- 08-17-2011, 10:22 PM
I recently began cutting, but to me a cut has always seemed more complicated than a bulk, and i need some help
I understand the simple rule of calories in and out, but what i don't get is starvation mode, and if Clen has an effect on it.
I burn around 3500 calories a day before clen, and the last couple days, after adjusting my portions and diet, have taken in around 1300 and feel pretty satisfied at the end of the day. Will maintaining a calorie count that low put me into starvation mode if my protein is still 120+ grams a day? and will the Clen help prevent starvation mode since its supposed to be slightly anabolic(or at least anti-catabolic)?
If not, how can i prevent starvation mode, and still lose weight as quickly as possible, without losing muscle mass?
- 08-20-2011, 09:00 PM
Don't know about Clen but maybe try the Lean Gains diet. It's working for me. Leangains.com
- 08-20-2011, 09:33 PM
By dropping your calories too low you risk dropping your metabolism. A way to keep a eye on it is by your body temp.
08-20-2011, 09:34 PM
LeanGains is def solid.
Expose yourself to your deepest fear; after that, fear has no power, and the fear of freedom shrinks and vanishes. You are free.
08-21-2011, 12:39 PM
Clen isn't anabolic or anti catabolic.
Why "as fast as you can"? Did you gain the fat that fast? No, so what makes it so critical to drop fast, or makes you think you can do it fast and safely ?
08-21-2011, 08:02 PM
most of the time people that want to lose fast, have never lost before and don't know how. once you figure out how to lose fat, carrying a little extra doesn't bother you as much - because you know you can get rid of it when you want.
this is why bodybuilders don't mind getting big and fat . to them, it is a temporary, necessary evil because they know how to get rid of it as easy as they put it on
For me, the action IS the juice.
08-24-2011, 08:32 PM
so i changed my attitude a little, and i do what it takes to push to 2k by the end of the day(still seems low though), and take in like 75% of those calories directly after working out, with a protein shake 1hr before, and 1g Protein per lb of lean mass, with a Re-feed every Sat. Will this help keep my metabolism up, while still maximizing Fat loss?
08-24-2011, 09:24 PM
08-24-2011, 09:34 PM
21, 175, Muscular? probably about 13% BF, some visible abs, but only top 2, 5 days a week, 1 hr a day, and i work a retail Job roughly 5 days a week. I don't really "rest" much otherwise(besides time on the computer), and do small **** in my off time (archery, swimming, etc)
08-24-2011, 09:35 PM
08-24-2011, 09:51 PM
Your maintance is probably around 2600 calories (estimating). What you do is detail and keep track of what your eating and monitor your weight on a weekly basis. After you find your calorie range where you maintenance is at you subtract around 500 calories and again monitor your progress. On days you dont lift you dont need as much calories vs days you are more active. Its all a big math problem. As for your macros you can do 1g protein x bodyweight and .5g fat x bodyweight and the rest you can fill with whatever really. Most peple find they are sensitive to carbs so like to cut back somewhat.. if that is the case just add more fat and/or protein in. As long as you are in a calorie deficit you will loose weight.
Hope that helps you out some..
If you want some reading material check out www.scivationbooks.com the american diet is a pretty solid outline and easy to do.
08-25-2011, 11:30 PM
so are the calculators that you find in an app basically just crap? they always have me listed between 3.3 and 3.7k per day...
08-26-2011, 12:51 AM
08-26-2011, 06:03 AM
they are just guidelines, there is easily a +/- 15% either way on them, and unless you are weighing and measuing everything that goes into your mouth, your variation on what you think you are eating is as large too.
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