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  1. Stomach sleeper. You my friend have some air passage blockage. With the thick tongue, tonsils. Tossing and turning, restless sleep. They will probably want to shave down your tongue and remove tonsils, atnoids, and possibly uvula. That is just my guess.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Onlychevy6 View Post
    Stomach sleeper. You my friend have some air passage blockage. With the thick tongue, tonsils. Tossing and turning, restless sleep. They will probably want to shave down your tongue and remove tonsils, atnoids, and possibly uvula. That is just my guess.
    Sounds painful...lol

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    Thanks for joining. I appreciate any extra presence I can get in all of this.
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    Okay, so tonight is the sleep study. Still not ecstatic about spending $700 out of pocket, but, since I've been off all supplements but staples for the last several months, I'll probably have made that up, anyway. I rarely go out, don't drink and don't smoke, so all in all, it sucks seeing all the money spent at once, but I can justify it.

    Every once in a while, I start thinking to myself "maybe I'm over-thinking all of this and I really don't have a problem." I think I'm just expecting too much. It's times like that, though, that I look at a transformation log like Rick's or ScottyDoc's and I see what they're able to accomplish in several months. And I realize I've been weight-training for 11+ years and specifically bodybuilding for over 2, now. There is no way in all of that time that I shouldn't have been able to cut up--not when I wasn't drinking in college, was eating healthy, was lifting 4-5 days/week and playing 2-3 hours of basketball 4-5 nights a week. It's when I look at their pictures that I realize that something is definitely wrong with me. Sleep apnea still sounds like there's no way it could cause THIS much trouble, but I'm not an expert in any of this. And I need all the help I can get.

  5. Quote Originally Posted by Onlychevy6 View Post
    Stomach sleeper. You my friend have some air passage blockage. With the thick tongue, tonsils. Tossing and turning, restless sleep. They will probably want to shave down your tongue and remove tonsils, atnoids, and possibly uvula. That is just my guess.
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    MIDWESTBEAST! I happened upon your post while googling Indolplex and read about your struggle with weight, thyroid, etc. I swear it is my history as well as my son who is only 14. Hair loss, weight battle when practically starving, low temperatures, high reverse T 3 labs, fatigue, etc. I would encourage you to look up two things. Heavy metal toxicity which can interfere with the endocrine systems (thyroid and adrenals) as well as "mysterious invisible" chemicals which increase estrogen in the body (xenoestrogens.) Just FYI, blood tests are not accurate for detecting heavy metals except in the case of acute exposure. A urine test WITH PROVOCATION (taking about 500 mg of oral DMSA) which will provoke the metals stored in the body to be excreted in the urine. Without the provocation test, your urine test for heavy metals will probably look "normal" when your body load can be quite high. Genova Diagnostics makes a good heavy metal test, but you need to remember to use DMSA oral dose of about 500 mg for an accurate test. Testing for xenoestrogens can be done also through urine testing but, you probably should save your money and just figure you carry a fairly high load of these toxic chemicals and endocrine disruptors since everything in our world is SURROUNDED in PLASTIC! Herbicides, plastics, pesticides, etc all interfere with the endocrine system. You can only get rid of these types of chemical toxins with a far infared sauna (sadly not cheap) and sweating, avoiding these chemicals as much as possible. Heavy metals can be eliminated with chelation, rectal chelation being the cheapest and safest, although not the fastest. Normally, I never post at these sites, but found your history so similar to my own and heartbreaking, I had to write. I am using chelation and sauna, and slowly improving. Detoxify or Die by Dr. Sherry Rogers MD is a good book to start with for more information.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Sharktopussie View Post
    MIDWESTBEAST! I happened upon your post while googling Indolplex and read about your struggle with weight, thyroid, etc. I swear it is my history as well as my son who is only 14. Hair loss, weight battle when practically starving, low temperatures, high reverse T 3 labs, fatigue, etc. I would encourage you to look up two things. Heavy metal toxicity which can interfere with the endocrine systems (thyroid and adrenals) as well as "mysterious invisible" chemicals which increase estrogen in the body (xenoestrogens.) Just FYI, blood tests are not accurate for detecting heavy metals except in the case of acute exposure. A urine test WITH PROVOCATION (taking about 500 mg of oral DMSA) which will provoke the metals stored in the body to be excreted in the urine. Without the provocation test, your urine test for heavy metals will probably look "normal" when your body load can be quite high. Genova Diagnostics makes a good heavy metal test, but you need to remember to use DMSA oral dose of about 500 mg for an accurate test. Testing for xenoestrogens can be done also through urine testing but, you probably should save your money and just figure you carry a fairly high load of these toxic chemicals and endocrine disruptors since everything in our world is SURROUNDED in PLASTIC! Herbicides, plastics, pesticides, etc all interfere with the endocrine system. You can only get rid of these types of chemical toxins with a far infared sauna (sadly not cheap) and sweating, avoiding these chemicals as much as possible. Heavy metals can be eliminated with chelation, rectal chelation being the cheapest and safest, although not the fastest. Normally, I never post at these sites, but found your history so similar to my own and heartbreaking, I had to write. I am using chelation and sauna, and slowly improving. Detoxify or Die by Dr. Sherry Rogers MD is a good book to start with for more information.
    I can't thank you enough for taking the time to join and post here; it truly means a lot. Both of those things are things I am not at all familiar with, though I have heard of heavy metals. I will do what research I can on all of this, as well. I hope you stick around the site and continue to share anything you can, since my back story (and apparently yours and your son's just has not seemed very common). I'm going in for my sleep study in 4 hours. I'll be sure to update everyone tomorrow.

  8. Quote Originally Posted by MidwestBeast View Post
    I can't thank you enough for taking the time to join and post here; it truly means a lot. Both of those things are things I am not at all familiar with, though I have heard of heavy metals. I will do what research I can on all of this, as well. I hope you stick around the site and continue to share anything you can, since my back story (and apparently yours and your son's just has not seemed very common). I'm going in for my sleep study in 4 hours. I'll be sure to update everyone tomorrow.
    Good luck my friend!!!

    Detoxing is important, as we are in a world that is FILLED with phyto estrogens and toxins... I dont do any but I should... Im looking into more natural stuff like bathes, saunas, etc. to decrease toxins in my body and help the normal funcitons in my body get back to "normal".
    RecoverBro ELITE

  9. Quote Originally Posted by Sharktopussie View Post
    MIDWESTBEAST! I happened upon your post while googling Indolplex and read about your struggle with weight, thyroid, etc. I swear it is my history as well as my son who is only 14. Hair loss, weight battle when practically starving, low temperatures, high reverse T 3 labs, fatigue, etc. I would encourage you to look up two things. Heavy metal toxicity which can interfere with the endocrine systems (thyroid and adrenals) as well as "mysterious invisible" chemicals which increase estrogen in the body (xenoestrogens.) Just FYI, blood tests are not accurate for detecting heavy metals except in the case of acute exposure. A urine test WITH PROVOCATION (taking about 500 mg of oral DMSA) which will provoke the metals stored in the body to be excreted in the urine. Without the provocation test, your urine test for heavy metals will probably look "normal" when your body load can be quite high. Genova Diagnostics makes a good heavy metal test, but you need to remember to use DMSA oral dose of about 500 mg for an accurate test. Testing for xenoestrogens can be done also through urine testing but, you probably should save your money and just figure you carry a fairly high load of these toxic chemicals and endocrine disruptors since everything in our world is SURROUNDED in PLASTIC! Herbicides, plastics, pesticides, etc all interfere with the endocrine system. You can only get rid of these types of chemical toxins with a far infared sauna (sadly not cheap) and sweating, avoiding these chemicals as much as possible. Heavy metals can be eliminated with chelation, rectal chelation being the cheapest and safest, although not the fastest. Normally, I never post at these sites, but found your history so similar to my own and heartbreaking, I had to write. I am using chelation and sauna, and slowly improving. Detoxify or Die by Dr. Sherry Rogers MD is a good book to start with for more information.
    Thanks for posting man, I used to just read but the ppl here are really great and there is very little flamming that happens. Not much trolling either. And when it happens most tend to just ignore it and laugh it off. Good info posted. I feel many of us in the bodybuilding/performance enhancing world lose sight of these more natural ways to clear our metabolic pathways of estrogen clearence, and mineral cascades. I look forward to reading more of what you have to say on anything and everything related to health
    RecoverBro ELITE

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    I dont quite have the same issues you do but am an insomniac, i had a sleep study done when i was 17 and will have another early Jan. I am 27 now. Ive been on at least 3 prescripion sleeping pills since I was 20, before 20 i was just on 1. I somewhat know your pain.
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    Quote Originally Posted by mattrag View Post
    Good luck my friend!!!

    Detoxing is important, as we are in a world that is FILLED with phyto estrogens and toxins... I dont do any but I should... Im looking into more natural stuff like bathes, saunas, etc. to decrease toxins in my body and help the normal funcitons in my body get back to "normal".
    Thank you. I actually looked up the FIR saunas after reading up on the heavy metals for a brief bit. I saw some personal/portable saunas that were rated decent for under $200; which seems like a small price to pay if that in fact is playing a role in all of this. I saw some actual FIR saunas (not rated as high, oddly) for right around $1,000 which doesn't seem bad, either.

    It just seems crazy for me for something like that to cause THIS much trouble (i.e. not being able to lose any weight, but being able to gain tons of it). However, I also thought sleep apnea over a long period of time couldn't either, but perhaps it can (we'll find out soon if it's a factor, at least).

    I don't know this stuff at a molecular level, though, like some guys. I'd love to have people who know more about that to interpret my blood work and symptoms.

    I suppose I worry a lot, too, because every time I think I have it solved, it comes back a resounding slap in the face. Hypothyroidism seemed to be the answer. It wasn't. Reverse T3 Dominance seemed to be the next; it was not, either. Then I was thinking pituitary or adrenals (neither of which I've entirely ruled out with lab work that points in no real strong direction: AM and PM cortisol blood draws in range, 24-hour urine cortisol significantly high, ACTH normal) and now possibly sleep apnea. I feel like I need to constantly search for possible causes because I don't want to waste any more time like this.

  12. Subbed, very interesting. Hope you can figure this out, I'm pulling for you.
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    Quote Originally Posted by gymrat827 View Post
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    I dont quite have the same issues you do but am an insomniac, i had a sleep study done when i was 17 and will have another early Jan. I am 27 now. Ive been on at least 3 prescripion sleeping pills since I was 20, before 20 i was just on 1. I somewhat know your pain.
    That sucks, man. I've actually never had any problems with falling asleep/staying asleep/etc. I've just always known that I snore and I've got other symptoms that point toward apnea. I actually am fine with all of it, I just don't want to weigh 270 pounds unless I look like Jay Cutler lol.

    That sucks you've had to deal with that, though. I really hope your next study provides you with some resolution. Keep me posted, bro.

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    Subbed, very interesting. Hope you can figure this out, I'm pulling for you.
    Thank you for following. It's very much appreciated.

  14. Except Midwest your thyroid reverse T 3 is abnormal, your adrenal test is abnormal. The thyroid and the adrenals are part of the endocrine system that are quite delicate and can be drastically altered by chemicals and metals. The reason it is so confusing is that much of the damage from the chemicals and metals is happening on a cellular level for example altering enzymes or cell membranes which then effects energy and weight gain. This kind of damage is "invisible" but very real. I purchased a sauna for $1000. I would be careful with one that costs $200 as it might not be so great. You do want a FIR with ceramic panels by the way. And detoxing with a sauna is great, but it will take time to "sweat" out toxins. This is not an overnight fix.

    However, if I were you I would start with the Genova Diagnostics heavy metal test.

    If you do purchase this heavy metal test kit as I said before you need to take 500 mg of DMSA before collecting urine otherwise the test will not show you your real body load. If you need some help if you decide to evaluate your metal level I will help you as both my son and myself have done this test. My son's lead levels were high, I had high mercury, cadmium,lead all which interfere with the endocrine system causing fatigue and weight gain.

    Opps, I tried to link you the sauna I bought and the web site for the Heavy Metal Test, but I don't have the rank to do that. Sorry.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Sharktopussie View Post
    Except Midwest your thyroid reverse T 3 is abnormal, your adrenal test is abnormal. The thyroid and the adrenals are part of the endocrine system that are quite delicate and can be drastically altered by chemicals and metals. The reason it is so confusing is that much of the damage from the chemicals and metals is happening on a cellular level for example altering enzymes or cell membranes which then effects energy and weight gain. This kind of damage is "invisible" but very real. I purchased a sauna for $1000. I would be careful with one that costs $200 as it might not be so great. You do want a FIR with ceramic panels by the way. And detoxing with a sauna is great, but it will take time to "sweat" out toxins. This is not an overnight fix.

    However, if I were you I would start with the Genova Diagnostics heavy metal test.

    If you do purchase this heavy metal test kit as I said before you need to take 500 mg of DMSA before collecting urine otherwise the test will not show you your real body load. If you need some help if you decide to evaluate your metal level I will help you as both my son and myself have done this test. My son's lead levels were high, I had high mercury, cadmium,lead all which interfere with the endocrine system causing fatigue and weight gain.

    Opps, I tried to link you the sauna I bought and the web site for the Heavy Metal Test, but I don't have the rank to do that. Sorry.
    All great points and again, I can't thank you enough for weighing in here. I'll look into that test tomorrow.

    If you want to post links before your post count is high enough, you can always paste it and put some spaces in between it, too. I truly hope you'll keep posting/following in here. I can't wait for my transformation lol.

  16. Stop wondering what is going and one get to the core source of the problem I specialize in this stuff and deal with cases dealing with mysterious illness consulting dr's and client around the world. I am sure I can figure this out using much cheaper methods then playing guessing games as I have seen so many health professionals do. HIt me up. I have been through this merry go round many times personally with medical professionals. There is testing if you have an open minded dr willing to work with me might learn a few things which may help others.
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    Quote Originally Posted by The Matrix View Post
    Stop wondering what is going and one get to the core source of the problem I specialize in this stuff and deal with cases dealing with mysterious illness consulting dr's and client around the world. I am sure I can figure this out using much cheaper methods then playing guessing games as I have seen so many health professionals do. HIt me up. I have been through this merry go round many times personally with medical professionals. There is testing if you have an open minded dr willing to work with me might learn a few things which may help others.
    Thank you for dropping in, Matrix. I really appreciate it and obviously have a lot of respect for you. PM coming your way.
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    Okay, so just to give anyone who was interested a clue about the sleep study, this is how my night went:

    I showed up at 8:30 and filled out some paperwork and watched a short video (covering mostly information I was already familiar with). The tech went ahead and got me squared away and hooked up to everything after that. I can't recall the specific number of total electrodes I had on, but I had them on my calves, 2 just south of the collarbone on each side, one near my heart and some on my jawbone, under my eyes and on my neck. The weirdest part about all of it was having her part my hair in who knows how many places to measure, mark and then hook up a couple electrodes. For the boys who bic, you'll have a much easier time lol. She used two different kinds of hair glue/paste (I can't recall the names off the top of my head). It's not bad.

    The process of getting everything hooked up took at least half an hour if not a bit longer. After she hooked me up, I chilled (my choice) for about half an hour in the recliner watching the Cards/Brewers game before she came back and helped me get into the bed. Once in the bed, my finger was clipped into a pulse monitor, too. That was probably the most annoying part out of all of it, because it had to stay on all night and within about 5 minutes it was getting on my nerves because of the pressure. She said I could switch fingers, but I kept it on the same one the whole time to avoid the urge to want to continually change it. I ended up staying up to watch the rest of the game in bed, despite being tired. I should have just went to bed, but with the TV in there, I didn't pass up watching the game (and the Cards lost, which made me wish I would have just went to bed anyway lol). I was nodding off a bit during the 9th, so as soon as the Brewers got their last out, I turned the TV off, took my glasses off and went to bed pretty quickly. The good thing was that I stayed up for the game the night before, too, so I wasn't up any later than I usually would be.

    I woke up several times. They were all very brief, but I blame my recognizing/remembering them on the fact that I was hooked up to everything and couldn't just turn and roll as I please like I normally would. I managed to stay on my back the entire time (which is what they want, to see me at my worst). The tech woke me up and started unhooking me and asked if I was going to go home and go to bed. I said maybe for an hour, but I'm going to shower and go to work. The times I were told were 8:30 to 6:30. After I was unhooked and looked at my phone (which I left on, but on silent for the night), I realized it was just past 5. I have no clue what that was about and that also means they got 5-6 hours of sleep captured instead of the 7 or so I figured they would. That better not play a role in things or I'll be a bit upset.

    She told me to call today (going to shortly) to schedule a follow up, which will probably be in ~2 weeks and then they'll discuss everything from the study.

  19. Random question, do you get cold easier than most people?
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    Quote Originally Posted by jaycuda View Post
    Random question, do you get cold easier than most people?
    Actually, I usually feel warmer (as far as what type of temperature/climate I want to be in). My hands, feet or skin might feel cold, and my body temp is usually around 96.5-97.5, but I love sleeping and being in cooler to cold rooms/places. A lot of times when I sit in my recliner to watch TV in the evening, I'll turn a fan on pointed toward my legs on a low setting. I keep my house at about 70 most of the time. Both of the bedrooms are upstairs, unfortunately, and it's about 5 degrees warmer upstairs than it is downstairs; so it reads 68 downstairs and 73 up there (unless it's winter). I sleep with just a sheet on unless it's really cold.

  21. This is actually pretty interesting.
    If I read correctly, besides being unable to drop pass a specific weight, you can't get rid of extra fat on your stomach or is it an issue other places too?

  22. never give up man good luck
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    Quote Originally Posted by jaycuda View Post
    This is actually pretty interesting.
    If I read correctly, besides being unable to drop pass a specific weight, you can't get rid of extra fat on your stomach or is it an issue other places too?
    I've always had trouble losing fat. Around age 8-10 (I can't tell without photos, which I don't have here) I went from being really skinny to chubby. However, it was always dismissed by my parents, despite nothing else really changing and my activity level being very high.

    In high school (junior or senior year), I started running 7-10 miles per night. Even with that, I still carried quite a bit of extra fat. I always dismissed it, though and just assumed I needed to work harder or eat less (even though I was always eating a ridiculously low amount without knowing it).

    After grad school, I started specifically training as a bodybuilder and eating like one, too and I leaned up a bit more, but honestly, before that, I was somehow leaner without really noticing it until I looked back. If you look at my bodyspace account (same name), I think I still have a number of pictures up from back then where you can see my lower back and stomach are much smaller even though I was always sucking in and had extra fat.

    In May of 2010, I'd hit my best (or 2nd best, since I had extra fat on my lower back compared to a few years ago) physique at 208, but after one cheat meal and a week of trying to dial it back down, I was back up to nearly 220. That's when I tried to bulk and from that point, I've basically literally not been able to lose.

    So, it went from being very difficult to, as best as I can tell, impossible.

    Now before hand, I had a little extra fat on my thighs, but not much. It was mostly love handles, stomach and lower back (chest was never as lean either, though). Now, I'm to the point where I basically have rolls in the middle of my back where my lats come in (beyond sickening). I also previously had gotten my arms to show the brachial artery, which has long since gone and I don't even have forearm veins pop when I'm working out (really haven't in over a year).

  24. Quote Originally Posted by MidwestBeast View Post
    I've always had trouble losing fat. Around age 8-10 (I can't tell without photos, which I don't have here) I went from being really skinny to chubby. However, it was always dismissed by my parents, despite nothing else really changing and my activity level being very high.

    In high school (junior or senior year), I started running 7-10 miles per night. Even with that, I still carried quite a bit of extra fat. I always dismissed it, though and just assumed I needed to work harder or eat less (even though I was always eating a ridiculously low amount without knowing it).

    After grad school, I started specifically training as a bodybuilder and eating like one, too and I leaned up a bit more, but honestly, before that, I was somehow leaner without really noticing it until I looked back. If you look at my bodyspace account (same name), I think I still have a number of pictures up from back then where you can see my lower back and stomach are much smaller even though I was always sucking in and had extra fat.

    In May of 2010, I'd hit my best (or 2nd best, since I had extra fat on my lower back compared to a few years ago) physique at 208, but after one cheat meal and a week of trying to dial it back down, I was back up to nearly 220. That's when I tried to bulk and from that point, I've basically literally not been able to lose.

    So, it went from being very difficult to, as best as I can tell, impossible.

    Now before hand, I had a little extra fat on my thighs, but not much. It was mostly love handles, stomach and lower back (chest was never as lean either, though). Now, I'm to the point where I basically have rolls in the middle of my back where my lats come in (beyond sickening). I also previously had gotten my arms to show the brachial artery, which has long since gone and I don't even have forearm veins pop when I'm working out (really haven't in over a year).
    Do you know what body fat % you get stuck at?

  25. So you have seen my pics is your current build like mine? Or are you hell of a lot leaner and carrying the weight your at.
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    Quote Originally Posted by jaycuda View Post
    Do you know what body fat % you get stuck at?
    I honestly don't know a percentage. I know that when I did a test back before I left for Hawaii (early May), I was right at 20%.

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    You can see all the way back at the end of '08, I was really thin at the waist/lower back even though I didn't have visible abs, yet. October of '09 (~3 months after I started training specifically for bodybuilding)is when I really started being able to show abs when I'd flex them versus just the constant sucking my gut in I'd done my whole life. February of '10 shows being pretty lean, too (again, constantly sucking my gut in, though.

    So I wasn't fat by any means in any of those, but I always had extra fat, but I'd gladly go back to that compared to where I'm at now.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Onlychevy6 View Post
    So you have seen my pics is your current build like mine? Or are you hell of a lot leaner and carrying the weight your at.
    I did not want to show these because of how embarrassed I am by them (seriously beyond sickened). However, it will show you what I've slipped into. The following pictures are from middle of May and then early June. I was still around 240-245 at this point, at least. I'm currently over 260 and I definitely don't have any pictures that would show any skin aside from arms and face, now.

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    I was still working out hard during this time and eating very clean and light (tried IF for at least a month of this stretch, along with paleo diet). In the past 2 months, I haven't worked out as much as I had, which obviously isn't helping me any, but I do still get into the gym at least 3 times a week if not more and I'm still cautious on calories and everything else.

    My gut (though very visible) is still sucked in in those pictures.

  28. Dude you have a good physique in those pics. I know you said your sitting at I think was 270 now? How do you look today?

    Ooops disregard you posted as I was typing
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  29. Ok I know you say your disgusted. But come on now. Even with you carrying the extra weight still not bad. It not like you have the dunlap disease like I do. You look better than I do. I have been posting pics since day one. Talk about gross my god. I am a tubby sob. If I was heavy and looked like you I would be some what happy. I know you are like many and want to get lean and you will. Just have some faith. The man upstairs has a plan for you. Just be patient.
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