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  1. Hmm, heavy metal toxicity, very probable. Drinking out of copper pipes, hell even floride has been linked to competing with iodine on the thyroid receptors. Be interesting to look into
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    Quote Originally Posted by mattrag View Post
    Hmm, heavy metal toxicity, very probable. Drinking out of copper pipes, hell even floride has been linked to competing with iodine on the thyroid receptors. Be interesting to look into
    Hopefully the doc will sign off on the tests I've requested and if that's it, that would be fantastic, but looking at an overall heavy metal toxicity test is something I wouldn't rule out. I went kind of nuts, today, and started getting rid of all my plastic tupperware and cups. I usually drink out of a plastic 1 liter Aleutian bottle all day at work (4-6 times), but I switched over to a glass. I'll be purchasing a filter for my kitchen sink, soon, too. I drink ~2 gallons of tap water on a daily basis, I eat a ton of canned tuna and chicken (have over the years), so there are just too many possibilities.
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  3. Look into BPA free bottles. Gets rid of exnoestrogens(sp?)
    Also, tin foods can be problematic...
    Dr mercola has stuff on his site about this topic
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  4. Quote Originally Posted by mattrag View Post
    Hmm, heavy metal toxicity, very probable. Drinking out of copper pipes, hell even floride has been linked to competing with iodine on the thyroid receptors. Be interesting to look into

    i would think that unless you were doing something out of the ordinary, that wouldnt be much of a concern to the average person. Otherwise we would see a lot more people with thyroid problems....but then again maybe there are and they just dont know it?
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    Quote Originally Posted by RickRock13 View Post
    i would think that unless you were doing something out of the ordinary, that wouldnt be much of a concern to the average person. Otherwise we would see a lot more people with thyroid problems....but then again maybe there are and they just dont know it?
    Well, when you look at how many people are obese in our country, it isn't that far of a stretch. I'm not saying it's heavy metals or thyroid problems; but just something. I'm pretty sure I've had thyroid problems for a very long time. However, I think something else just kicked in in the past year or so. I used to be able to lose weight, even though it was far harder than it should have been, but then I hit that wall where it flat out didn't matter what I did.

    So for my case, it very well could be thyroid problems that were complicated when copper started screwing with levels (I'd previously tried adding in iodine to help, but it didn't). It very well may not be copper, but if it was, it would make sense.
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  6. I still think you should go get your genome mapped......maybe you have something going on at that level....maybe you should have a conversation with a specialist...couldn't hurt

  7. I mean this with a lot of respect and don't want this to come across in any other way.

    We have a lot of people here with knowledge that it is easy for us to make suggestions. How many of us are experts at the stuff being suggested? I appreciate when someone is stuck trying to come up with ideas is as helpful as can be. It is also damaging because it becomes a game pin the tail on the donkey.

    Everyone here is being helpful, it is great to see. I just don't want 100 ideas thrown at MWB and watch him spend thousands without result. I know someone who has done the same.

    - You could have heavy metal toxicity, loads of people have it, I have had mine tested and there were high readings but I was not tested because I suspected anything. Heavy metal toxicity and thyroid problems can be associated.
    - You could have adrenal issues
    - You could have high xenoestrogen levels
    - You could have gene mutations. A lot has been written about the MTHFR gene with an easy asparagus test to identify whether you have mutations in it


    How many of these things, if tested to be high would reverse the problem if he sorted it and how many are secondary? For example, when I paid for tests to be done I had extremely high levels of arsenic, I have extremely high cortisol levels, I had dysbiosis, pathogens, vitamin and mineral deficiencies etc.

    Blake could test something, say "hey, I have high levels of mercury from my fillings, maybe that contributes to my thyroid issue (very plausible)" then he pays hundreds to thousands of dollars getting them removed and going on a heavy metal detoxification programme. He could buy an infra-red sauna to detoxify suspected plastics. He could never touch a BPA containing receipt again, buy water filters for the entire house so no chlorine, metals or contaminants enter his water supply and are absorbed transdermally or orally, he could do a LEAP test and find 75 food intolerances and 3 severe allergies causing an immunological response resulting in raised cortisol, he could pay thousands of dollars to get his genomics results to find certain gene mutations and issues and he could still have the same issue that he started with, "mysterious weight gain".

    I am all for these tests. I just want to make sure that we are a help, not a hindrance. There are things I could have added to this thread from the beginning but I don't want to say "maybe it is this?" because without any assessing, we are just having guesses, which adds to confusion and potentially makes this a longer process.

    All I am saying is, before you remortgage your house to pay for all of this testing, please do it in an educated manner as possible. Let's maybe discuss issues first without blind suggestion. We all want this resolved.

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  8. Quote Originally Posted by bdcc View Post
    I mean this with a lot of respect and don't want this to come across in any other way.

    We have a lot of people here with knowledge that it is easy for us to make suggestions. How many of us are experts at the stuff being suggested? I appreciate when someone is stuck trying to come up with ideas is as helpful as can be. It is also damaging because it becomes a game pin the tail on the donkey.

    Everyone here is being helpful, it is great to see. I just don't want 100 ideas thrown at MWB and watch him spend thousands without result. I know someone who has done the same.

    - You could have heavy metal toxicity, loads of people have it, I have had mine tested and there were high readings but I was not tested because I suspected anything. Heavy metal toxicity and thyroid problems can be associated.
    - You could have adrenal issues
    - You could have high xenoestrogen levels
    - You could have gene mutations. A lot has been written about the MTHFR gene with an easy asparagus test to identify whether you have mutations in it


    How many of these things, if tested to be high would reverse the problem if he sorted it and how many are secondary? For example, when I paid for tests to be done I had extremely high levels of arsenic, I have extremely high cortisol levels, I had dysbiosis, pathogens, vitamin and mineral deficiencies etc.

    Blake could test something, say "hey, I have high levels of mercury from my fillings, maybe that contributes to my thyroid issue (very plausible)" then he pays hundreds to thousands of dollars getting them removed and going on a heavy metal detoxification programme. He could buy an infra-red sauna to detoxify suspected plastics. He could never touch a BPA containing receipt again, buy water filters for the entire house so no chlorine, metals or contaminants enter his water supply and are absorbed transdermally or orally, he could do a LEAP test and find 75 food intolerances and 3 severe allergies causing an immunological response resulting in raised cortisol, he could pay thousands of dollars to get his genomics results to find certain gene mutations and issues and he could still have the same issue that he started with, "mysterious weight gain".

    I am all for these tests. I just want to make sure that we are a help, not a hindrance. There are things I could have added to this thread from the beginning but I don't want to say "maybe it is this?" because without any assessing, we are just having guesses, which adds to confusion and potentially makes this a longer process.

    All I am saying is, before you remortgage your house to pay for all of this testing, please do it in an educated manner as possible. Let's maybe discuss issues first without blind suggestion. We all want this resolved.

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    very true, but i think MWB just is putting it out there for everyone as well to perhaps look to any and all problems. totally get how we can be steering him on an endless path to health, but sometimes we have to explore all regions of the problem to get an answer.
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  9. I agree. I know he is looking for support. I am just encouraging that people ensure their suggestions are helpful, some of the stuff being suggested is extremely expensive to test for and may not solve his main purpose.
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    I certainly appreciate all of your concerns and all of your suggestions/input, as well. I've talked with Ben outside of AM about this a bit and I'll just share it here, as well.

    I'm hopeful that I'll be moving within the next few months to a job back near my hometown and all of my family. Given that, I'm not trying that hard to find a new doctor or a specialist down here. My experience with doctors this entire time is that they'll agree with me, sign off on tests, etc., but show no concern about my weight gain. I suppose since I can still walk on my own, don't require oxygen and I can still fit in "regular" sized clothing, they don't see what I'm going through as anything serious. Since that has been the environment and attitude thus far, I've learned to do as much research as I can on my own and as long as the doctor signs off on my blood work and insurance will cover it, then that's what I'll keep doing.

    Whenever I move, I will immediately seek out a high quality doctor and/or specialist who actually will spend the time to see to it that we address this.

    Until then, I'm just doing what I can on my own and ruling things out. Hopefully I'll hear back soon about the copper/minerals testing and can get that done. The funny thing about that is as I request more and more blood work, he hasn't requested to see me, again. I know if I was a doctor, I'd probably be thinking, "why the heck is this guy doing this and this; I need to get him in here to discuss this."

  11. Quote Originally Posted by bdcc View Post
    I agree. I know he is looking for support. I am just encouraging that people ensure their suggestions are helpful, some of the stuff being suggested is extremely expensive to test for and may not solve his main purpose.
    Yea... I know it can be frustrating MWB. Id honestly try seeing those chinese docs. I assume they are on the cheaper side. See what they say. Many of those who have made amazing come backs from downs in their lives have said that these docs have helped them correct imbalances etc.

    Robb Wolf, Chris Kresser.. and Im sure a lot more online have gone to a functional medical practitioner and found answers that helped them reach their goals. Im not telling you to visit one. Just see how much it would cost to visit one, if its in your price range then re evaluate and see where to go from there. This is the "natural" way of going about it, Id think it'd be cheaper, last longer, and involve less complications and tests.

    Good luck man, here to learn from you and everyone else. Thanks for posting this stuff dude, its a real struggle and takes real courage to post those pics and the test results and share with us your story.
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  12. Well if we could just combine our problems we could both find a happy medium! I eat til I drop and seem to lose a pound! Good luck man my problem has always been the opposite of yours. Hope these doctor's can give you some type of closure!
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    Just an update:

    I scheduled a follow-up with my doc on Monday just to discuss some things and pick his brain as to what he personally thought may be at bay. He suggested labs to check prolactin and growth hormone. He felt that if those came back normal it would "effectively" rule out the pituitary as a culprit (based on everything else I'd had tested) and if that were the case, he recommended meeting with a specialist at Vanderbilt or possibly UK for a second opinion.

    Well, prolactin just came back high out of range and he recommends a brain MRI. Their office is in the process of setting that up and getting back to me.

    What was odd was that the blood test checked "human growth hormone" and it came back at 0.04 (ref range: 0.01 - 3.61, or something really close to that). That seems very strange as in January I had IGF-1 checked and it was something like 139 or 159 with the max range being ~170 (it's posted in my labs, but I'm not gonna go dig it up atm).

    Anyway, just an update for anyone who was curious or for anyone else who may be suffering a miserable sentence like me, lol.

  14. Thx for the update!!

    Man it's looking worse but getting closer!
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    Just had a brain MRI this evening; specifically a dynamic MRI that looked at the pituitary (what that means is that I was hooked up to an IV, too, and there was a 4 second window to get an image, for part of it, after the contrast injection).

    Anyway, I stuck around after to speak with the radiologist and there were no tumors or anything out of the ordinary. In the big picture, that's great news. In regards to this, it leaves me back at the drawing board.

  16. Good to hear it came up clean!
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  17. Quote Originally Posted by MidwestBeast View Post
    Just had a brain MRI this evening; specifically a dynamic MRI that looked at the pituitary (what that means is that I was hooked up to an IV, too, and there was a 4 second window to get an image, for part of it, after the contrast injection).

    Anyway, I stuck around after to speak with the radiologist and there were no tumors or anything out of the ordinary. In the big picture, that's great news. In regards to this, it leaves me back at the drawing board.
    Well at least you know you dont have a tumor.
    Always a plus. Man though it is odd that you are having such mean problems. Maybe you are just going through early andropause?
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  18. I still say map the genome....
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    Quote Originally Posted by LiveToLift View Post
    Good to hear it came up clean!
    Thanks, man.

    Quote Originally Posted by mattrag View Post
    Well at least you know you dont have a tumor.
    Always a plus. Man though it is odd that you are having such mean problems. Maybe you are just going through early andropause?
    Oddly enough, I was praying for a tumor the whole time I was having the MRI done. How messed up is that? When I say tumor, I'm referring to a small tumor on the pituitary; not a golf-ball sized one smack-dab in the middle of my brain. I know you don't really "hope" for a tumor, but it would have been an answer to all of this; it just leaves me wondering, again. And I've never studied andropause to really know what it is.

    Quote Originally Posted by TheDarkHalf View Post
    I still say map the genome....
    You're probably already on vacation, but I repped/pm'ed you to ask if you had any info on this. I'm meeting with a new doc (guy who lifts at my gym) next week. I'm trying to rule more stuff out/find the answer lol.

  20. Andro pause is just low the slowing down of our HTPA. Like menapause (sp) for women.

    Just basically TRT therapy to get you bumped back up. Or maybe some DHEA/Preg?
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    Quote Originally Posted by mattrag View Post
    Andro pause is just low the slowing down of our HTPA. Like menapause (sp) for women.

    Just basically TRT therapy to get you bumped back up. Or maybe some DHEA/Preg?
    I'm pretty sure it's something different than that. Back in January (first blood labs), my test/estrogen were in good order (test wasn't AS high as I'd like, but still well within normal range) and my libido still feels like I'm a teenager most of the time. Between that and my use of exogenous thyroid hormone, that shouldn't be an issue.

    My top thoughts (as far of a stretch as they may be) at the moment are:

    - heavy metals and/or xeno-estrogens working at a cellular level (I drink tons of water, so it could be from tap water/pipes and/or all the canned tuna/chicken I've eaten over the years, plastic I always used to drink out of until a month or so ago, etc.).

    - some type of food allergy/reaction (though this is a stretch for me, because I don't see that keeping me from losing weight; plus, it would be odd that it kicked in just a year and a half ago)

    - something still just hindering the conversion of thyroid hormone (I don't know what it would be though, based on everything I've had tested)

    - something happening at a cellular level (maybe related to other aspects already mentioned) that is triggering fat cells to grow or be targeted (I know how crazy that sounds, but I'm running out of ideas lol)

    - I've always had issues with stomach cramps in my lower abdomen; perhaps something happening where waste isn't properly being removed from my body, spilling over (I'm aware of how ridiculous that one sounds, but when I was in high school I went over a full week, while on vacation, without having a bowel movement -- purposely holding it because of a hatred/fear of public toilets, and also for more than a weekend while gone, too. Both times, I ate a lot and when I did have the first bowel movement afterward, it wasn't anything more than normal; doesn't make sense, although I've never heard of that being an issue or problem)

  22. I have similar problem I believe I have some sleep issue I wake up at mornings sore.... Also I hate this part if I eat enough for muscle I get fat if i drop my cals first thing happened I loss muscle loll FML I will try sprinting soon but I have for a long time believe thyroid and sleep very issues I also abused stims a lot too
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  23. Quote Originally Posted by Jasen View Post
    I have similar problem I believe I have some sleep issue I wake up at mornings sore.... Also I hate this part if I eat enough for muscle I get fat if i drop my cals first thing happened I loss muscle loll FML I will try sprinting soon but I have for a long time believe thyroid and sleep very issues I also abused stims a lot too
    seems as though this is a very common problem. I too have this problem. I used stims for around 8 years to lose weight lol.
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    I should have meetings with 2 different doctors, this week. One is a doctor who lifts at my gym and the other is an endocrinologist at a top university. I'm also looking at stuff to do with MC4R gene mutations (look it up; interesting stuff).

    The bottom line is that crushing rT3 and bringing my TSH down to near hyperthyroid numbers did nothing to benefit me, so there is something hindering that from being effective even though the numbers have changed. On top of that, something is creating high prolactin (though apparently it's not a prolactinoma on the pituitary, as the MRI effectively ruled that out) and arguably high cortisol (24 hour came back through the roof, but AM and PM serum draws did not; still have never had 4x saliva done).
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