Kleen Crashes Head first into fat loss using Lyle McDonald's Rapid Fat Loss Handbook.

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[Rosie Chee]

You know I'm watching, Chris Got a copy of the book to read through as well, since it looks interesting.

~Rosie~

[MrKleen73]

In this one for sure man. Hope it works out well.

Thanks Brother

Good Luck brotha! SUbbed in!

Grunt! Nice to have ya in here man.

i'm pondering a hard crash diet as well for myself, as I want to be looking better for the Arnold

Love it! Yeah I have just gotten fed up and need something intense and challenging to get my mind back into the "Go Mode" instead of the cruise mode.

Really interested in how this goes for you Kleen! Subbed brother!

Me too it is always nice to start something different and exciting.

I have always wondered about such a thing. Good luck and I will be following!

Yeah, I have read a few and like what he has to say about protein sparing and what not.

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Welcome!

You know I'm watching, Chris Got a copy of the book to read through as well, since it looks interesting.

~Rosie~

Good stuff, it is not a long read at all. From what I can tell it is as sound of a crash diet approach as I have ever seen.

[ScottyDoc]

Late, but SUB'd!!

[Onlychevy6]

So how was your first day training with the new diet. Mine was ok definetily could tell I was carb depleted. lol

[Rosie Chee]

Good stuff, it is not a long read at all. From what I can tell it is as sound of a crash diet approach as I have ever seen.

Yeah, I read it during the rare quiet and unbusy time at work this morning. Was definitely interesting. I'm tempted to give it a shot, if only for a couple of weeks, before the refeed (since I'd be Category 1), if the last couple of weeks had not shown me that "dieting" does nothing for my body, going backwards or making minimal progress, only to go backwards again. But, considering it, as I start back on all my staples tomorrow, and they have been missing since my injuries in December.

~Rosie~

[Onlychevy6]

Yeah, I read it during the rare quiet and unbusy time at work this morning. Was definitely interesting. I'm tempted to give it a shot, if only for a couple of weeks, before the refeed (since I'd be Category 1), if the last couple of weeks had not shown me that "dieting" does nothing for my body, going backwards or making minimal progress, only to go backwards again. But, considering it, as I start back on all my staples tomorrow, and they have been missing since my injuries in December.

~Rosie~

Go for it Rosie. I am doing it as well I am using the Category 3 even though I am almost in the Category 2.

[mattrag]

For the PSMF he suggests to do no exercise right? Or at most 30-45 minute SS cardio? I read it A LONG time ago. But yea it should work. I have done a diet similar to that and it worked... granted I was still not even as lean as I am now eating 3k+ cals a day working out only 3x a week with no cardio.... But I'm a lot smarter with food choices.

[mkretz]

really interested to see hwo this go, i relaly liek teh set up, good luck!

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Good luck w/ this, Kleen!!! Gonna have to chech this book out!!

[MuscleGauge1]

Man this is tough! Wow...You really are going to be using a lot of tupperware for this one. Prepare all of your meals in ADVANCE and just carry a fork or spoon in your bag! :-)

[Rosie Chee]

Go for it Rosie. I am doing it as well I am using the Category 3 even though I am almost in the Category 2.

Thinking about it, Jeff. Not sure about the lack of carbohydrates though, since my body has shown me over and over again that it makes the BEST progress when I'm having >400 grams of them a day. Even 100 grams a day is getting a little low for me. But, I can always give two weeks a shot and see how it goes. Maybe from next week. If I do, I'll be sure to log it - have a new log up now, for weekly updates.

For the PSMF he suggests to do no exercise right? Or at most 30-45 minute SS cardio? I read it A LONG time ago. But yea it should work. I have done a diet similar to that and it worked... granted I was still not even as lean as I am now eating 3k+ cals a day working out only 3x a week with no cardio.... But I'm a lot smarter with food choices.

Yeah, he does. If I did it, I'd be doing my Maintenance training though. Nothing less.

~Rosie~

[JudoJosh]

Tear it up kleen

[DreamWeaver]

Welcome back Chris!!

[MrKleen73]

Late, but SUB'd!!

Welcome Al!

So how was your first day training with the new diet. Mine was ok definetily could tell I was carb depleted. lol

Day one was not too bad. 12 ox chicken, 15 spears of asparugus, 1 cup cottage cheese for fast breaker and 12 oz pork loin 1 cup of cottage cheese, 1 cup green beans for dinner.

Yeah, I read it during the rare quiet and unbusy time at work this morning. Was definitely interesting. I'm tempted to give it a shot, if only for a couple of weeks, before the refeed (since I'd be Category 1), if the last couple of weeks had not shown me that "dieting" does nothing for my body, going backwards or making minimal progress, only to go backwards again. But, considering it, as I start back on all my staples tomorrow, and they have been missing since my injuries in December.

~Rosie~

Could be a fun experiment regardless. I have a feeling that for you and I this will work pretty nicely as a boost back into an area we are more comfortable with our physiques. In our scenario I actually like the idea of the low carbs with the carb load at the end then moving directly into a maintenance level for our new weight. This will allow a tiny bit of any muscle that may be lost to come back during the 2 week maintenance period before we would start to slowly work towards cutting again.

really interested to see hwo this go, i relaly liek teh set up, good luck!

I can't even imagine you needing to diet but I am happy you are following along.

Good luck w/ this, Kleen!!! Gonna have to chech this book out!!

Definitely, it is a good read and Lyle doesn't put out ****e. I have seen many others do something very similar to this. The Velocity Diet over at T-Nation is actually kind of a liquid form of this diet but they do have carbs postworkout with that one however very similar caloric intake and protein requirements.

Man this is tough! Wow...You really are going to be using a lot of tupperware for this one. Prepare all of your meals in ADVANCE and just carry a fork or spoon in your bag! :-)

Actually no with me doing Intermittent Fasting it is really only 2 meals or 2 meals and a shake. So not much needed in the way of tupperware.

Thinking about it, Jeff. Not sure about the lack of carbohydrates though, since my body has shown me over and over again that it makes the BEST progress when I'm having >400 grams of them a day. Even 100 grams a day is getting a little low for me. But, I can always give two weeks a shot and see how it goes. Maybe from next week. If I do, I'll be sure to log it - have a new log up now, for weekly updates.




Yeah, he does. If I did it, I'd be doing my Maintenance training though. Nothing less.

~Rosie~

Yeah Rosie, like I said a little above that I think as an 11 day shock to the system this may be amazing for the fat loss. I know performance will be down for sure but I am doing this for pure aesthetic reasons.

Tear it up kleen

Will do!

[MrKleen73]

[BoneDaddy]

Does this diet allow any wiggle room for supps such as ursobolic acid?

[JudoJosh]

I tried McDonalds PSMF variation a couple months back and was happy with it. I also combined it with IF timing as it just made sense to with such little calories. Most days were 20 hours fasting with 4 hour eating windows. I also added in Alpha T2 and ECA.

[JudoJosh]

Does this diet allow any wiggle room for supps such as ursobolic acid?

Cant see why not but I really doubt it would make a real noticeable difference weight loss wise considering the already huge caloric deficit you will already be in. The only supplement I would consider adding in during a PSMF diet would be something that could help increase SNS output since this will take the buggest hit during a extreme calorie deficit diet. This is why ECA compliments the diet perfectly

[ScottyDoc]

Yo Tubby, you are pushing out, LoL, but I do the same thing to get the fattest before picture possible! Kind of like on that movie "Bigger, Faster, Stronger" when they did the before and after pictures on the same day and he was telling him, think negative fat thoughts, LoL, then they shaved him down and spray tanned him and computer generated some abdominal shadowing, crazy the $hit they do!!!

On a different note, Chris I am like 1-2% behind ya brother, so we are right there, I'm starting my mega-cut get ripped phase in about 1-2wks. We both know you can do it, just set your mind to it and you will like what you see in the mirror in a matter of just a few weeks! Oh and as far as Pool Season is concerned... "Forget about it, Joey Butafuko ova hea!" you'll be shredded by then!!!