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  1. This is actually pretty interesting.
    If I read correctly, besides being unable to drop pass a specific weight, you can't get rid of extra fat on your stomach or is it an issue other places too?


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    Quote Originally Posted by jaycuda View Post
    This is actually pretty interesting.
    If I read correctly, besides being unable to drop pass a specific weight, you can't get rid of extra fat on your stomach or is it an issue other places too?
    I've always had trouble losing fat. Around age 8-10 (I can't tell without photos, which I don't have here) I went from being really skinny to chubby. However, it was always dismissed by my parents, despite nothing else really changing and my activity level being very high.

    In high school (junior or senior year), I started running 7-10 miles per night. Even with that, I still carried quite a bit of extra fat. I always dismissed it, though and just assumed I needed to work harder or eat less (even though I was always eating a ridiculously low amount without knowing it).

    After grad school, I started specifically training as a bodybuilder and eating like one, too and I leaned up a bit more, but honestly, before that, I was somehow leaner without really noticing it until I looked back. If you look at my bodyspace account (same name), I think I still have a number of pictures up from back then where you can see my lower back and stomach are much smaller even though I was always sucking in and had extra fat.

    In May of 2010, I'd hit my best (or 2nd best, since I had extra fat on my lower back compared to a few years ago) physique at 208, but after one cheat meal and a week of trying to dial it back down, I was back up to nearly 220. That's when I tried to bulk and from that point, I've basically literally not been able to lose.

    So, it went from being very difficult to, as best as I can tell, impossible.

    Now before hand, I had a little extra fat on my thighs, but not much. It was mostly love handles, stomach and lower back (chest was never as lean either, though). Now, I'm to the point where I basically have rolls in the middle of my back where my lats come in (beyond sickening). I also previously had gotten my arms to show the brachial artery, which has long since gone and I don't even have forearm veins pop when I'm working out (really haven't in over a year).

  4. Quote Originally Posted by MidwestBeast View Post
    I've always had trouble losing fat. Around age 8-10 (I can't tell without photos, which I don't have here) I went from being really skinny to chubby. However, it was always dismissed by my parents, despite nothing else really changing and my activity level being very high.

    In high school (junior or senior year), I started running 7-10 miles per night. Even with that, I still carried quite a bit of extra fat. I always dismissed it, though and just assumed I needed to work harder or eat less (even though I was always eating a ridiculously low amount without knowing it).

    After grad school, I started specifically training as a bodybuilder and eating like one, too and I leaned up a bit more, but honestly, before that, I was somehow leaner without really noticing it until I looked back. If you look at my bodyspace account (same name), I think I still have a number of pictures up from back then where you can see my lower back and stomach are much smaller even though I was always sucking in and had extra fat.

    In May of 2010, I'd hit my best (or 2nd best, since I had extra fat on my lower back compared to a few years ago) physique at 208, but after one cheat meal and a week of trying to dial it back down, I was back up to nearly 220. That's when I tried to bulk and from that point, I've basically literally not been able to lose.

    So, it went from being very difficult to, as best as I can tell, impossible.

    Now before hand, I had a little extra fat on my thighs, but not much. It was mostly love handles, stomach and lower back (chest was never as lean either, though). Now, I'm to the point where I basically have rolls in the middle of my back where my lats come in (beyond sickening). I also previously had gotten my arms to show the brachial artery, which has long since gone and I don't even have forearm veins pop when I'm working out (really haven't in over a year).
    Do you know what body fat % you get stuck at?
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  5. So you have seen my pics is your current build like mine? Or are you hell of a lot leaner and carrying the weight your at.
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    Quote Originally Posted by jaycuda View Post
    Do you know what body fat % you get stuck at?
    I honestly don't know a percentage. I know that when I did a test back before I left for Hawaii (early May), I was right at 20%.

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    You can see all the way back at the end of '08, I was really thin at the waist/lower back even though I didn't have visible abs, yet. October of '09 (~3 months after I started training specifically for bodybuilding)is when I really started being able to show abs when I'd flex them versus just the constant sucking my gut in I'd done my whole life. February of '10 shows being pretty lean, too (again, constantly sucking my gut in, though.

    So I wasn't fat by any means in any of those, but I always had extra fat, but I'd gladly go back to that compared to where I'm at now.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Onlychevy6 View Post
    So you have seen my pics is your current build like mine? Or are you hell of a lot leaner and carrying the weight your at.
    I did not want to show these because of how embarrassed I am by them (seriously beyond sickened). However, it will show you what I've slipped into. The following pictures are from middle of May and then early June. I was still around 240-245 at this point, at least. I'm currently over 260 and I definitely don't have any pictures that would show any skin aside from arms and face, now.

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    I was still working out hard during this time and eating very clean and light (tried IF for at least a month of this stretch, along with paleo diet). In the past 2 months, I haven't worked out as much as I had, which obviously isn't helping me any, but I do still get into the gym at least 3 times a week if not more and I'm still cautious on calories and everything else.

    My gut (though very visible) is still sucked in in those pictures.

  8. Dude you have a good physique in those pics. I know you said your sitting at I think was 270 now? How do you look today?

    Ooops disregard you posted as I was typing
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  9. Ok I know you say your disgusted. But come on now. Even with you carrying the extra weight still not bad. It not like you have the dunlap disease like I do. You look better than I do. I have been posting pics since day one. Talk about gross my god. I am a tubby sob. If I was heavy and looked like you I would be some what happy. I know you are like many and want to get lean and you will. Just have some faith. The man upstairs has a plan for you. Just be patient.
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  10. Hmm, I never had childhood obesity problems. I was on HGH at age 5... the effects seemed to last all the way up to this point

  11. Quote Originally Posted by fueledpassion View Post
    Hmm, I never had childhood obesity problems. I was on HGH at age 5... the effects seemed to last all the way up to this point
    you beast you.... lol

  12. Quote Originally Posted by Onlychevy6 View Post
    Ok I know you say your disgusted. But come on now. Even with you carrying the extra weight still not bad. It not like you have the dunlap disease like I do. You look better than I do. I have been posting pics since day one. Talk about gross my god. I am a tubby sob. If I was heavy and looked like you I would be some what happy. I know you are like many and want to get lean and you will. Just have some faith. The man upstairs has a plan for you. Just be patient.
    Bro,
    We need to rip this mother apart, I use a simple process which gets to the root cause of the problem in as short amount of time. Psycho neuro-endocrine- immunlogy. I specialize this stuff and once I get ceritification in this it will give me more flexiblity with working with Dr because many of them are still in the traditional mind set. They need to step it up or they will be out in the cold really fast. First of all if your dr is on board then we get specialized testing which will help to get to the bottom of this issue with out having to make you suffer any longer. These cases are a dime a dozen I deal with so it will be easy to isolate the potential issue. In these cases you have to look out side traditional medicine because one will most likely no find the answer. This is probably why they have not been able to give you clinical explaination why because you are not digging deep enough but only scratching the surface. THis is where I would dig i and work along with dr to get the proper testing done then analyze the result then present them back to him.

  13. I have so much to say and so little time to say it.

    Be mindful of your PMs. I'll prob be sending one your way.
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    lol in highschool i ran the original halodrol 50 for 8 weeks with clenbuterol and vodka as pct
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    Quote Originally Posted by morry View Post
    I have so much to say and so little time to say it.

    Be mindful of your PMs. I'll prob be sending one your way.
    I'll be on the look out. I appreciate you stopping in, man.
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    So I stumbled onto a thread on sleep apnea on another forum and it was pretty interesting; it was actually a subsection for a specific company founded by a bodybuilder with sleep apnea.

    The video is interesting to watch/listen to at the very least. I'm hoping to get a chance to talk with this guy a bit just to pick his brain.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Onlychevy6 View Post
    Ok I know you say your disgusted. But come on now. Even with you carrying the extra weight still not bad. It not like you have the dunlap disease like I do. You look better than I do. I have been posting pics since day one. Talk about gross my god. I am a tubby sob. If I was heavy and looked like you I would be some what happy. I know you are like many and want to get lean and you will. Just have some faith. The man upstairs has a plan for you. Just be patient.
    I'm significantly worse (20+lbs) from those pictures. That was a time when I'd still actually be seen shirtless, even though I couldn't stand going from abs to that. I realize in the large spectrum that things could be worse. However, when I do the math and remind myself that I've been weight-training (regularly; not off and on) for nearly 12 years, it pisses me off. I know God has a plan and this is a trial for me. I will never lose faith in Him or doubt Him; and he can transcend science. However, that doesn't mean I'm at all pleased with how things are.

    The best analogy I can find for it is how people who claim they are a man trapped in a woman's body or vice versa. I am a bodybuilder trapped in a fat body and I've played by the rules and done everything I was supposed to for all that time; so it's frustrating.

    That being said, this thread isn't a place for pity or a place for me to complain, so I'll get it back to what it's meant for: and that's me (with the help of all the minds on this forum) to find an answer and a resolution to this.

    For one thing, I need to spend more time in prayer because I know I've long lacked in that department.

  17. Quote Originally Posted by MidwestBeast


    The best analogy I can find for it is how people who claim they are a man trapped in a woman's body or vice versa. I am a bodybuilder trapped in a fat body and I've played by the rules and done everything I was supposed to for all that time; so it's frustrating .
    I completely understand. Heck you have seen my before pics. How I let myself go from that to a 300lb fat ass.
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  18. It maybe some food allergy you just got? I found I have been seriously getting worse with time and have to eliminate more and more foods as I go along.

    Last night for example I had some stew my mother inlaw made. It had no flour but I still got a mean reaction to it. My stomach is bloated and I feel that little air space between my belly button and innards expanding.

    I have no idea why. Could be the heavy cream? All I know is eating out at all is a dangerous thing for me.
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  19. Ugh.. Same boat.. Work my ass off eat right n supplement stims. No mirror or scale chsnge!

    Got apt with endocrinologist but not until December 1st! Everyday is a nightmare of killing the gym n kitchen and seeing no results for my work. I feel u..

  20. Quote Originally Posted by chedapalooza
    Ugh.. Same boat.. Work my ass off eat right n supplement stims. No mirror or scale chsnge!

    Got apt with endocrinologist but not until December 1st! Everyday is a nightmare of killing the gym n kitchen and seeing no results for my work. I feel u..
    Your avatar looks pretty sick though!
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  21. Quote Originally Posted by mattrag

    Your avatar looks pretty sick though!
    That was on erase in July it worked awesome.. Now I'm taking it and can't breathe and doing more cardio n look nothing like that! Nothing!

  22. Quote Originally Posted by chedapalooza

    That was on erase in July it worked awesome.. Now I'm taking it and can't breathe and doing more cardio n look nothing like that! Nothing!
    I think our bodies individually have a certain amount of "cut" cycles in us. Like enzyme conversion in our livers and what not. And that basically determines how lean we can stay. After that its like there is a wall that keeps making us fatter.. I'm pretty messed up as well. Probably close to 10g of flour that was in the bowl of stew I ate and today I feel sick, bloated to a point where my normal four pack turned into a beer gut and I have no appetite and feel nausea whenever I see food. Its horrible.
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    I just had my follow up appointment after the sleep study, this morning.

    It turns out, I do not have sleep apnea and apparently, I sleep like a champ. I'll upload the readout from the sleep study when the doctor (out of town, currently) signs off on it to release it to me. I went through all the stages of sleep well, hit my dream sequences and had little leg movement. I was receiving at least 90% oxygen through the entire night (lowest it hit was 89-point-something for a very brief time) and it was upwards of 100% most of the night. Apparently, she said I just snore; no apnea associated with it. And that sleep study was all done from my back; which would be the time I would have the most apnea related problems.

    So, that's good news. No CPAP or anything for me.

    Back to digging.

    I just posted (back on page 1) my most recent thyroid levels from the 20th (a month after my prior numbers that looked perfect). These look a little more like what I was expecting. TSH is up to 2.61 from 0.44. It's still in range, but not where I obviously want it. Where it's at now, is reflective of 25mcg of T3 daily, in contrast to the 100mcg/day I was dosing and cut down to the 25mcg/day dose 2-3 days before the blood draw. So, hopefully the doc will look at upping my T3 dosage and reassessing. I was thinking a low dose of T4 to go along with it, but was hesitant due to possible rT3 conversion, again. Plus, the new results show Free T4 at 0.58, up from 0.5 -- the odd thing, though, is this new read out shows it as "within range" but at the very bottom end, whereas the prior showed normal range to be 0.9-1.8; odd.

    Free T3 is actually up to 3.19 from 2.7 a month ago.




    A co-worker had been looking into things for me and sent me a link on copper-overload. It was just on a forum, but it was enough for me to research it a bit more (particularly after finding out sleep apnea isn't playing any role). The following link proved to be a pretty interesting read:

    http://www.tvernonlac.com/copper-toxicity.html

    Since there had already been mention of heavy metal toxicity, this seems worth looking into. When I picked up my thyroid labs, I left a note to see if I can get the following checked:

    - copper
    - ceruloplasmin
    - sodium
    - potassium
    - magnesium
    - calcium
    - zinc
    - chromium
    - selenium

    I should hopefully hear back in a day or two if he'll sign off on me having those looked into.

    The information in the link I posted about everything copper can do to the adrenal glands in particular was notable.

  24. Well the sleep test was a relief I take it. This whole thing baffles me now. Plenty of oxygen while on your back. They cant really test while on your stomach. I guess we need to go back to step one and look for something more than the obvious. We need to get you figured out.
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