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  1. Quote Originally Posted by gokix811
    SUN LOG
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    40 min walk

    Good morning A.M.

    So tired today. <-- that's me during my walk this morning
    It's to muggy here to go for walks at the moment
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  2. So is there a reason you fluctuate so much on off days and work out days for eating? Is it that you are that hungry or is it because of the IF and that is how they tell you to do it?
    Sarah
    Starting weight- 4/06- 245 LBS after birth of 2nd child
    Now 151 22.9% BF
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  3. how is the mirror treating you? Your weight is staying the same, are you noticing any changes in the mirror?

  4. Quote Originally Posted by huggy77 View Post
    how is the mirror treating you? Your weight is staying the same, are you noticing any changes in the mirror?
    Which reminds me, it's almost that time to take progress pics again. Will update that in the upcoming weeks. I find that my clothes do fit a little looser, but I'm also seeing more muscle definition in my biceps and forearms. I squat 3x a week and perhaps that's why I don't feel like my quads are slimming down. At the same time my legs do feel a lot stronger. Muscley thighs are not a problem though - it's the fat surrounding them! :P

  5. MON LOG
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    Front squats 1x12 @ 55 lbs
    Box squats 1x12 @ 105 lbs
    Squats 1x12 @90 lbs, 2x12 @ 95 lbs
    RDL 1x12 @ 65 lbs, 2x12 @75lbs
    DL 2x12 @ 85 lbs, 1x12 @ 95
    OP 3x12 @ 33 lbs
    20 min walk @ 10% incline

    Energy: 8/10
    [SOTD]: Ain't No Love - Shine
    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kb2XmWNmAIY

    Coasted through my workout today at 1hr 35 minutes. I was in the zone today! On top of that my lifts are up +5 lbs on squats and I was able to bang +10 on my last set of DL. I'm saving RDL until after I finish DL. That seemed to helped with my grip today.

    DAY 7 OF EC:

    Last day of my first week on EC! Scale has been the same, but I'm hoping once the Yohimbine and Reduce XT arrive that will change things!

    DAY 28 OF IF:

    Shooting for 2400 cals
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  6. Got my Yohimbine and Reduce XT in the mail today! Woo!

  7. TUES LOG
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    40 min walk

    DAY 8 OF EC: Stacked EC with Yohimbine and Reduce XT today and will continue to do so for as long as I run this stack. Feeling the caffeine kick in almost immediately now after 1st dosage. It tapers down after a few hours until my next dosage. Seem to be handling the caffeine OK, but I went ahead and purchased some low dosage aspirin just in case. Still sticking to LISS because I'm a bit paranoid by the thought of doing any type of strenuous cardio while on EC.

    DAY 29 OF IF: Shooting for 1500 calories

  8. i hit the wall at about 1 hour and 15 minutes.... Good for you!

    Quote Originally Posted by gokix811 View Post
    MON LOG
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    Coasted through my workout today at 1hr 35 minutes. I was in the zone today! On top of that my lifts are up +5 lbs on squats and I was able to bang +10 on my last set of DL. I'm saving RDL until after I finish DL. That seemed to helped with my grip today.

  9. Quote Originally Posted by huggy77 View Post
    i hit the wall at about 1 hour and 15 minutes.... Good for you!
    Thanks huggy!

    I try not to check the time until I'm almost done. There's been a few times where I'll get the urge to check and then it's like, I'm only half way done and it's been 60 minutes already?!? lol, Toying with the idea of adding supersets at the end of my workout as well. My cardio days are pretty short ~40 minutes LISS, so it's a give and take.

  10. Quote Originally Posted by gokix811 View Post
    Thanks huggy!

    I try not to check the time until I'm almost done. There's been a few times where I'll get the urge to check and then it's like, I'm only half way done and it's been 60 minutes already?!? lol, Toying with the idea of adding supersets at the end of my workout as well. My cardio days are pretty short ~40 minutes LISS, so it's a give and take.

    i really enjoy fasted cardio - low impact stuff.. i wear a heart rate monitor to make sure i am going at a super slow rate.... I know its bro science but i think the carb deplete from the low impact stuff works well with lean gains... I will go for an hour walk at like 6am and not break my fast till about 2pm (gym days) and later on gym days....

    i know the rules for women are different though....

  11. are you feeling leaner... how do you actually feel?

    I love the feeling coming out of the fast...

  12. Quote Originally Posted by huggy77 View Post
    i really enjoy fasted cardio - low impact stuff.. i wear a heart rate monitor to make sure i am going at a super slow rate.... I know its bro science but i think the carb deplete from the low impact stuff works well with lean gains... I will go for an hour walk at like 6am and not break my fast till about 2pm (gym days) and later on gym days....

    i know the rules for women are different though....
    Quote Originally Posted by huggy77 View Post
    are you feeling leaner... how do you actually feel?

    I love the feeling coming out of the fast...
    It's that little extra, and I think it does feel like it makes a difference at the end of a workout. Wish I was a morning person, but I'm not. It'd be nice to get an extra session in the morning.

    It's weird - training fasted I mean. There's no food energy, yet I have had some of my best workouts fasted. Other times it's laborious. It really varies daily. Then again I never used to take a pre-wo until I started EC, and that was more for overall fat loss than the caffeine kick.

    What rules for women? I do feel leaner/stronger in my legs - quads and calves. That feeling when you're walking and realize there is space between your thighs? Yeah, that. lol But, I'd still really like to see that scale go down!

  13. Quote Originally Posted by gokix811 View Post
    It's that little extra, and I think it does feel like it makes a difference at the end of a workout. Wish I was a morning person, but I'm not. It'd be nice to get an extra session in the morning.

    It's weird - training fasted I mean. There's no food energy, yet I have had some of my best workouts fasted. Other times it's laborious. It really varies daily. Then again I never used to take a pre-wo until I started EC, and that was more for overall fat loss than the caffeine kick.

    What rules for women? I do feel leaner/stronger in my legs - quads and calves. That feeling when you're walking and realize there is space between your thighs? Yeah, that. lol But, I'd still really like to see that scale go down!
    as far as training fasted i am pretty sure there is some natural GH increase towards the end of the fast and your body should have some stored energy from not eating, digesting, etc...

    rules for women: on lean gains they recommend a shorter fasted period...

  14. Quote Originally Posted by huggy77 View Post
    as far as training fasted i am pretty sure there is some natural GH increase towards the end of the fast and your body should have some stored energy from not eating, digesting, etc...

    rules for women: on lean gains they recommend a shorter fasted period...
    Ah gotcha 14/10 if I remember correctly. My feeding window is never that long. My off days are ~ 16/8, but my on days are even shorter ~ 18/6.

  15. WED LOG
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    Front Squat 1x12 @ 60lbs
    Box Squat 1x12 @ 100 lbs
    Squats 3x12 @ 90 lbs
    Bench 1x12 @ 45 lbs, 2x12 @50lbs
    BBR 3x12 @ 52 lbs
    Superset 3x10 @ 12 lbs - Reverse Fly, DB Rows, Barbell Pullovers (20 lbs)

    Energy: 3/10
    [SOTD]: Above & beyond - sun & moon
    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EIsqQb-aYKg

    Not my best workout! Today I felt annoyed/angry, like I wanted to rage on someone and I don't know why. It shifted between feeling lethargic and very short bursts of energy. Also had thee worst caffeine crash around noon. When I got home I tried to nap it away, but my mood has just been off today. I'm guessing it's due to lack of sleep + side effects of caffeine. I was dizzy after barbell rows and that set the tone for the rest of my workout. Saved squats for last, and that wasn't great either - felt so weak. I was pushing hard to finish my 3rd set of squats and after I racked the bar my heart started beating sooo fast. Had to stop and catch my breath. A bit worrisome because that hasn't happened before, at least not during my workout! Taking an aspirin; my chest feels heavy.

    DAY 9 OF EC: Felt like crap after my 2nd dosage. EC usually suppresses my appetite but I've been ravenous today! I think today is one of those days where eating something pre-wo would have been helpful.

    DAY 30 OF IF: Shooting for 2300 cals

  16. Do you think it might be your new supplement ?? Maybe something is not playing nice with the others?

  17. I'm all for supplements, but it sounds like you're having more negative side effects than positive. If your diet and cardio are on key, you will be good. I skimmed through your thread, are you doing fasted cardio in the morning? Are you doing any cardio post workout? Are you taking in most of your calories during your post workout window? I just think there are other factors affecting your weight loss and lowering the effectiveness of the EC stack.

  18. Quote Originally Posted by mk3less View Post
    Do you think it might be your new supplement ?? Maybe something is not playing nice with the others?
    It's a possibility; that and I don't get very much sleep. Once I get food in my system I'm fine though. I'm pretty cranky before then. lol

    Quote Originally Posted by grippo View Post
    I'm all for supplements, but it sounds like you're having more negative side effects than positive. If your diet and cardio are on key, you will be good. I skimmed through your thread, are you doing fasted cardio in the morning? Are you doing any cardio post workout? Are you taking in most of your calories during your post workout window? I just think there are other factors affecting your weight loss and lowering the effectiveness of the EC stack.
    It took some time for me to adjust to IF, a few weeks actually, and in the beginning I had days where I was getting chronic headaches. I think the same thing is happening with EC. The first half of the week went okay; the rest of the first week was fine. Now I'm on Day 2 of the 2nd week and I've increased the dosage, so I'm thinking my body is having to readjust to that. Could also be that I'm more sensitive to stims than I thought.

    No fasted morning cardio, because that would cut into my resting time and I don't get very much as is. As far as post workout cardio, it really depends on how I'm feeling that day. Some days I will try to add in a 20 minute incline walk on the treadmill. All my calories are post workout and my feeding window on workout days ~ 4 pm - 11 pm.

  19. Just an update:

    Felt very short of breath all last night and into this morning. Skipping my a.m. dosage. and possibly the rest of the day. I followed the dosage chart, but since I'm unaccustomed to stims, perhaps I tried to build the tolerance too quickly. I will start lowering my dosages again tomorrow. Or maybe replace a caffeine pill with coffee instead.


  20. Quote Originally Posted by gokix811 View Post
    Just an update:

    Felt very short of breath all last night and into this morning. Skipping my a.m. dosage. and possibly the rest of the day. I followed the dosage chart, but since I'm unaccustomed to stims, perhaps I tried to build the tolerance too quickly. I will start lowering my dosages again tomorrow. Or maybe replace a caffeine pill with coffee instead.

    pls be careful. You will do great w/out the stims if you keep up with the exercise and IF implementation.

  21. Quote Originally Posted by huggy77 View Post
    pls be careful. You will do great w/out the stims if you keep up with the exercise and IF implementation.
    Thanks for your concern, huggy.

    The reason I started the fat burner stack was because prior to this I was making good progress. For the past 2 months I've stalled, and no matter what I did the fat would not budge. I'm starting to realize there is no 'one fits all' protocol when it comes to these things (including leangains), and I should listen to my body when it's telling me to take it down a notch. I'm not going to take EC just for the sake of doing it. I can feel the EC working, and I'd like to see how the rest of the week unfolds. Like I said, I will taper down on the dosages and maybe substitute coffee for caffeine, because coffee hasn't given me any type of negative side effects. I will find a way around.

  22. Quote Originally Posted by gokix811 View Post
    Thanks for your concern, huggy.

    The reason I started the fat burner stack was because prior to this I was making good progress. For the past 2 months I've stalled, and no matter what I did the fat would not budge. I'm starting to realize there is no 'one fits all' protocol when it comes to these things (including leangains), and I should listen to my body when it's telling me to take it down a notch. I'm not going to take EC just for the sake of doing it. I can feel the EC working, and I'd like to see how the rest of the week unfolds. Like I said, I will taper down on the dosages and maybe substitute coffee for caffeine, because coffee hasn't given me any type of negative side effects. I will find a way around.
    i dont train fasted myself... I will do light cardio to deplete in the am (empty stomach)...

    Perhaps spend the next couple of days tweaking things so you can enjoy your training... For me, ideally i get a bowl of oatmeal and a protein shake about 2 hours before i touch the weights. So that means i wait till 4 pm to open my fast and then continue to eat for the next 6 hours. when i get the oatmeal 2 hours before weights i feel amazing.

  23. Quote Originally Posted by huggy77 View Post
    i dont train fasted myself... I will do light cardio to deplete in the am (empty stomach)...

    Perhaps spend the next couple of days tweaking things so you can enjoy your training... For me, ideally i get a bowl of oatmeal and a protein shake about 2 hours before i touch the weights. So that means i wait till 4 pm to open my fast and then continue to eat for the next 6 hours. when i get the oatmeal 2 hours before weights i feel amazing.
    I used to eat a pre-wo snack too, around noon-ish. Something like a banana on whole wheat toast or greek yogurt with granola. But I read how advantageous working out fasted was so I've subscribed to that theory. You're right - a pre-wo snack does give a nice boost to workouts. I may go back to that.

  24. Quote Originally Posted by gokix811 View Post
    I used to eat a pre-wo snack too, around noon-ish. Something like a banana on whole wheat toast or greek yogurt with granola. But I read how advantageous working out fasted was so I've subscribed to that theory. You're right - a pre-wo snack does give a nice boost to workouts. I may go back to that.
    Its important to enjoy your workout. That is time you spend on yourself.

    I need the pump... I blow up like a tick during training and i love it....

    I do oatmeal 2 hours pre, pre workout stim on the ride in (C4 atm). Once the workout starts i am sipping on gatorade and aminos. Grab a whey/carb drink post workout.

    non training days are grilled chicken ceasars, veggie chicken stir fry (no rice), natty peanut butter and casein powder..

    Weekends are when i train heavy, and i just eat free during my windows (i avoid junkfood).

    i have been dumping at least a pound a week doing that for the past 2 months...

  25. Maybe stims are not for you. You should probably stop them all together and see if you feel any better.

  26. Quote Originally Posted by huggy77 View Post
    Its important to enjoy your workout. That is time you spend on yourself.

    I need the pump... I blow up like a tick during training and i love it....

    I do oatmeal 2 hours pre, pre workout stim on the ride in (C4 atm). Once the workout starts i am sipping on gatorade and aminos. Grab a whey/carb drink post workout.

    non training days are grilled chicken ceasars, veggie chicken stir fry (no rice), natty peanut butter and casein powder..

    Weekends are when i train heavy, and i just eat free during my windows (i avoid junkfood).

    i have been dumping at least a pound a week doing that for the past 2 months...
    You make a solid point there. I hate missing a workout too - I feel like I've given up on myself when I do. To fall off the rocker is one thing, to get back on is what matters. And seeing #'s go down is definitely great motivation - great job!

    Quote Originally Posted by mk3less View Post
    Maybe stims are not for you. You should probably stop them all together and see if you feel any better.
    I skipped my a.m. dosage today and I thought I was going to crash, but actually the opposite happened; I felt fine - mentally and physically. If it does get to the point where it's continually making me feel like a panting dog, even on low dosage, then I will omit it from my regime.

  27. Quote Originally Posted by gokix811
    Just an update:

    Felt very short of breath all last night and into this morning. Skipping my a.m. dosage. and possibly the rest of the day. I followed the dosage chart, but since I'm unaccustomed to stims, perhaps I tried to build the tolerance too quickly. I will start lowering my dosages again tomorrow. Or maybe replace a caffeine pill with coffee instead.

    Goki,

    I think you're trying to go too hard to fast. You went from traditional workouts to IF, and then you became a bit impatient. Now you're using stims and they seem to be having adverse effects. You gotta ease into things more slowly. You should drop your doses and start with the bare minimum if you feel like you HAVE to use stims. Just remember a bulk of your results are made in the kitchen. No amount of stims or stacks are going to get you there. So please don't push yourself too hard or else you might end up doing more harm than good.

  28. Quote Originally Posted by gokix811

    Thanks for your concern, huggy.

    The reason I started the fat burner stack was because prior to this I was making good progress. For the past 2 months I've stalled, and no matter what I did the fat would not budge. I'm starting to realize there is no 'one fits all' protocol when it comes to these things (including leangains), and I should listen to my body when it's telling me to take it down a notch. I'm not going to take EC just for the sake of doing it. I can feel the EC working, and I'd like to see how the rest of the week unfolds. Like I said, I will taper down on the dosages and maybe substitute coffee for caffeine, because coffee hasn't given me any type of negative side effects. I will find a way around.
    In response to this...don't be impatient. if you're doing things right results will follow. You're body hates change and will fight hard for stability. During cuts we all have a moment were results stall for a bit. Eventually it picks right back up. When I dropped from 15%bf to 10% it stalled like that for a while. Then it picked up and dropped to 7%.

    Are you sure you're results are stalled? Do you know how to test for body fat? Body weight on a scale isn't very reliable. Just be patient fat is stubborn and likes to take it's sweet time melt.

  29. Hey girl, hope all is going well. Sounds like you have things under control. Keep up the great work!

    I started working out fasted about a month ago. I'm actually enjoying it a lot!
    Journal - http://anabolicminds.com/forum/female-fitness/199622-here-we-go.html#post3349653

  30. Quote Originally Posted by Hajiroku View Post
    Goki,

    I think you're trying to go too hard to fast. You went from traditional workouts to IF, and then you became a bit impatient. Now you're using stims and they seem to be having adverse effects. You gotta ease into things more slowly. You should drop your doses and start with the bare minimum if you feel like you HAVE to use stims. Just remember a bulk of your results are made in the kitchen. No amount of stims or stacks are going to get you there. So please don't push yourself too hard or else you might end up doing more harm than good.
    I plan to drop the dosage to a minimum, like I was dosing last week. I count my kcals daily, almost obsessively, and make sure I meet my macros for protein. Carbs are kept low on non-workout days and higher on workout days. Fats could be higher - I'm working on that.

    Quote Originally Posted by Hajiroku View Post
    In response to this...don't be impatient. if you're doing things right results will follow. You're body hates change and will fight hard for stability. During cuts we all have a moment were results stall for a bit. Eventually it picks right back up. When I dropped from 15%bf to 10% it stalled like that for a while. Then it picked up and dropped to 7%.

    Are you sure you're results are stalled? Do you know how to test for body fat? Body weight on a scale isn't very reliable. Just be patient fat is stubborn and likes to take it's sweet time melt.
    Haha I admit I can be impatient at times! Especially when others are seeing faster results in the same amount of time. I realize it took years to put on, and it's going to take time to lose it. re: body fighting change; acording to the scale, I've dropped ~16 lbs in 6 months, so it's a slow, steady weight loss. That's ~2.6 lbs a month! I've been using my clothes and mirror to gauge my results. I don't know how to test bf% accurately.
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