POLL -- CARDIO ON EMPTY STOMACH IN MORNING
04-08-2007 12:08 PM
Hi I entered a weightloss contest and am looking for information on how to quickly lose body weight in the next 5 weeks. HELP!!
I entered the contest last week at 301lbs and need to lose atleast 30lbs before May 7th!
04-10-2007 11:34 PM
Sorry for the absence. Great info here, I am definitely a believer in coffee and caffein both. What mentioned earlier w/ respect to glucose metabolism (normally a good thing) is that the idea of AM cardio is that you try to minimize glucose metabolism. Your body is in a state that is ideal for burning fat 1st thing (high FFA concentrations in the blood). I feel that stimulants and glucose metabolism up regulation (of which it appears that coffee is both)would be counter productive for this very specific type of low intensity work out designed to rely heavily on FFA. Hopefully my thoughts came across a little more clearly here.
Also the quoted article talks alot about glucose absorption in the gut, not really of much importance when exercising on an empty stomach
again thanks for the thoughts, it is always good to try and get a deeper understanding - I know I have plenty of room for improvement here.
[as a disclaimer this I am not a nutrition expert - just someone who finds it very interesting, as well as pertinent]
Originally Posted by THETEST
04-11-2007 07:03 AM
Yes great info here....absolutely! I am going to try and do cardio in the morning atleast 4 times a week, then do another hour after work.
Originally Posted by 8pack
Im going to also try the cabbage diet...has anyone ever heard of this diet and does it really work!
Basically what it is, is a soup containing cabbage and other veggies including brown rice and you eat this for 7 days and as much as you want!!
Ill try it and keep everyone posted! I will start tomorrow4/12/07
04-30-2007 09:38 AM
I have tried both low intensity and running sprints in the morning. If you are trying to do a recomp i would say go with the low intensity cardio so that it doesnt interfere with your weight training. However, if you want to melt fat off fast, sprints in the am on an empty stomach do the trick. Combine this with full body workouts 3x a week ala hst, you will be one ripped dude.
04-30-2007 07:22 PM
Hey SureShot thanks for the tip, much appreciated!!
Originally Posted by SureShot
Yeah I have been doing the AM cardio and it has helped me drastically!!
What supplement is out there for appetite control??
05-03-2007 09:18 AM
Just an update from last fall, I tried the AM HIIT thing out, but I didn't lose weight like i thought i would. I lost more. Much more. I'm a life long convert now
05-23-2007 10:47 AM
Why stick to one or the other? I've been doing intervals on the ellipticle for 20 minutes followed by another 20 minutes of heavy bag work/ab work at lower intensity. This is never done while fasting though. I take 10g Bcaa's/24g Super carb with 2g Citmal pre, and then another of these minus the supercarb during. I wait about 30 minutes after training for my post workout shake (this contains no carbs). I can only do AM cardio once a week, so the other two sessions are done after work, with the same nutritional protocol minus the supercarb altogether. Results have been very good over the past few months of this. I'm very close to 10% BF, down from about 16%. This, with 3 full body lifting sessions a week (hybrid HST) has allowed me to keep virtually all my LBM too.
05-24-2007 12:46 AM
I've just never gotten into morning fasted cardio...Upset my stomach..I need to feed the machine before I crank up the heart rate..
05-24-2007 07:42 AM
That sounds like its working very well.
Originally Posted by LT*
I just started like two months ago at 301.2lbs with the am cardio consisting of either biking or elyptical training and evening light workouts or road cycling and am at 273lbs.
My goal is to be at 200lbs within another 6 months.
Also were doing a weght loss comptetion here at work and the pot is $1400 and I'll need to weigh 240lbs by June 13th but I dont think i'll make it.
Any good fat burners/ appetite control supplements out there that work well????
06-02-2007 04:19 PM
Good discussion and the subject of fasted versus fed cardio, as well as low-intensity versus HIIT cardio has been hotly debated.
I do believe there's a place for most of it (although I do question the merits of fasted cardio...)
At any rate, here are a couple great articles that are worth a read before you decide on anything.
Myths Under the Microscope 1: The Low Intensity Fat Burning Zone
Myths Under the Microscope 2: False Hopes for Fasted Cardio
06-08-2007 06:45 AM
Although I picked empty stomach in the poll, I have to question whether I can call it empty with all the supplements
06-08-2007 06:58 AM
Originally Posted by EasyEJL
LOL, You got a point there!!!
06-14-2007 06:15 AM
Dang, I hadn't thought of that, it would be great hung in my garage, or maybe one of the ones on a stand vs ceiling hung. I would enjoy the heck out of that, and keeping it in the garage it would be hot all the freakin time (I'm in Florida) so sweating it up from the first minute.
Originally Posted by Nutz
06-14-2007 10:37 PM
The heavy bag is awesome but it will wear you out especially w/footwork
07-13-2007 05:31 PM
this debate will probably go on forever but here are some things i have tried: If you want to burn fat faster to get ripped up=sprints/HIIT, if you want to maintain maximum muscle mass, while losing fat, why not do 30min low intensity after your resistance training? I have done both, and i was definitely more muscular doing low intensity after resistance training, but it took me 10 weeks to get to single digit bodyfat from about 12-13%. When i did HIIT, or just did full body workouts with minimal rest between sets (only rest being unloading and loading whatever piece of equipment i was using) i ripped up faster, maintained strength, but seemed to have a different, more athletic look, was slightly thinner looking in clothes, and it only took about 7 weeks.
07-17-2007 02:02 PM
I tried an AM Fasted Brisk Walk today for the first time and as hard as it was to wake up, it was definitely well worth it. As soon as I got outside I just felt so much more energized. All day so far I have had a great amount of energy, I haven't nodded off once while at work today!!! lol
I think I might start the morning Fasted Brisk walk every day and on Tues/Thurs/Sat do a Morning fasted low intensity cardio and after work go to the gym for a moderate intensity cardio. Is this a smart idea??
07-21-2007 01:03 AM
Take some wraath on an empty stomach!!!
07-26-2007 08:43 AM
Theres 1 flaw to that study, blood samples were taken before the workout, not before the protein.
Originally Posted by WSUstudent
Protein significantly increases GH levels by itself.
08-19-2007 09:25 PM
The problem with anecdotal evidence is that everyone is different. I see some people recommending that AM fasted cardio sprints are superior to low intensity cardio. Maybe it is for that person, or maybe they'd lose fat is they just thought about it with their blessed metabolism.
I would do AM cardio, the ***** that it is, but I'm just not sure it's going to be effective. Basically, when I wake up and do cardio, I don't feel that great afterwards, and it leaves me less likely to productively lift or do more cardio later on. If I sleep in goto work, then I can do everything optimally.
I also question if Leuceine should be used solo instead of all 3 BCAA's. I guess it depends on how serious you are about weight loss.
Some people seem to be carb tolerant, and others are not. I also wonder if this has to do with the insulin spike from eating carbs. Some have a huge spike, and others don't which is why they can handle it.
So many things to ponder...
08-20-2007 02:53 PM
Definitely AM on an empty stomach!
Not only is it easier to run on an empty stomach, doing cardio in the AM is great for those of us who will be reluctant to do it later in the day. I hate cardio, so I like to get it over with first thing. If you MUST have something to eat beforehand, I would suggest just a protein shake.
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