So what does T-3 FEEL like when you're on it?

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  1. So I've been at 75mcs for 4 days now and I started feeling the effects pretty quickly as I've been sweating like a pig. It's been made worse by the fact that it's gotten much hotter around here lately, but the increased sweat is definitely from the T3. I've stopped taking the Katanadrol as I was breaking out like a nervous 15 year old. I bumped up the Havoc to 60mcs and I'm still using 5 pumps of Dermacrine ED.


  2. Quote Originally Posted by greaser View Post
    Wow man - I've never heard of anyone running ECA for THAT long. Your receptors must be really downregulated, so I'm surprised the clen is still working for you. Are you taking ketotifen or at least Benadryl to upregulate your receptors?
    Yes, I take 1mg of ketotifen and 50mg diphenhydramine each night. I'm done with the Clen today anyway.

    I imagine that your doctor and most guys on here would have freaked out when you were over 300lbs and running stims like that, but you sure had some impressive results -- and you're not dead, so.... I assume you were also training and watching your diet as well. The way a lot of this stuff ends up getting banned is that some morbidly obese person thinks "oh I can just take a pill and I'll lose fat!" And they end up having a heart attack because they were in such bad shape to begin with.
    Yeah, I wouldn't recommend anyone doing what I did.
    But I'd do it all over again anyway.

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  3. Quote Originally Posted by Sturmgewehr58 View Post
    I went from 330 lbs to 180 in twelve months on ECA. From there I went down to 137 lbs within six months. I eventually stabilized around 150.

    I started a new job, unfortunately working at a desk all day and went up to 190 lbs. After over two years on ECA, it didn't seem to have much of an effect anymore.

    I've been keeping my calories below 2000 for the past two weeks and dosing 100 mcg to 150 mcg of T3 a day, and even then I've only lost 8 lbs so far. I guess that's not a bad thing since I'd rather not lose too much muscle.

    I'm also taking 20 mg Yohimbine a day along with my 200mcg Clen. If that hasn't killed me yet I think I'll be ok.
    WOW! Sounds like quite an accomplishment, albeit a dangerous one. I am sure you met your goals though so well done.

  4. I am about a month out from a serious cut in which I am going to try and keep my size while leaning out with a combination of deficit keto, Ageforce T-2 patch, E/C (allergic to A), and Osta/S4. Cannot wait. No thread jack, just excited.

    Looking fit up there Sturm way to go.

  5. Bro - u look fantastic and did phenomenal. U should be very proud of yourself

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    Quote Originally Posted by Sturmgewehr58 View Post
    Yes, I take 1mg of ketotifen and 50mg diphenhydramine each night. I'm done with the Clen today anyway.



    Yeah, I wouldn't recommend anyone doing what I did.
    But I'd do it all over again anyaway.

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  6. I'm the OP and I'm not running any clen. I'm on Epi and Dermacrine. I was also running Katanadrol but I dropped it. I'm 39, 5' 10", 183#. My body fat is around 11.5-12%. My diet is high protein, low carb (not NO carb), and plenty of healthy fats. I only went into a calorie deficit when I started my Epi cycle. I'm running the Epi to combat muscle loss from the T3. I plan to stop the T3 when I start my PCT, at which time I will run Albertol, which is mildly anabolic as well as anticatabolic, and I will keep my calories in check to watch out for any rebound weight gain caused by my supressed thyroid.


    Quote Originally Posted by pyrobatt View Post
    What's your stats.
    How much are you eating and how long have you went without a surplus of calories? You don't really feel t3 except for the first couple doses. 200 mcgs of clen is asking for trouble. Clen already is catabolic due to the low doses humans can withstand and eats protien. T3 is catabolic at doses of 50 plus mcgs. Starts burning all your carbs and preventing much glycogen storage. Eats your protien and increases calories burned by (good guess for 75 mcgs) 20 to 40. % . Coupled with clen at such high doses and some very weak ph your probably going to experience 1 of 2 things. A Witch is Rapid weight loss which will leave stretch marks depending on your bodyfat % or b if you are in the 10 to 13 % or lower your going to set yourself back 1 to 3 months in the gym due to muscle loss. Rebound weight gain are also commen with clen and t3 . T3 will also suppression your thyroid for a good month or 2 .your gonna get fat again and loose muscle. Drop the clen run @ 15 to 30 mcgs of t3 while doing some metabolic training to combat clen weight gain and then get off of t3 when pct is over so you don't gain as much fat.
    Also your probably eating muscle anyway if you have been in a negitive calorie state for longer than 14 weeks. Your body may be fed up with lipoisis

  7. Quote Originally Posted by warbird01 View Post
    Feels hot. Night sweats. Some people report getting a stimulated feeling, but I have not felt that on 50mcg.
    I've definitely had the night sweats the past 2 nights. It's pretty gross actually.

  8. VERY impressive results! It's hard to believe you're the same person in both those photos!

    Quote Originally Posted by Sturmgewehr58 View Post
    Yes, I take 1mg of ketotifen and 50mg diphenhydramine each night. I'm done with the Clen today anyway.



    Yeah, I wouldn't recommend anyone doing what I did.
    But I'd do it all over again anyaway.

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  9. Quote Originally Posted by greaser View Post
    I've definitely had the night sweats the past 2 nights. It's pretty gross actually.
    Bro, I have been sweating like a mofo. Slept the night at a new girls house last night and when I woke up the spot that I was lying on was soaked! LOL
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  10. Quote Originally Posted by pyrobatt

    What's your stats.
    How much are you eating and how long have you went without a surplus of calories? You don't really feel t3 except for the first couple doses. 200 mcgs of clen is asking for trouble. Clen already is catabolic due to the low doses humans can withstand and eats protien. T3 is catabolic at doses of 50 plus mcgs. Starts burning all your carbs and preventing much glycogen storage. Eats your protien and increases calories burned by (good guess for 75 mcgs) 20 to 40. % . Coupled with clen at such high doses and some very weak ph your probably going to experience 1 of 2 things. A Witch is Rapid weight loss which will leave stretch marks depending on your bodyfat % or b if you are in the 10 to 13 % or lower your going to set yourself back 1 to 3 months in the gym due to muscle loss. Rebound weight gain are also commen with clen and t3 . T3 will also suppression your thyroid for a good month or 2 .your gonna get fat again and loose muscle. Drop the clen run @ 15 to 30 mcgs of t3 while doing some metabolic training to combat clen weight gain and then get off of t3 when pct is over so you don't gain as much fat.
    Also your probably eating muscle anyway if you have been in a negitive calorie state for longer than 14 weeks. Your body may be fed up with lipoisis
    What would you suggest to cut with while on T3? I was just about to run a cycle of T3 and Clen but I could never hit 200mch of Clen. The highest I could get was 90mcg and even then the sides were rediculous then. One suggestion that was made is Osta to avoid your muscles being eaten. Thoughts?

  11. osta is not strong enough for muscle preservation with t3 and clen.Try tren,super drol or something else more potent.The mildest I would go is either a winstrol clone at high doses or hdrol and a winstrol clone.Winstrol holds on to muscle like a mofo.

  12. Quote Originally Posted by pyrobatt View Post
    osta is not strong enough for muscle preservation with t3 and clen.Try tren,super drol or something else more potent.The mildest I would go is either a winstrol clone at high doses or hdrol and a winstrol clone.Winstrol holds on to muscle like a mofo.
    I havent done steroids at all. I'm 6ft and 230 lbs and have a lot of muscle mass. Im not to concerned with loosing too much muscle but if it is drastic I wont do the T3 at all. Im just trying to lean out, and get around 205lbs. At that weight Im a monster. Ive only done Clen one other time and this would be my first cycle with T3. Still learning alot and looking for the best route to take.

  13. Quote Originally Posted by Shrine View Post
    I havent done steroids at all. I'm 6ft and 230 lbs and have a lot of muscle mass. Im not to concerned with loosing too much muscle but if it is drastic I wont do the T3 at all. Im just trying to lean out, and get around 205lbs. At that weight Im a monster. Ive only done Clen one other time and this would be my first cycle with T3. Still learning alot and looking for the best route to take.
    I'm taking 1-AD and 4-AD (androstenedione)

  14. Quote Originally Posted by Sturmgewehr58 View Post
    I'm taking 1-AD and 4-AD (androstenedione)
    Fill me in. I havent heard of these.

  15. Quote Originally Posted by Shrine View Post
    Fill me in. I havent heard of these.
    It's supposed to be a testosterone booster

  16. Quote Originally Posted by Sturmgewehr58 View Post
    It's supposed to be a testosterone booster
    Thats the one on this link right?

  17. Quote Originally Posted by Sturmgewehr58 View Post
    It's supposed to be a testosterone booster
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  18. Quote Originally Posted by Shrine View Post
    One of the sponsors on this site
    Yes, Advanced Muscle Science
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    Shrine -- If you're looking at clen or other fat burners, just steer clear of T3. If you aren't messing around with AAS, there's no real reason to use it, anyway, IMO. There are SO many other smarter, safer ways to cut fat without having to worry about the potential problems, along with the potential to lose muscle.

    I think someone is way better off with something like TTA, raspberry ketones and CLA for a good non-stim fat-burning attack. If you've taken a stim break, toss in the EC stack and boom, good to go. And then once you're down to the last little bit, toss in a topical (and if you really wanna use clen, liquid RC clen can be mixed in with them).

  20. Quote Originally Posted by MidwestBeast
    Shrine -- If you're looking at clen or other fat burners, just steer clear of T3. If you aren't messing around with AAS, there's no real reason to use it, anyway, IMO. There are SO many other smarter, safer ways to cut fat without having to worry about the potential problems, along with the potential to lose muscle.

    I think someone is way better off with something like TTA, raspberry ketones and CLA for a good non-stim fat-burning attack. If you've taken a stim break, toss in the EC stack and boom, good to go. And then once you're down to the last little bit, toss in a topical (and if you really wanna use clen, liquid RC clen can be mixed in with them).
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  21. Quote Originally Posted by Shrine View Post
    What would you suggest to cut with while on T3? I was just about to run a cycle of T3 and Clen but I could never hit 200mch of Clen. The highest I could get was 90mcg and even then the sides were rediculous then. One suggestion that was made is Osta to avoid your muscles being eaten. Thoughts?
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    Quote Originally Posted by MidwestBeast View Post
    Shrine -- If you're looking at clen or other fat burners, just steer clear of T3. If you aren't messing around with AAS, there's no real reason to use it, anyway, IMO. There are SO many other smarter, safer ways to cut fat without having to worry about the potential problems, along with the potential to lose muscle.

    I think someone is way better off with something like TTA, raspberry ketones and CLA for a good non-stim fat-burning attack. If you've taken a stim break, toss in the EC stack and boom, good to go. And then once you're down to the last little bit, toss in a topical (and if you really wanna use clen, liquid RC clen can be mixed in with them).
    Good advice and supps except for CLA. CLA has only been shown to be effective in those who are obese or those who are relatively untrained.
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  22. I'm still on 150mcg a day of T-3. Haven't lost a pound since.
    I'm beginning to wonder what is actually in the stuff I bought.

  23. Quote Originally Posted by Sturmgewehr58
    I'm still on 150mcg a day of T-3. Haven't lost a pound since.
    I'm beginning to wonder what is actually in the stuff I bought.
    150 mcg...where are you getting your doses? In theory its possible you have created a hostile fat burning environment using that dose. Ever wonder why people who almost starve to death don't have ABS? If your eating at a calorie deficit coupled with that high as hell dose then your probably storing fat to survive. You have probably lost muscle. Unless your t3 is bunk.Are you running an Anabolic along side it?
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  24. I'm taking 1-AD and 4-AD with it.

    I've lost some fat. My clothes are a bit looser and I'm down one, almost two holes on my belt. But I went from 190 to 180 in the first two weeks and have been stuck there for five weeks.

    I suppose the 1-AD and 4-AD is such amazing stuff that I've actually built muscle while on it while burning fat, but I'm leery of believing that.

    I've bought some T3 elsewhere and I'm going to use that to taper down.

  25. Quote Originally Posted by MidwestBeast View Post
    Whether it's fake or not, that's a very ill-advised dose.
    agreed, way too high
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  26. I never really noticed being ON T3, maybe a bit warmer.
    If you are asking how to judge its real/good/working then take your temp before starting it then again while taking it, should go up a bit.
    even on AAS like teste/mast or tren i rec not going over 50mcg ed.
    muscle loss is just not worth it.
    I would also not use T3 without aas.
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  27. Quote Originally Posted by greaser View Post
    I'm not sure if this should be in the anabolics section or not, as T3 is a hormone but it is catabolic, not anabolic.

    Anyway, I am currently running Havoc, Katanadrol, and Dermacrine. I added T3 10 days ago. This is pharma T3 (Tiromel) not research stuff. I started at 25mcs a day and bumped up to 50mcs after 3 days. Today is day 10 and I haven't noticed anything, either in terms of fat loss or other symptoms of increased thyroid. I know my doses are on the low side as this is my first time and I'm being cautious. I'm considering bumping up to 75mcs, but I want to make sure that I've given it enough time at 50mcs.

    Any opinions from experienced T3 users?
    You wont necessarily "feel" the T3 working but if you say you got pharma grade (I assume overseas pharm?) than most likely it is legit and is working. I have NEVER "felt" T3 and I have played around with it for quite some time.

    75mcgs is the highest I would recommend

    Quote Originally Posted by Sturmgewehr58 View Post
    I've been taking 100 mcg of T-3 and 200 mcg of Clen a day. I didn't drop a pound until day 16, when I dropped 5lbs overnight.
    I'm at day 24 now and have lost about 8 lbs so far. I'm taking 1-Andro also.
    Careful dosing T3 that high. Around 100-150mcgs T3 can cause psychosis and it is not fun, trust me

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    How are the sides at that dose? Are you able to tell if the weight you've lost is mostly fat?
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  28. Quote Originally Posted by JudoJosh View Post
    You wont necessarily "feel" the T3 working but if you say you got pharma grade (I assume overseas pharm?) than most likely it is legit and is working. I have NEVER "felt" T3 and I have played around with it for quite some time.

    75mcgs is the highest I would recommend
    I agree completely with all of this.
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  29. I'm using liquid T3 from a research chemical site. I'd rather get pharmaceutical grade tablets, but don't have a source for it
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