Having a breakdown - Can I gain back any muscle on CKD

[justreading]

Guys my life is in the ****ter since I cought swine flu.

In 1.5 weeks I have lost 6 pounds - that might not sound like much to some of you but I was 5 pounds higher before I started dieting so I have gone from 217 to 206. I have to fight for every friggin pound and my cycle results are all but 100% lost. To make it even better I thought I was getting better so I am 2 days into a keto diet and still sick.

My question is:

Is there ANY chance muscle memory will save me and I will get any of my muscle back despite the diet?

I am so depressed about this that I don't know how to deal with it.

[tyler4]

While I havent gotten "larger" while on my CKD diet, I am getting stronger week by week. That is for sure. So yes, I believe if done correctly, strength can increase on a CKD.

[justreading]

I am just having a total breakdown - all my muscle from my cycle is gone from getting sick.

I really dont know what to do with myself - im just going to bget ****ed up beyond recognition till i figure this out

[tyler4]

No need to do that bro, it will just make things worse. It's just muscle..it will come back.

[justreading]

No need to do that bro, it will just make things worse. It's just muscle..it will come back.

I really dont know if it will... I am not coming off this diet after suffereing through the first couple days which are the worst and on this diet I dont think I can gain in back.

Really having a breakdown, my entire year is ruined and i did a heavy cycle to get to where I was going to be and now it was a total waste

[Rhyno]

Setbacks are always rough; hang in there man.

From my experience, you can definately put on muscle using CKD. You're weight might not change since, at least for me, it tends to be a recomp oriented diet. I like using overfeeding during the carb days with calorie deficits during the remaining days. I like to split them up carbing up on Tuesday's and Saturdays with the day after each being my lowest calorie day.

If you want to go for an all-out bulk, I've seen a couple logs where folks used CKD for bulking with great sucess and minimal fat gain. The only two that I can remember atm, are one by Pmiller and another by Rugger (who used it on a cycle).

[soontobbeast]

just eat some cookies and icecream and it will all be ok. i'm telling you, it works.

[SilentBob187]

just eat some cookies and icecream and it will all be ok. i'm telling you, it works.

Kinda defeats the whole CKD stipulation....

[youngandfree]

Are you still able to eat your required calories? Just stay on your diet and get better. Don't go off the deep end. Does your livelyhood depend on you being a certain size and body compostion? If not, then it's not the end of the world. I know it sucks spending a bunch of money on supps, and planning out your year, but crap happens. I was going to really cut up this summer until August, then add back a few pounds, and be shredded for a cruise first part of December. On May 5, which was tuesday, I got into an argument with my boss while I was out of town for work, and he was going to dock me about $1000 of planned overtime for the rest of the week. I was livid since I was 4 hours from home for 2 weeks. I did like everyother male I have ever talked to and punched the nearest thing in a fit of rage. It was either masonry walls or metal door, so I picked the door. 1 Broken hand. I went home early, and it cost me about $700 in lost wages for the week. 6 weeks later, still in a cast, doing mediocre workouts to try to maintain as much as possible and slowly leaning out. Now my setback was self-induced and yours wasn't. I deserved mine and you didn't. But at the end of the day, if you have your health and you are alive, be thankfull. You are still young, you can bounce back. Be thankfull you aren't one of the statistics that didn't survive the swine flu.

[justreading]

I can function... I cant go out in public, I am close to quiting my job basically I am having a breakdown...

I cant even get into ketosis - everything is a failure

[youngandfree]

Why is this the end of the world? Why is this worth quitting your job over? Why do you think you can't even get into ketosis?

Obviuosly, you aren't a failure, look at your avatar pic. You aren't the only person to have a setback, and won't be the last. But it aint worth going off the deep end over. Get your head on straight, and do what you can to minimize the damage. Stressing so much is not good when your body is already stressed fighting the virus. Getting f***ed up beyond all recognition will wreck your progress even more. There is only 2 things you can control, your actions and your attitude. Period. Get your attitude right and take necessary actions to minimize the weight loss, and you will be better before you know it. You need to take the emotion out of the picture and use your head. Anytime a person acts on emotion to make a big decision, they usually screw it up, because they don't really evaluate it.

You are a grown man, pull up your panties and act like one.

[justreading]

Should I just give up on ketosis?

Its been 3 days and I dont even have trace plus all the muscle I lost.

I really need to diet HARD but maybe I can do 3 higher carb days and 4 low carb days and more cardio... I dont know keto use to work so well but i look so horrible right now

[youngandfree]

Just because you don't have trace on a ketostick doesn't mean you aren't in ketosis. There are plenty who don't show up on those things. Slow down and relax man, your responses don't indicate that you even recognize what people are telling you. You asked for some help, why not slow down and process what has been given. If you aren't lifting, your muscles won't grow anyway. So relax and get rid of the flu and then stay on your game plan.

[SilentBob187]

Ketostix are a waste of money. I say this in hindsight

Stick with it bro. It sounds like you're craving some carbs hardcore man. Maybe get some 5-htp or something else to help with mood.

[justreading]

Ketostix are a waste of money. I say this in hindsight

Stick with it bro. It sounds like you're craving some carbs hardcore man. Maybe get some 5-htp or something else to help with mood.

NO its that ALL my muscle is gone - really all of it that i put on from my cycle is 100% gone. Ive never seen anything like it in my life

[youngandfree]

Easy come easy go, right. You are still 206, you aren't withering away. Are you eating enough? If not, then quit whining and keep eating.

[justreading]

Easy come easy go, right. You are still 206, you aren't withering away. Are you eating enough? If not, then quit whining and keep eating.

11 pounds lost, 6 of it in 3-4 days isnt withering?

[youngandfree]

You still haven't answered the question of are you eating enough.

[justreading]

You still haven't answered the question of are you eating enough.

on keto you friggin cant - i think im gonna quit. 150g protein is for a 75 pound anorexic woman

[youngandfree]

how about get you head out of your ass and use some brain cells. You obviously aren't eating enough calories, which is why you are losing. Keto diet is still calorie dependant, not just macro. Eat more protein. how many calories were you eating before? you still need that amount. adjust the macros to equal at least 1 gram of protein per pound. The ratio of fat CALORIES to Protein CALORIES should be 1.5/1. Not just grams of fat and protein being 1.5/1.

Sorry for sounding harsh, just stop and think.