it takes for the receptors to refresh after last dose in a cycle?

    I always read that time on equals time off. Personally, I think it would be around a week and a half for them to refresh. Since I was on for three weeks, I will be off three weeks and stay clean to let receptors refresh. I will still continue to cut until I have reached my desired weight and bf.
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    Day18:
    Today was shoulder and trap day. Nice smooth workout but not sweating like I should be. Besides the fact that I am not sweating like i did previously, everything else is fine. Cardio today was pretty intense. Max HR was 180 low was 163. Today's cardio was like the first couple days during first part of my cylce. Shirt was half way soaked liked first week of cycle. No updates to report. I will probably take weight again in a couple of days.


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    FWIW I just read over at IBE that T3 can upregulate the beta-2 receptors...
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    Quote Originally Posted by Grunt76
    FWIW I just read over at IBE that T3 can upregulate the beta-2 receptors...

    Yeah, but T3 gives the possibilty of shutting down my thyroid. IMO too dangerous for me.
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    Day19:
    Workes bis, tris, and delts. Okay workout. Moved through it pretty smoothly. Had a couple peeps comment on my weight loss and some who asked for spots. Lifts were same as last week if anything, weight has increased.
    Cardio was great. Sweated like I normally do and good pace. Max HR was around 175 and min was around 159. Last day is tomorrow and I will have the day off from the gym, but in it's place, I will be working.
    For anyone who wanted to look at my diet, I posted it in this section as well. I've been following something very similar if not the exact same. I will post workout next week for critique. Next week, I am taking off from lifting because that is what is in Max-ot's training, but I will still be doing my cardio and ab workouts.


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    Are you planning a follow-up cycle somewhere in the next couple months?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Achilles13
    ALbuterol by far for me. If you aren't worried about the sides, I say go with clen. When I was on clen, all the sides occured and it didn't help one bit with cardio. Takin albuterol, no sides and help alot with cardio. Fatloss is about same, but clen my be slightly better. The choice is yours, but for me, albuterol will be my choice.
    I havent tried clen yet. But I got basically no sides from 2 Alb cycles ran close (just time for the receptors to clean).

    I want to try topical clen (in lipoderm carrier) to compare. I suggest you try that too
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    Day20:
    Two days ago.. I would've posted awhile back, but I don't give off work until late in the afternoon. Seems like at night, the board gets really slow and I can't log in. Yesterday, anytime i clicked on a link(night time) it gave me error message talking about lines and arguments. Anywho...


    Work sat was a breeze. Got a good sweat in pushing and pulling pallets. I finished up with my last dosages and all was well.


    I'll post all the updated information to let all know how the cycle went later on...
  

  
 

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